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UCC president racks up €75,000 in expenses over two years

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    #32
    Byron85
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    Nova_era wrote: »
    The US is but a minor player on the world stage, as opposed to Russia, which will one day rule the world.....again


    FYP.


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    #33
    PhatPiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    maglite wrote: »
    Discouraging to see so called University students cant read an article.

    "Despite business class being the preferred mode of international transportation for Dr Murphy and his wife, a spokesman for the university insisted the flights for Mrs Murphy were not paid for by the Irish taxpayer."

    Allowing for a possible play on words looks like Mrs Murphy was not paid for. Are we seriously suggesting we get the head of the University to fly coach? As for the meals, How many people, did he entertain a number of business people who are now interested in employing US.

    The university is a business. As such their are expenses. Would you expect the CEO of a multi million dollar business to fly coach transatlantic, rent a Nissan Micra and stay in a Travel Lodge.

    What you need to do is look at Value for money, Maybe Dr. Murphy procured a million euro in funding on one of this trips

    €1,000,000 -75,000 = +€ 925,000,, I'd view that as worthwhile. lets be mildly academic about this and not a bunch of drunkards shouting in the streets.

    Any source for that? I'd like to know the results too before hanging him.

    Not paid for by the taxpayer but by donations and profits but if there is a further hole in the university revenues say €75K who fills that?

    Like you say it could be money well spent but a bit of transparency would be nice


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    #34
    Nova_era
    Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Nova_era


    T.W.H Byron wrote: »
    FYP.

    Nicely done.

    Now that Mr. Obama has pushed forwards for the birth of the United Socialist States of America (USSA), Mr. Putin will be able to make the next move, and move into Alaska.


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    #35
    maglite
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    PhatPiggins wrote: »
    Maglite wrote:
    Maybe Dr. Murphy procured a million euro in funding on one of this trips
    Any source for that?

    You want a source for my speculation?



    Maglite, Mr. (2010, March 21). Ucc president racks up €75000 in expenses over two years.
    Retrieved March 23, 2010, from Boards.ie UCC forum:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055860973


    The key word is MAYBE,


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    #36
    Mario007
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    cut the man some slack.

    37 500 euro in expenses each year is grand considering where he's been, who's he met and what he has done for the college. he has attracted investment into ucc, new research places, new courses and MAs with highly-qualified lecturers and the university is moving up the rankings. all that in 2 years he's had the job and his plans for next 4 years are great outlines how to get UCC to be No2 in ireland after trinity again.


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    #37
    maglite
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    ReacherCreature wrote: »
    That's what I'm saying is ridiculous.
    Woops sorry...
    Speculation? The expenses were released and I think it was the Indpendent released it? Surely that's a valid enough source?

    Mr Twain has said it well "There are lies, damned lies and statistics" numbers like these are a means to an end. I'm not disputing the validity of the numbers just the manner in which they are presented. I do not know enough to cast judgment.


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    #38
    PhatPiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    maglite wrote: »
    You want a source for my speculation?



    Maglite, Mr. (2010, March 21). Ucc president racks up €75000 in expenses over two years.
    Retrieved March 23, 2010, from Boards.ie UCC forum:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055860973


    The key word is MAYBE,

    Thanks for that, you should try sugar in your coffee.


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    #39
    Rebel20
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    The SU rack up some fairly hefty expenses too but we don't hear any complaining about that do we???


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    #40
    D'Agger
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    maglite wrote: »

    The university is a business. As such their are expenses. Would you expect the CEO of a multi million dollar business to fly coach transatlantic, rent a Nissan Micra and stay in a Travel Lodge.

    Google Warren Buffet tbh - I expect the CEO of a multi million dollar business that's seriously in debt to cut costs - including his own.

    That said from reading the thread fully I can see he's gotten us investment and is trying to improve UCC like any other president would - the problem for me isn't how he's performing in his role - I can see he's done good things for UCC but imo there are ways of cutting his costs and he should be exploring them, why not rent a Nissan Micra or fly coach? It's got 4 wheels and and engine just like any other car, Warren Buffet as I've mentioned used to take the subway to Goldman Sacchs whilst every other CEO in the company was chauffer driven - he isn't going to lose investment by looking like he's trying to save money, if anything he's going to show investors that their money won't be spent frivilously, rather used wisely imo - you may not necessarily agree with that but it's how I'd go about things and tbh I think if he went about things this way he'd be getting positive press instead of articles looking to burn him at the stake


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    #41
    PhatPiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    Rebel20 wrote: »
    The SU rack up some fairly hefty expenses too but we don't hear any complaining about that do we???

    Source?

    Or is this just speculation?


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    #42
    Byron85
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    PhatPiggins wrote: »
    Source?

    Or is this just speculation?


    I can't remember how much money exactly the S.U get every year, but it is by no means a small amount. Also the S.U President gets a tidy wage too.


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    #43
    ReacherCreature
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    Rebel20 wrote: »
    The SU rack up some fairly hefty expenses too but we don't hear any complaining about that do we???

    Eh no because you haven't enclosed a link/report/article of the SU's expenses so we can't even begin to comment. Papa_Lazarou left a link about the President and thus we're 'complaining' about it. We can't discuss the Student Union's expenses because we've nothing to discuss. Show some proof and I'll happily complain. :pac:


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    #44
    samf
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    Rebel20 wrote: »
    The SU rack up some fairly hefty expenses too but we don't hear any complaining about that do we???

    Getting banned from one UCC Forum clearly wasnt enough for you I see?


