Are men the new women?

Originally posted by Wicknight
LOL at this thread

Name one thing men cannot do because women won't let them??

You challenged me so I accept.

When I used to go on holidays every year with my family to Kerry, a little place called waterville where my mother grew up.

Her sister owns a caravan park there, or rather used to, she's since sold it.

My sister used to do regular baby sitting for a particular family, although it was a service provided by my moms sister and she hired all of her nieces who were interested & available.

My sister wanted to go out one night so she begged me to baby sit for this family as they desperate.

So I caved, I mean sit around playing with children til they go to bed and then watching tv and getting paid IR£10 was a big deal at that time (I was about 16 at the time).

So my sister took me down to the family and said, this is my brother and they looked at her rather strangely as if to say - uh...hes a boy, but she explained I had experience baby sitting and was a responsible young adult (a complete lie but anyway).

So they accepted and shortly afterwards they left for the pub.

It was still bright so I took the kids outside and we played soccer (2 boys & 1 girl) they were much younger than me so I played in goals for fear of hurting them.

We played that for several hours before I finally decided it was time for them to go to bed. So I put them to bed (pretty simple really - Kids time for bed - OK!). Then I settled down to a few hours of watching some late night tv.

When the family arrived and saw that the place was clean and the kids were in bed they seemed rather delighted and surprised at the same time. The gave me my IR£10 and an additional IR£10 because they were so late.

The next day when they came up to the office of the caravan park and requested me to baby sit again, my Auntie heard about how I was baby sitting the night before, about how I was a "spectacular young man" but would hear none of it. She claimed she could not allow me to baby sit for fear I might SEXUALLY MOLESTE the children.

Thats just one particular instance, I can think of others but then you just asked for one.

No one is forcing anyone to go Metrosexual (I still don't quite understand what that is anyway)

Metrosexual was a term used by microsoft, read further up and you should see a link (assuming its still there) it means a man who is in touch with his "feminine side".

Some women seem to think that acting like a man is the only way to get equality and respect and all this "laddish" culture that women seem to be rushing to embrace is a bit silly and hypocritical ... but that has nothing to do with the oppression of men ... most men love it

And I'm afraid that that is utter BS on both counts.

Women who act like men do not get anywhere in modern businesses. Its women who use their sexuality as a tool, rise the highest. Its a pity they should have to do this in order to get any kind of success and of course its part of nature and thus theirs to use as they see fit.

And any man who says he likes a girl to act a bit "laddish" is a closet homosexual. Wearing my shirts is as laddish as I like any girl to be thank you very much.

It is not alright for a woman to be sexual aggressive towards a man if the man doesn't like it, but how many men do you know who wouldn't like it .. show me a man who feels threatened by an "up for it" woman (who isn't gay or being chatted up by the office face-like-a-donkey-arse)

If a woman is dressing sexually is that not sexual harrassment?

If a woman comes to work wearing a short mini skirt is she not evoking a response in a man which will get him into trouble?

Sued for sexual harrassment, fired for misconduct - labelled a rapist?

I gurantee you any man in this scenario will dislike this.

But it isnt really about whether he likes it or not. If its not alright for us to be sexually aggressive, then why is it alright for them?
I mean its not called EQUALity for nothing.

On top?? They are still miles below us in nearly every aspect of life ... show me one area of life (other than mothering) a man is not allowed into.

All this has nothing to do with the oppression of men ... it is to do the changing gender roles and the loss of male identity that some men experience. Men need to feel they have a special role in life, that they alone can do certain things that provide for their family and society. It is all about what the man feels he can offer to a potential mate that makes him worth and special. My Dad always barges in front of my mother when a ligthbulb needs to be changed, even though my Mom knows exactly how to change a light bulb and his done it a million time before. Every male needs to feel that his mate needs him so he can define his own selfworth.

But FFS its 2003!!! 1 Million years of evolution behind us!! Get over it!!!

And I'm not saying men are being oppressed, I'm simply saying thats the way it looks like its heading.

And with regard to your anecdote, thats a completely different generation for starters. What I'm talking about comes from my generation, those who are in their 15-30's.

Woman are being taught from a much earlier age that sexuality is a weapon, exploit it. Perhaps it is, but its up to us to cop onto that and get over it.

Amazing 1 million years of evolution behind us and we still let our groins do the thinking.

Now I know I may come off as some kind of woman hating biggot, but I'm not really. As I've said before, I like woman but I dont like being manipulated (Not that I'm implying all woman are manipulaters)

Originally posted by neuro-praxis
Women do 80% of the world's work and earn 10% of the world's wages.

Seriously?

Have you got statistical proof?