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Can someone identify this coin for me

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  • 12-07-2009 2:51pm
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    Fighting Irish
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    One side is in decent condition, the other side is crap. Its a skinny coin compared to coins around now. I can make out "17" on one side.

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    robbie_998
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    well that 17 looks like its part of a year for the date on the coin

    but where its from ? i'd say UK

    dunno what amount it is


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    Fighting Irish
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    OK i think i found it

    http://www.ringramcoins.com/5G1700.htm

    or actually maybe out


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    Fighting Irish
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    or maybe, haha i can't make my mind up


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    Drakmord
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    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    OK i think i found it

    http://www.ringramcoins.com/5G1700.htm

    or actually maybe out

    I don't think that's it


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    Fighting Irish
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    Drakmord wrote: »
    I don't think that's it

    Ye its not :o


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    spurious
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    Looks like it's certainly British.
    The pattern we can see is quite like this one, though I doubt it's a half guinea.


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    Fighting Irish
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    spurious wrote: »
    Looks like it's certainly British.
    The pattern we can see is quite like this one, though I doubt it's a half guinea.

    ?


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    spurious
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    George III?

    http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/g3/index.html


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    spurious
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    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    ?
    The 'coat of arms' pattern - is the image not showing?
    Previously the four coats of arms were separate but from what I can see, in the reign of George III they were amalgamated into one.
    See the examples of the quarter and five guineas coins.
    No idea what denomination it is though, sorry.


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    spurious
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    Is there any way you could clean it up a bit?


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    brightkane
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    I know nothing about coins, but would tracing it like u did when you were a kid be an option to see if its any clearer,

    put a white sheet of paper over it and gently use a pencil or crayon to make an impresison?


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    Hagar
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    It could be a George III Quarter Guinea

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    Fighting Irish
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    spurious wrote: »
    Is there any way you could clean it up a bit?

    Soak it in olive oil seems to be the least harsh way of doing it?


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    Fighting Irish
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    Its pretty much the exact same diameter as a euro 50c at about 24mm diameter.
    The coin is very skinny, i'd say less than 1mm thickness


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    Fighting Irish
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    I can see the coin more clearly now, and i think its this one

    http://www.ringramcoins.com/HG1778.htm

    Can anyone see any reason why it would not be this one?


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    spurious
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    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    Its pretty much the exact same diameter as a euro 50c at about 24mm diameter.
    The coin is very skinny, i'd say less than 1mm thickness

    From Wikipedia:
    George III
    George III, 1775 Guinea
    George III, Spade Guinea, 1795

    The guineas of George III weighed 8.4 g and were 24 mm in diameter, with an average gold content (at the time of the 1773 assay) of 0.9146. They were issued with six different obverses and three reverses in 1761, 1763–79, 1781–99, and 1813. All the obverses show right-facing busts of the king with the legend GEORGIVS III DEI GRATIA with different portraits of the king. The reverse of guineas issued between 1761 and 1786 show a crowned shield bearing the arms of England+Scotland, France, Ireland and Hanover, with the legend M B F ET H REX F D B ET L D S R I A T ET E date ("King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lueneburg, Arch-Treasurer and Elector of the Holy Roman Empire"). In 1787 a new design of reverse featuring a spade-shaped shield was introduced, with the same legend; this has become known as the Spade Guinea.

    It's in terrible condition, so probably not worth a lot, but if it is a George III guinea, it's a nice find. Did you dig it up?


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