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    #45
    samf
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    T.W.H Byron wrote: »
    Also the S.U President gets a tidy wage too.
    If by tidy wage you mean the minimum wage, then yes you're right.


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    #46
    Eliot Rosewater
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    T.W.H Byron wrote: »
    I can't remember how much money exactly the S.U get every year, but it is by no means a small amount.

    Is it not €100 per student or something similar, taken out of the reg fee? Which would mean €1.7 million altogether.

    I may be am completely wrong (see below) :)


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    #47
    samf
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭samf


    €1.7 million?? Haha I wish. Its more around the 400k mark unfortunately. Anyone interested in the unions finances feel free to attend class council tonight at 7pm in boole 3, there'll be a breakdown of finances so far this year for the union.


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    #48
    Byron85
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    samf wrote: »
    If by tidy wage you mean the minimum wage, then yes you're right.

    €400 a week (I think) for being S.U President? Boo hoo. :rolleyes:


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    #49
    Rebel20
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    samf wrote: »
    Getting banned from one UCC Forum clearly wasnt enough for you I see?

    The reason I was banned is because SU hacks such as yourself didn't want me exposing your own tidy perks. Disgraceful to be honest. The amount of money the SU spend every year is frightening. And don't talk to me about the Guild. It must be the only part of the college that makes a profit. Well besides the SU...


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    #50
    samf
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭samf


    I realise this isnt appropriate discussion for this thread as its totally off topic, but just so people know the above user was banned this week from the UCC forum for creating double accounts, blatantly refusing to follow any rules on the boards, and insulting practically every user.

    He also just PM'd me saying:
    Try banning me from this. I'll cause you even more trouble now. No matter how many times you try, you won't get rid of me. Get used to it.

    Welcome to boards.ie Rebel20.


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    #51
    Byron85
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    samf wrote: »
    I realise this isnt appropriate discussion for this thread as its totally off topic, but just so people know the above user was banned this week from the UCC forum for creating double accounts, blatantly refusing to follow any rules on the boards, and insulting practically every user.

    He also just PM'd me saying:


    Welcome to boards.ie Rebel20.


    Yikes. :confused:


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    #52
    Rebel20
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Rebel20


    samf wrote: »
    I realise this isnt appropriate discussion for this thread as its totally off topic, but just so people know the above user was banned this week from the UCC forum for creating double accounts, blatantly refusing to follow any rules on the boards, and insulting practically every user.

    He also just PM'd me saying:


    Welcome to boards.ie Rebel20.


    Yes because they decided that it against the rules to raise SU and Guild finances. How professional.


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    #53
    BigDaddyCan
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭BigDaddyCan


    Rebel20 wrote: »
    Yes because they decided that it against the rules to raise SU and Guild finances. How professional.

    are you involved in the guild or the SU???


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    #54
    Rebel20
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Rebel20


    BigDaddyCan wrote: »
    are you involved in the guild or the SU???

    No. I did attempt to run for Irish Officer but the SU ran a campaign against me and totally devalued my campaign. I have a friend who was on the Guild.


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    #55
    KnifeWRENCH
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    Rebel20, I've seen enough of your **** on FUCC to know you have nothing positive whatsoever to contribute here. Also, that PM was totally unacceptable.
    Try banning me from this.
    He can't. But I can.
    You won't be posting here again. But enjoy the rest of boards.ie!


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    #56
    BigDaddyCan
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭BigDaddyCan


    Rebel20 wrote: »
    No. I did attempt to run for Irish Officer but the SU ran a campaign against me and totally devalued my campaign. I have a friend who was on the Guild.

    so basically because you weren't deemed fit to run for a position on the SU exec you feel that you have the right to (inacuratly) slander them, and you had a friend involved in the guild, wow you might as well be the official UCC accountant!


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    #57
    susy65
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    Hey guys leave the poor boy alone. Sure he has nothing else to do...


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    #58
    KnifeWRENCH
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    Rereg account already? There's efficiency for you....


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    #59
    lostintransit
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    Rebel20 wrote: »
    No. I did attempt to run for Irish Officer but the SU ran a campaign against me and totally devalued my campaign. I have a friend who was on the Guild.


    Two things:
    1- Nobody ran a campaign against you to run for Irish Officer, you know that. If you wanted to run you could have run if you really wanted to. Proof of this "campaign" against you doesn't exist.

    2. Wow giving out about the Guild. Wonder how many Guild-funded things you did as part of the society you were in.

    Grow up stop causing drama wherever you go!


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    #60
    SU_Conspiracy
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    Rebel20 wrote: »
    The reason I was banned is because SU hacks such as yourself didn't want me exposing your own tidy perks. Disgraceful to be honest. The amount of money the SU spend every year is frightening. And don't talk to me about the Guild. It must be the only part of the college that makes a profit. Well besides the SU...

    He knew too much!
    He had uncovered secrets that must remain hidden!
    He knew too much about all the dead hookers!

    Fortunately our spies are everywhere!

    Operatives posing as mild mannered and diligent mods have been working around the clock to prevent him from spreading the word about our powerful organisation.
    Our extensive and organised campaigns have been enough to keep him out of power... so far!


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    #61
    BigDaddyCan
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭BigDaddyCan


    SU_Conspiracy wrote: »
    He knew too much!
    He had uncovered secrets that must remain hidden!
    He knew too much about all the dead hookers!

    Fortunately our spies are everywhere!

    Operatives posing as mild mannered and diligent mods have been working around the clock to prevent him from spreading the word about our powerful organisation.
    Our extensive and organised campaigns have been enough to keep him out of power... so far!

    I love all of your work


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