Joe Coleman rollcall for Knock Sat 31st Oct

This is taken from Joe Coleman's website :

http://www.knockapparitions.com/views/80-is-god-real

Is God real?

Is God real?

From the day we are born until the day we die we live in a world, that no matter how knowledgeable we are, no matter how far we have developed intellectually, none of us fully understand the world we live in.
We spend a lot of time trying to explain why things happen, why we are really here, where we actually come from, and how we got here in the first place. Most of us know, in our hearts, that a superior being – a God – was responsible for bringing the whole thing about. Why? Because of the spirituality we all feel at some stage, the love that we have for each other that we just cannot explain or rationalise. This love is what sets up apart from the animal world. Yet we still struggle to believe. For some of us we will always find a logical scientifically evaluated reason why we are here. And it has nothing to do with God.

Anti-God Views
Scientists and Atheists take the view that if you cannot prove that God exists then he doesn’t. They set out to try and prove that God is not real. Every effort is made to provide a logical reason as to why God is a figment of people’s imagination. People with faith are psychotic, mad and delusional. Religion blocks social progress. And so forth do the arguments ensue. But they can’t provide a convincing explanation that satisfies. Yet, if they ask Christians to prove that God exists they, too, will find it equally difficult to convince them that God really exists. And so the argument will continue.
We may like to think we know it all. We might like to think that we can prove, scientifically, all we need to know but the puzzle will always remain.
Few, atheists included, will find it impossible to explain away extraordinary events, inexplicable wonders such as miracles, the wonder of love – and deep emotional and spiritual feelings that people feel, through logical explanation. Even in the cases of miracle cures, stigmata, or an impossible cosmic phenomena such as the sun spinning and dancing in the sky – they will be put down to ‘mind over matter’. But is this a logical explanation?
How Religions can mask Evil
For the believer, God is life. God is about love. Science is not about life, nor is it about love. Nor does it claim to be. Science has done much for mankind. But it has destroyed life too. Likewise, certain fundamentalist religions destroy lives too. Take the cases practiced by extreme fundamentalist 'so called religions' where women are still, today, stoned to death for crimes for which they are not responsible. You only have to look at crimes against women where, because they are victims of rape, they are murdered to see how evil can manifest itself behind a religious facade. Then you just have to look at the horrific cases of child abuse which have been covered up by the Catholic Church to see evil present itself yet again. Yet it is through religion that Satan manages to pervert the truth. His primary targets are those in religious orders. Because if he can contaminate them then people will people will turn their backs on God. And the innocent priests, bishops, cardinals suffer for the sins of the few.
What is the truth?
So what is the truth? What do most people believe in? Well we know that the Bible is the best selling book of all time. So we can assume that at least 2.5 billion people believe that the truth is contained therein. But where is the proof? And how do you proof that there is a God?
People who believe in God develop a spirituality that simply can’t be measured. It is very difficult to scientifically prove that God exists. Yet it you take the miracles that have been witnessed in Lourdes, Mejugorje and the signs that thousands of people, including the 70,000 people at Fatima witnessed in 1917 scientists will still always find a way to disprove these events. Believers will find ways to prove that they did.
In today’s world ,millions of people now claims to be agnostic (where they keep an open mind and not convinced one way or another in the existence of God). Others claim to be Atheist and will admit they have an absence of belief in a God of any kind. They are entitled to their belief.
Christians and other religions will constantly go out of their way to try and convince the Atheists. But without the ‘proof of God’ that is demanded by Scientists their arguments will fall on deaf ears.
How Religion breeds Hatred
Very few Christians would claim to hate Atheists. Yet, religion is often used as a cover up for evil deeds. On the other hand the current new breed of Atheism – organised Atheism driven organisations springing up in the world today also mask evil and in some cases display clearly their outright hatred of all religions . The question to ask now are they, themselves, setting up their own religion?
Evil, is present both among religions from each side. It is present in those who profess to believe in God, as well as in Atheist organisations who deliberately set out to dispel any kind of belief in God.
Only the truth will survive – one way or another.

Jelly2 wrote: »

Back to Joe Coleman! Patrick, you must be back from your weekend now...you still haven't told us how you know that Joe Coleman is an 'authenticated visionary.'

I've been following "messages and accounts " of visionaries for 17 years .I have no hidden agenda only what I will say is I was an atheist myself in that I spent a lot of time in my youth reading books to disprove existence of God until I realised one day in middle of one book I was reading what a load of crap this guy was saying to try and refute existence of God .
Then i went forward with a cautious approach and eventually I had some experiences which and still do assured me of existence of God and Our Lady and how they bring about healing in our lives.I come from very much a science background and although all my family would have been devout followers of God.I did not have any desire to follow in their footsteps.
So anyways you asked me how I know Joe is an authenticated visionary nobody in this world knows that 100% but what I have witnessed in Knock is supernatural occurrences ,healings ,and also felt presence of Our Lady there so strong that it would make you want to stay there.The Love of God shines through many aspects in life .I go to Knock when Joe Coleman is there as witness and observer and its been plus have got some inner peace and healing in my own soul.
We all need that now there is noone can stand out in middle of a crowd all the way through their life and honestly say they don't need God.Its self destructive to think like that ,it will only rot away inside of you .Some people in this world may have given up on God for in their own minds just reasons by listening to radio and media and I wouldnt blame anyone for thinking like that its a natural response for us as humans to feel like that.I feel like that many days myself it would be foolish to think I am any different to my emotional response to anything I witness like everyone else in media.So some of us or many of us I don't know everyone's beliefs may have given up on God but God will never give up trying to help you!
His ways are not our ways ,His Truth will always be to help us and guide us not to divide us .

King Mob wrote: »

Can you explain how exactly you know Joe Coleman is a visionary?

Because he sounds exactly like someone how is mentally ill.

And any chance I can have this answer in a clear concise way without all your nonsensical and poor formatted sophistry?

I could spend 4 hours talking about how I think he is a true visionary and not a false one but you would still not believe me .Did you go see Joe Coleman yourself or did you go to Knock on 14th July 2010.Are you going to go on 25th August 2010? I suspect not .But without your own personal experience and with continual relying on general consenus of the media that he is not a visionary then you will never know for sure if he is a visionary or not.
Prove to me he is not a visionary ?

sensibleken wrote: »

The reason there are worldwide tragedies are because we turned our back on the Dagda.

that oil spill? a big hole driven into the earth by a massive pipe? that was the dagda and his giant wang. that big hole in Guatamala? Snap. The ozone layer? Bingo!

There have been many giant holes that have appeared over the last few hundred years and all because we stoped paying attention to the Dagda...and his wang. He is annoyed and his wrath is great, though thats not the only thing.

do you deny that these things happened patrickk?

Let me get this straight Joe Coleman is mentally ill ?
Some laugh alright whats going on in the world at the moment eh ?
cop yourself on and get back to reality buddy!

checkyabadself wrote: »

Care to elaborate.....



I would like to know what supernatural occurances occured.



I dont need God.

That my friend you will never know ,my occurrences that happened were between me and God and I will only tell them to people who will respect them.
When you're dying on your death bed in 60 years or earlier time come back to me and tell me that .Ive heard it all before thousands of times .