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[Event] Lost Sheep Middle Distance Champs

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Best of luck everyone. Have a great days racing! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭goalscoringhero


    Izoard wrote: »
    So, who's going to make the start line?

    (Very) brief review of the thread shows;

    mossym
    BTH
    PWEI
    cart man
    trinewbie
    Trig 1
    catweazle
    Izoard
    Fazz
    Podge83
    Bennymul
    bryangiggsy

    Who else?

    Me too - forecast couldn't be better, fingers crossed it stays like this - makes for a nice tailwind into Glengarriff.
    Finish in top half would be sweet and based on last years finishing times I just should be able to pull this off, but given it's NC I'll probably get my a$$ handed to me.
    Looking forward to this now, best of luck everyone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 stanleyb


    Me too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    Best of luck everyone! Should be great craic in transition.. 'Are you on boards? How about yourself, are you on boards? Where are all the boardsies?!'

    Should have a boards section in the racks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    I hope the sheep are found and everyone has a great day!!! Whoop whoop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    If they get anything like the weather we got in Galway last night it could be a weekend of this...

    7648500128_c5a28af8f1_z.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Trig1


    any1 down there yet, whats weather like, horrible here in Tipp, blowing a gale and pi$$ing out.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Trig1 wrote: »
    any1 down there yet, whats weather like, horrible here in Tipp, blowing a gale and pi$$ing out.

    wind has died down a lot but it's a fairly heavy constant drizzle. roads are going to be wet and slippy tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    AKW wrote: »
    If they get anything like the weather we got in Galway last night it could be a weeked of this...

    7648500128_c5a28af8f1_z.jpg

    You've really gone native.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    tunney wrote: »
    You've really gone native.

    Please note I did not take that photo of a worried wet sheep!!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    AKW wrote: »
    Please note I did not take that photo of a worried wet sheep!!

    you just read them for the articles right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Podge83


    mossym wrote: »
    wind has died down a lot but it's a fairly heavy constant drizzle. roads are going to be wet and slippy tomorrow.

    It mightn't be too bad. Due to dry up later. that breeze should dry the roads. Tomorrow still looks ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Podge83


    I was going to give out about a few aspects of this race but decided to write a report instead:

    The Dead Frog

    This is what I got up to yesterday: Lost Sheep national middle distance championship, Kenmare

    Well the Triathlon season is over for me for this year – my first full season and I wanted to go out in style. The pinnacle of the season was the trip to my ancestral county of Kerry for the toughest race on the circuit.

    I arrived at the Bed & Breakfast on Friday afternoon and that Kerry trait of stuffing as much food into your guests as possible was still alive and well to bring back memories of my Grandmothers meals. “Do you want more”, “no thanks Gran” and hey ho another mountain lands on the plate. I could never understand why she asked, as the question was rhetorical. The hospitality however in my Kenmare bolthole was second to none.

    Another trait and memory of my childhood trips to the Kingdom was the black mountains, mist, cloud and rain that magically appeared as you crossed the county boundary – yup all were still there.

    Race day started at 5.15 when my alarm rudely woke me up – more reminded me to get up as I was awake after a substantially sleepless night. The dreaded cramp had hit in the night also and set my mind racing – how can I face the long swim with cramp before I even started. The “Fear an Ti” wouldn’t have been disappointed with the size of the bowl of porridge I whipped up.

    Anyway, got the bike and the pointy helmet ready and headed off like a cavalier at dawn on my horse picking up comrades from the side roads (or are they all enemies) as we headed to the pier. How is that on the morning of a race an hour lasts for a minute? It was 7.30 AM and time for the dip sooner than it should have been.

    Race strategy – Swim easy and don’t get cramp – and the rest will look after itself. I knew I had done the Bike work and the run – sure I’m a veritable Haile Gebrselassie – we even share the same birthday.

    When setting up transition I place a pair of socks beside my runners – Will I wear them? – I dunno but probably not as I’m hard. I knew in my heart that 10k without socks in my speedy shoes was ok, but a half marathon – I wasn’t sure! On with the wetsuit and the green hat provided by the organizers.

