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How to go primal (without really trying) - join me?

  • 02-01-2012 11:39AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭


    All the info HERE

    I'm aiming for one step a week
    so today is week 1 day 1
    Add more fresh fruits and veggies to your diet. Expand the variety that you do eat. Get some diversity in there. Make them colourful if possible — dark leafy greens, blueberries, purple beets, etc.

    I am pretty damn poor at eating fruit & (more so)veg so it won't be too hard to improve on this.
    So I had sauteed spinach & mushrooms and a fried egg for breakfast...a very tasty start to the day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    I may tag along with you on this. No mushrooms however!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    frag420 wrote: »
    I may tag along with you on this. No mushrooms however!!

    mushrooms not obligatory :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Day 1 almost over and I'm proud to say I've notched up 7 veg + 4 fruit

    Lunch was a very veggie omelette

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    and I did things like adding frozen berries to my protein shake.

    Definitely keep the brain working on how to get those totals high. Bought lots of veg in Aldi today so looking forward to tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Going well, had 3 veg with breakfast, and 2 with lunch (beetroot, goats cheese & walnut salad)

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    + 2 fruit so far.

    Would love some compnay on my journey to better health....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Frogdog


    Would love some compnay on my journey to better health....

    I'm on a Paleo/Primal -ish diet already, sorry. I'm sure there are some lurkers out there that would be willing to try it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I ate sweet potato for the first time today with tuna, instead of my usual white potato. Does that count? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    im quite the fussy eater so I am going to have to find some alternatives to what your eating...........this will be tough!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    I ate sweet potato for the first time today with tuna, instead of my usual white potato. Does that count? :)

    I think it's an improvement, I think the whole potato/sweet potato thing is a bone of contention in the paleo/primal plan. Maybe someone more knowledgable can help....

    @frag - you don't have to eat what I do! Just add more veg & fruit, and a good variety of it. Try some new things :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    I ate sweet potato for the first time today with tuna, instead of my usual white potato. Does that count? :)
    As far as I can see the only thing that the sweet potato is supposed to have going for it over the regular one is that it is supposed to have a lower glycemic index. But since the whole GI thing is a pile of horse manure, I really don't see the difference in having a regular vs sweet potato. They both offer different nutrients to your well balanced diet.

    Also if you are really talking about eating an ancestrally appropriate diet (which is what a paleo/primal diet is, afterall) then you will be hard pressed as an Irish person to find a more appropriate food to eat than the spud IMO.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Well we know where reliance on the spud got us!

    Day 2 completed , once again 7+3 :)


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    Also if you are really talking about eating an ancestrally appropriate diet (which is what a paleo/primal diet is, afterall) then you will be hard pressed as an Irish person to find a more appropriate food to eat than the spud IMO.:)

    Too right RC! I'm reading this at the moment. (Painfully dry.. not a beach-read that's for sure!) and if there's one thing that I can glean from the book so far its that poor Irish people survived off gallons of milk and pounds of potatoes and not a whole lot else for about 400 years. (To be precise, 14lb of potatoes and 2 gallons of milk PER PERSON PER DAY!!)

    It's kind of ludicrous to value the sweet potato (which is a neolithic crop anyhow) over something that has been that much of a staple in our diet for so long.

    Plus I fecking hate sweet potatoes. yuk:p


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    Day 2 completed , once again 7+3 :)

    Well done! How are you feeling so far? I'd love to join you but I'm honestly scared of what all that fibre would do to my IBS!:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Also if you are really talking about eating an ancestrally appropriate diet (which is what a paleo/primal diet is, afterall) then you will be hard pressed as an Irish person to find a more appropriate food to eat than the spud IMO.:)
    The Paleo/Primal 'thing' is based around eating foods that our ancient ancestors ate though, not our more recent ancestors, people we can put names to in many cases. :D

    The reasoning being that 4-5 million years of evolution has left us very well able to utilise 'basic' 'natural' Paleo/Primal type foodstuffs, whereas we've had (relatively) very little time to adapt to 'modern' foodstuffs: grains, refined sugars, etc.; foods that were developed during the recent 10,000 years since to dawn of recognisable 'agriculture'.

    Potatoes have only been in Europe since about 400 years ago, which is a period that barely registers on the total time humans have been on the planet, and were domesticated in Peru only 7-10,000 years ago.

    I've pretty much eliminated potatoes from my diet at this stage, and don't miss them a bit.
    Parsnip (roasted!!!) and cauliflower make excellent substitutes for bulk and mouth-feel, and they taste great too.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    Most veggies in their current form are neolithic and specially bred though..I don't get the potato avoidance, parsnips have almost the same amount of carbs and less protein (Fun fact: potatoes are 10% high quality protein!).

    I do think if you fry potatoes yes, they become something that you are liable to overeat, I cannot restrain myself around roast potatoes, they have a strange hold on me!:D

    But a baked potato with a dollop of sour cream is really filling and healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Rovi wrote: »
    The Paleo/Primal 'thing' is based around eating foods that our ancient ancestors ate though, not our more recent ancestors, people we can put names to in many cases. :D
    Yup, I am well aware of the premise of Cordain's Paleo diet, ie that we have only changed by something like 0.05% in the last 10,000. However it is generally accepted that humans have evolved in the last 10,000 and continue to evolve and adapt. One such adaptation being that we can digest lactose into adulthood (am pretty certain that I read somewhere that this adaptation involved the continued ability to break down lactose ie lactase persistence?)
    Rovi wrote: »
    The reasoning being that 4-5 million years of evolution has left us very well able to utilise 'basic' 'natural' Paleo/Primal type foodstuffs, whereas we've had (relatively) very little time to adapt to 'modern' foodstuffs: grains, refined sugars, etc.; foods that were developed during the recent 10,000 years since to dawn of recognisable 'agriculture'.
    I agree that we are probably not adapted to 'modern' foodstuffs which have been engineered to be hyperpalatable and contain things such as excess fructose, gluten and seed oils. However I'm with El_D in that I fail to see how the poor potato has been bunched in with these things:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Well I always tell my kids that potatoes don't count as a vegetable, in my mind they are a starch liek pasta , rice etc, and I have as little as possible. I would see sweet potato in the same light..
    for me this is about Add more fresh fruits and veggies to your diet and tryingt o follow the article week by week. I'm not too bothered about labels or whether I'll be eating "paleo" or "primal" by the end of it. I just want to develop an even healthier diet.

