Waterford v Dublin NHL

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

I would have a lot more confidence in hurlers than our footballers at the moment tbh

Why's that? Dublin hurling has improved massively over the last 5 years but they're still a fair bit off the level of the likes of Kilkenny, Tipperary, Waterford, Cork and Galway imo. Hopefully Dublin can break into that top tier in the next 5 years but they're definitely not there yet.

Footballers, on the other hand, have won the last 5 Leinsters in a row and although they're still behind the likes of Kerry, Tyrone and probably Cork, they are in the top tier of counties. 2 from 2 in the national league aswell means I'd still have more confidence in our footballers than hurlers.

Why in the name of God isn't Kearney playing? Surely better than Murray. Power should be playing too, we all know what Clinton can do

comeraghs wrote: »

Where in Dublin are Faughs & O´Tooles GAA clubs based?

good to see Mark O´Brien (Tallow) is recovered from his injury ... we might well be a future regular at corner back or even fullback.

You´ll be grand in the Vincents or Ciarans clubhouses with your jersey on,

Faughs are in Templeogue, just up from the Spawell roundabout, right beside Judes are are a hurling only club. O'Tooles play in Ayrfield on the Malahide Road, mainly a hurling club, and also involved in the Eamonn Fennel scandal.

I wouldn't put the hurlers ahead of the footballers just yet. In my opinion the footballers are 4th behind Kerry, Cork, Tyrone, but have the ability to beat these teams on any given day.

Possibly controversially, I'd put the hurlers 5th in the country, behind Kilkenny, Tipperary, Galway and Waterford, but the chances of them beating any of the above in a big game would be slimmer. They're definitely ahead of Wexford, Clare and Offaly. Limerick will take a while to rebuild from the current crisis and Cork seem to have stagnated, they don't have the underage talent at the moment and are relying on the old guard.

Gingy wrote: »

Faughs are in Templeogue, just up from the Spawell roundabout, right beside Judes are are a hurling only club. O'Tooles play in Ayrfield on the Malahide Road, mainly a hurling club, and also involved in the Eamonn Fennel scandal.

I wouldn't put the hurlers ahead of the footballers just yet. In my opinion the footballers are 4th behind Kerry, Cork, Tyrone, but have the ability to beat these teams on any given day.

Possibly controversially, I'd put the hurlers 5th in the country, behind Kilkenny, Tipperary, Galway and Waterford, but the chances of them beating any of the above in a big game would be slimmer. They're definitely ahead of Wexford, Clare and Offaly. Limerick will take a while to rebuild from the current crisis and Cork seem to have stagnated, they don't have the underage talent at the moment and are relying on the old guard.

Until Dublin beat the bigger teams in championship games they can't really say they are ahead of them IMO

adrian522 wrote: »

I'd put the current state of the teams at:

KK
Tipp
Galway
Waterford
Cork
Wexford
Dublin
Offaly
Clare
antrim
Calrlow
Westmeath
...
...
Leitrim
Sligo
Tyrone
Armagh
Limerick

This is clearly wrong.

Armagh should be ahead of Tyrone, Sligo and Leitrim

I'd go:

KK
Tipp
Galway
Cork/Waterford
Dublin/Clare
Offaly/Wexford
Laois
Westmeath/Kildare/Antrim/Carlow
Limerick

And after that I don't give a ****.

I don't know why everyone rates Galway so highly. Who of note have they beat in the last three years in the chapionship to deserve such acclaim?

They are one of only two teams in the country capable of beating KK imo.

Gingy wrote: »

Well we'll just have to wait and see. Last season Cork got knocked out in the first round of Munster and round 2 of the qualifiers. Dublin got to a provincial final and an All-Ireland quarter final and in my opinion they are justifiably ranked above Cork on the ranking order.

We got knocked out by Tipperary and Galway after a non-existent pre-season. Dublin got knocked out by Limerick after a full league and pre-season.

I'm suggesting that comparing last year's results (which still comes down on our side, because we would never have lost to a mediocre Limerick side) and suggesting Dublin are superior to Cork despite completely different preperations to the season is absurd. I can't make it any clearer then that.

It is going to a close game, going with Dublin, if they win it wil drive them on.

Gingy wrote: »

Well that's jut completely hypothetical, we could say we wouldn't have lost to Galway! In fairness, the preparations to the league were completely your fault down there, there were no outside circumstances and it definitely can't be used as an excuse.

I know that we have to start pulling some big punches in Championship hurling, but going on recent form and the amount of young players coming through, I would have higher hopes for Dublin than Cork for the next few years.

:rolleyes: I'm not going to bother explaining this again, I'd just be repeating myself. Suffice to say, by the end of the year we'll both know who was right.