    Into the water and 400 or so of us gathered in the bay like a big pot of peas about to come to the boil. The yellow buoys in the distance like two stray pieces of corn were the target. Adverse to Kerry tradition the weather looked good and I settled into the race. Purposely keeping wide to avoid the washing machine I got into my easy pace and with the repetitive thought of stroke, breath, stroke, breath.

    Got to the first buoy without cramp and the first fence was flown. Turn right, right again and there was the white house on the pier in the distance – it was small and far away. However, it slowly got bigger and no sign of cramp. I hadn’t got through a race all year over sprint distance without a cramp attack and here I was in the longest of all and no cramp – could I get through without the dreaded “Charley Horse” – seemingly so and the slipway bordered by the “Vodafone” tubes arrived – out of the water. I knew I was slow but the first goal was achieved – 35 mins and apparently at that stage in 206th place – just as well I didn’t realise this at the time – I thought I had swam good enough. The main objective was to get out of the water in one piece, and that was achieved.

    Off to collect the shiny bike and pointy helmet. My race now really starts!! I knew the cycle course was famous for its 4 climbs - the two small ones and two big ones (the Healy and Caha passes) lay ahead. Felt great on the bike and started to pass people. The first of the smaller climbs came and went and on the descent I was passed by a few – obviously still need to work on the descents – is it worth it? Those boys were going fast!! Anyway, turn left and we’re climbing again before there was time to think - I overtook the few who passed me on the descent with interest and continued passing people on the way to the top – is that it? I wanted more!! – I had prepared myself for this cycle well. This descent had more twists and turns than a soap plot - they call it “technical”. On each hairpin it seemed that someone passed me – those boys were still going fast. Mind you, less passed me than I had earlier passed. Around another bend and there was a fella on the side of the road not looking good being tended to – did he take that bend too fast? - must find out afterwards how he was - does anyone know?

    Nice straight to Glengarriff and a bit of time trialing – isn’t this what Tri Cycling is supposed to be? Left again in Glengarriff and climbing again – the Caha pass. (don’t know where the other smaller climb went!!).

    This climb was long but not too steep and yes, passing people again – felt great still. Started the long descent to transition. On this descent I held my position and when it flattened out I knew that the last stretch was upon me.

    Average speed on the Garmin strapped to the handlebars - my improvised bike computer - told me that I was averaging about 32 kph – I was very happy with that on this course!

    Back to transition – how many did I pass? I’ll find out after. Rack the bike, look at the socks – nah, I’m hard – stick on the shoes and off I go. I’m running now – I’m on home territory. Sure enough I was passing people again and started thinking about my category position – this was the National Championships after all! Caught up with Aileen Flynn. who was eventually to win the race, but she wasn’t letting me past! I knew now I was getting to the business end. At this stage I still felt good and we ran together passing each other and vice versa.

    This run course was beginning to get tough and my toes were beginning to give out. The hills were tough and eventually Aileen pulled away – she was running good. Got to the feeding station at 15k – Aileen had one last refuel and took off like she was starting a 5k run fresh – impressive stuff. Then the next hill appeared in front of me – it was a tough bastard and I didn’t enjoy it!

    After another 5k that seemed like 50 miles I got to the finish. I lost 3 and a half minutes in those last 5k to flying Aileen.

    Checked the results – missed out on category bronze by 45 secs. I had borrowed too much in the swim and spent the last few shillings on the run! Then I started thinking - what if I wasn't worrying about cramp? – What if I could descend like those fast fellas? – What happened me towards the end of the run? – even as the last leg of a Triathlon I know I was capable of faster than 1.32 – I need to work on that. Then realized – jaysus, I had finished the Lost Sheep in 4.49 – that was a good time! Inspection of my feet and the big red blisters on every toe told another tale. Note to self – socks for distances above 10k.

    In a new category next year but it wont get any easier!

    Nearly 50 and still learning.

    Happy overall with the race with that and now I suppose I’m Half an Ironman – maybe the tinman? – Wasn’t he the fella with no heart?