    @El_Dangeroso , thanks I'm feeling great, very virtuous for sure :) and it's certainly helped shift the Xmas pounds - I've lost 1.6 lbs in the last 2 days:D

    eta breakfast - spinach, mushrooms, tomatoes, ham & egg
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Plus I fecking hate sweet potatoes. yuk:p

    I'm no potato hater!!! I just wanted to see what all fuss was about with sweet potatoes. BB community always goes on about eating low GI sweet potatoes. Tbh i felt the same after eating the sweet potato as I would a white potato.

    It wasn't bad cut up into chips and cooked with a little macadamia oil and some paprika. I'd still prefer jacket potato though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭beatrice33


    I came across this "Weekly Paleo Meal Plan". It looks good, Im going to give it a go.

    It says is not for loosing weight but an "anti-inflammatory eating plan". I'm sure if you adjust the portions will work as well as a diet. I really like all her recipes as I am a huge fan of almond flour.

    http://www.elanaspantry.com/weekly-paleo-meal-plan/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    I'm gonna try out the cauliflower rice. Sounds lovely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    beatrice33 wrote: »
    I came across this "Weekly Paleo Meal Plan". It looks good, Im going to give it a go.

    It says is not for loosing weight but an "anti-inflammatory eating plan". I'm sure if you adjust the portions will work as well as a diet. I really like all her recipes as I am a huge fan of almond flour.

    http://www.elanaspantry.com/weekly-paleo-meal-plan/

    Some nice recipes there, will be checking out the side dishes!

    @stenchblossoms
    I've done something similar - boiled a load of frozen cauliflower until soft, blitz in processor with cream & seasoning. Very nice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Well we know where reliance on the spud got us!

    Day 2 completed , once again 7+3 :)

    Day 3 , 8 + 4( I'm counting avocado as a fruit)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Frogdog


    Dotcomdolly, can I just say that your meals look mouthwatering!!! I want! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    and if there's one thing that I can glean from the book so far its that poor Irish people survived off gallons of milk and pounds of potatoes and not a whole lot else for about 400 years. (To be precise, 14lb of potatoes and 2 gallons of milk PER PERSON PER DAY!!)

    that's over 7000 cals by rough estimations. and they'd likely been significantly shorter than people of today

    wtf like?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    that's over 7000 cals by rough estimations. and they'd likely been significantly shorter than people of today

    wtf like?

    I know, back breaking manual farm labour uses a lot of energy I guess! They women were remarked upon for being 'particularly beautiful' so that would indicate very low incidence of nutritional deficiency as the first thing to suffer is usually teeth and facial bone structure development. Dull as dishwater book but it does have a few gems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Delicious lunch - leftover veg from last night's dinner - broccoli, peas & green beans, made into a frittata with goats cheese & fresh basil.
    It's an enjoyable challenge to think of how you can max out the veg quotient of every meal. I'm at 6 veg + 1 fruit already today:D
    Last week I probably would have been having 1 veg + 2 fruit per day.

    eta - total for day4 = 8+2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Due to lack of forward planning :o breakfast today was the same as lunch yesterday

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    Feeling grumpy & finding it a bit tiresome today tbh. Need to think of what I can have next week when the kids are back in school rather than the veggie fry....(mind you I timed it start to finish, 7 minutes, maybe I can fit it in)will check out some paleo sites but a lot of their breakfasts are based on meat.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    Due to lack of forward planning :o breakfast today was the same as lunch yesterday

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    Feeling grumpy & finding it a bit tiresome today tbh. Need to think of what I can have next week when the kids are back in school rather than the veggie fry....(mind you I timed it start to finish, 7 minutes, maybe I can fit it in)will check out some paleo sites but a lot of their breakfasts are based on meat.

    Egg muffins are always handy and you can make them the night before and pack them full of veg.

    Or if your getting egged out, ratatouille actually makes a pretty delicious breakfast. Or vegetarian lasagne made of aubergine instead of pasta. Or moussaka.. lots of variation on that theme!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    Egg muffins are always handy and you can make them the night before and pack them full of veg.

    Or if your getting egged out, ratatouille actually makes a pretty delicious breakfast. Or vegetarian lasagne made of aubergine instead of pasta. Or moussaka.. lots of variation on that theme!

    There was a thread about egg muffins awhile ago. The theory sounded great but they weren't that fantastic when I made them.

    I had cauliflower rice with my dinner last night... although it was more like mashed potato 'cause my blender useless. Nice though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly



    There was a thread about egg muffins awhile ago. The theory sounded great but they weren't that fantastic when I made them.

    I had cauliflower rice with my dinner last night... although it was more like mashed potato 'cause my blender useless. Nice though.

    Lol that was MY thread. Yeah they weren't all that, going to try the breakfast loaf recipe from foodee.com

    Thanks for ideas el d too


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    Lol that was MY thread. Yeah they weren't all that, going to try the breakfast loaf recipe from foodee.com

    Thanks for ideas el d too

    Haha! Well I used to love them :p

    What's the recipe for the breakfast loaf?


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