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First Car, First NCT...

  • 03-05-2012 9:30pm
    #1
    hattoncracker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭


    Hi everyone,

    I have a little Polo, it's my learner car, it's an old one my mother signed over to me as my sister learned to drive in it, and it holds huge sentimental value to her so she never wants to sell it, she knows it wouldn't last too long for me, and that it was rusting a little.
    I recently experienced my first puncture, and when my bf was changing the tyre for me he said that the whole underside of the car is totally rusted. Like we had to move the jack because certain parts of the underside of it were almost rusted away. My NCT is in two months and I hope to have my full licence by then. But if I have my full licence, I'm not going to spend a lot of money getting this car fixed up, because IMO it's not worth it because it's not something I want to keep long term, much as I do enjoy driving it.

    Does anyone have any clue how much it would cost to get that type of rust fixed, or is it even worth my while?


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  • #2
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,596 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    It would have helped a smidgin if you said how old the car is but as it's a Polo I guess the answer will be the same - it will be uneconomic to repair hence you should scrap it.

    By 'uneconomic' I mean that the car will be worth less after the repairs than the cost of the repairs, in other words it's a write-off.


  • #3
    hattoncracker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭hattoncracker


    coylemj wrote: »
    It would have helped a smidgin if you said how old the car is but as it's a Polo I guess the answer will be the same - it will be uneconomic to repair hence you should scrap it.

    By 'uneconomic' I mean that the car will be worth less after the repairs than the cost of the repairs, in other words it's a write-off.

    Sorry, 1999 so 13 years old. That's what I've been saying and thinking, but my mother's idea is that 'a bit of rust never hurt anyone, and it might go through'. But I'm no more willing to spend over €200 on this car, because it doesn't really suit my needs as it is, the drivers seat doesn't like to stay where I put it (which is kind of dangerous, since I'm very small!), and little things like the cigarette lighter not working, which is bad for me because I work selling phones (and was going by the same principal of repairing mobile phones as cars with my line of reasoning), and I am very conscious of the legal and practical aspects of having no carkit or car charger!


    There's a whole other drama about why she doesn't want me getting a newer car but that's neither here nor there.


  • #4
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    hattoncracker wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    I have a little Polo, it's my learner car, it's an old one my mother signed over to me as my sister learned to drive in it, and it holds huge sentimental value to her so she never wants to sell it, she knows it wouldn't last too long for me, and that it was rusting a little.
    I recently experienced my first puncture, and when my bf was changing the tyre for me he said that the whole underside of the car is totally rusted. Like we had to move the jack because certain parts of the underside of it were almost rusted away. My NCT is in two months and I hope to have my full licence by then. But if I have my full licence, I'm not going to spend a lot of money getting this car fixed up, because IMO it's not worth it because it's not something I want to keep long term, much as I do enjoy driving it.

    Does anyone have any clue how much it would cost to get that type of rust fixed, or is it even worth my while?


    Depends on how extensive the rust is and how rusty it is.

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    It could very well be surface rust, which is acceptable but if you can poke a screwdriver thorough it I would stop driving the car for your own safety


  • #5
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,596 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    If you couldn't use the primary jacking points because of rust then you have a serious problem. You would fail the NCT on either or both of these bodywork failure criteria....
    1. Primary structural components broken, cracked, insecure, damaged or rusted to an advanced stage.
    2. Secondary structural components missing, insecure, rusted or damaged to such an extent as to leave sharp edges.

    It's not realistic to even consider repairing serious rust in a 1999 Polo, it would be a complete waste of money.


  • #6
    hattoncracker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭hattoncracker


    Yeah, it's all primary rust. :(

    Like it's all totally underneath, from the outside she looks absolutely perfect!


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  • #7
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    hattoncracker wrote: »
    Yeah, it's all primary rust. :(

    Like it's all totally underneath, from the outside she looks absolutely perfect!


    Again if its only surface rust, your fine. (even with primary sections...)

    Take some sandpaper to it and see if metal comes good underneath.


  • #8
    hattoncracker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭hattoncracker


    coylemj wrote: »
    If you couldn't use the primary jacking points because of rust then you have a serious problem. You would fail the NCT on either or both of these bodywork failure criteria....
    1. Primary structural components broken, cracked, insecure, damaged or rusted to an advanced stage.
    2. Secondary structural components missing, insecure, rusted or damaged to such an extent as to leave sharp edges.

    It's not realistic to even consider repairing serious rust in a 1999 Polo, it would be a complete waste of money.

    Yeah, I kind of had a fair feeling of that alright myself. I knew this was coming..... I'm going to get a quote and just tell her..


  • #9
    Mech1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭Mech1


    Do nothing until you get the failure sheet!!!

    Remember it passed 2 years ago so how much worse could it be?

    If your "worried" find a garage that does free nct prechecks and ask them to SHOW you whats wrong with the car, while its on a ramp.


  • #10
    hattoncracker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭hattoncracker


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Do nothing until you get the failure sheet!!!

    Remember it passed 2 years ago so how much worse could it be?

    If your "worried" find a garage that does free nct prechecks and ask them to SHOW you whats wrong with the car, while its on a ramp.

    It has to be tested every year, so it was last August it was tested. They told her then that there was very little chance of it passing this year because it was starting to rust.

    I'm only new to the Limerick area, wasn't aware you could get free pre-NCT checks. I'll have a look for that! Thanks!


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