    I didn’t find the Lost Sheep, but I did come across a dead frog lying in the road somewhere in the mountains.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    If the tri does not work out you can fall back on writing, very witty report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    Great read podge83 felt like the journey was shared. Well done on a solid race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Thats a very entertaining report Podge83. Well done on your overall season, some great results from you this past year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    No Lost Sheep were found!!??? Well that blows.

    Nice report Podge, and very well done on the race!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 jamescantwell


    well done great report, sounded tough! i heard a few were disqualified as well, were they strict?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Podge83


    well done great report, sounded tough! i heard a few were disqualified as well, were they strict?

    Saw in the results that a few were DQ'd not sure why. I was on my best behavior!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭BTH


    Certainly two DQs for not serving the time penalty for a drafting offence. If there was other DQs I'm not sure what they were for.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Just a note, but I think it is worth pointing out, and being 100% serious here, but fair play to the competitors(including one of our own mods) who stopped to help the lady(I’m pretty sure it was a lady) who crashed on the first descent. A lot of training goes into the build up to a race like this, and I’ve a lot of respect for anyone that throws away their chance of a goal time to help a fellow competitor. I know it’s easy to say sure everyone would stop, but that focus on the time can make it easy to think that someone else will stop and I’ll just go on. So again, well done on a very sporting act


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Podge83


    mossym wrote: »
    Just a note, but I think it is worth pointing out, and being 100% serious here, but fair play to the competitors(including one of our own mods) who stopped to help the lady(I’m pretty sure it was a lady) who crashed on the first descent. A lot of training goes into the build up to a race like this, and I’ve a lot of respect for anyone that throws away their chance of a goal time to help a fellow competitor. I know it’s easy to say sure everyone would stop, but that focus on the time can make it easy to think that someone else will stop and I’ll just go on. So again, well done on a very sporting act

    I came across her (I couldn't tell whether it was a lady or man) there were people around helping out when I passed and the ambulance was on the way up. I think if I was first to come across her I would have stopped - (as you say that's easy to say now but I hope I would have), but there was help there already. It didn't look good. Anyone know how she is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭frazzledazzle


    Podge83 wrote: »
    I came across her (I couldn't tell whether it was a lady or man) there were people around helping out when I passed and the ambulance was on the way up. I think if I was first to come across her I would have stopped - (as you say that's easy to say now but I hope I would have), but there was help there already. It didn't look good. Anyone know how she is?

    I heard on Saturday night (The Wander Inn) she had a broken coccyx and collar bone and discharged herself from hospital ............... now this was after more bottles of beer than I could count ..........

    Great report and toughest race out there !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭Fazz


    Swim:

    - Started hard and was on feet and climbing over legs in the first 100m or so which was a good sign normally.
    Stuck the head up and realised a pack was forming ahead and getting a gap.
    Went to go around the right hand side of those ahead of me and got mashed up.
    Head back up and see pack getting away, I veer to the left and move ahead of the feet I was on but it's too late.

    Notice pack is keeping to the right, but as I'm sighting the buoy is straight ahead if not slightly left.
    A couple of lone swimmers to my left heading for it, I'm in no mans land in the middle but trying to stay on line and keep effort up.
    Get to first buoy ahead of the feet I got stuck behind, but the front pack is gone.
    Singles out a bit more and I'm around a small few as we move across and then return to T1.
    I try to pick up effort, then try to stay on feet, the damage has been done.
    Conserve a little on feet, hard to sight and stay on similar lines.

    Swim - 2,020m, 29:40.

    Theoretical 1:29/100m pace which I'd be happy with. However can't trust garmins, and gotta be questioning my lines as it's not on and showing up a weakness. I worked on my fast starts for this and felt it went well, but just got caught behind slower swimmers too soon and missed the group.
    Could maybe have saved 1min if I had made the group, who knows.

    T1 - ran past bike, got a slap on leg from Trinewbie as I turned to go back.

    Bike - started well, Felt good, got half a bar into me early and was sticking to power guidelines for the start - 260-270w.
    Trinewbie comes past and I keep the gap but stay on his pace.
    Watts are still in line so on target.
    Up over first climb, pass a few on the descent and moving ok.
    Next climb is the long one and I'm starting to wane a little but not much.
    Trinewbie a couple people ahead but still in sight when road opens so not too concerned.
    Lose sight of him on the snakes and ladders and I pass a couple more but he has a gap.
    Circa 40km in, Avg Watts at 270 as planned but I'm starting to feel it.
    Watts drop to 240 ish and lower and I get passed by 2 others.
    I up the effort here and make a conscious effort to gap the 2 ahead, and push into Glengarrif.
    I manage a burst over 300 watts to get past them, and hold pace for 5 mins ish before dropping back to 260.
    Then effort drops to 230 and I'm struggling to maintain much above this.
    OK, recover a bit, get the watts back up Caha and push to the end.
    Doesn't happen, I get passed by 2 or 3 going up Caha, struggling to hold 230w and getting worse here.
    Legs not on a good day.
    Get worse from here and roll home in no mans land.
    Contemplate DNF'ing, know the race is over, but find my way out of the dark place and continue on.

    Bike - 2:25 odd, 230w AP, 244 NP, Same as last year but much slower, and legs dead. Shocking.

    T2 - My clubmate beside me has kindly left their wetsuit on my left sock so it's nice and soaking for me. Wring it out and put on, and out the gap.

    Run - Get passed early by Paddy Quinn, try to stick to him but on the rolling section I'm really feeling it.
    Just hold form and get through it, use it as a training day I'm saying and try negative split the run.
    Garmin is acting up so pace is gone, but timer is on at least.
    I see Charlie with a massive lead, and clock myself around 14th by the 7.5k turn.
    Through 10km at 46mins and so on for a 1:36 odd split.
    I see the leading ladies coming against me and reckon I've only 3 or 4 mins gap, it was more but wasn't looking at watch much.
    Race now becomes a "must not get chicked" mentality and try continue and neg split the run.
    I up the effort a bit from 20k and whilst I'm not labouring, I don't have much extra intensity to offer.
    Across line in 14th I think and a 1:33 run split.

    4:33 - Miles off being competitive. Legs died from 40k and that was that.

    Hindsight.

    Day off the previous Sunday, and 2 easy days previous to race does not a taper make.
    Week 4 done of high TSS and volume in last build for IM.
    I had planned more of a taper for Kenmare, but it didn't transpire and I prioritised a few IM sessions knowing Kenmare would be v competitive and not where my training Zones had been focussed on.

    Happy to get through the race without DNF'ing despite entering the dark place a few times from 40k on the bike.
    It's a strange one, when you know you're not at your best or having a PB, do you just quit and pack it in saying oh I'll save the legs, or I'm not fit for the run or whatever.
    I could easily have done this, saying oh I'll save legs for training etc. I didn't, I may not have pushed myself 100% but that was more a case of feeling fatigued and not being able to rather than not wanting to.
    It's very much the easy way out a dnf. But if you've got to the start line unless there's a particular injury, then death before dnf! :)

    Not taking much out of the race result really, I didn't have the intensity, freshness or power to come close to the front guys and largely due to my recent heavy block and not tapering to recover, absorb and get fresh.
    Here's hoping the focus pays off in 3 weeks and I get the taper right.

    All the same, love Kenmare and it's a great race. Very difficult course and will find out any weakness.
    Defo a strong bikers preference, and Charlie destroyed the field with an epic split in fairness to him.
    As did Aileen and now I have to get my a$$ in gear or I may be chicked by her in Mallorca! Extra motivation as if I needed it!


    Additional note - it's hard planning a late season peak.
    Sacrificing earlier performances, race season, sure enjoying nicer weather for main training but seeing all the races go by and not being able to be competitive at them as you're in no mans fitness land until closer to the race date.

    Early season A race needed next year to ensure all the work is done over the winter and then look at blocks or 1 or 2 more key races during summer.


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