Poland - 'No Irish need apply'

DonJose · 02-01-2009 7:26am #1

'NO Irish need apply' -- the signs are already going up on building sites abroad in a throwback to the grim days of the the last century.

But this time they are starting to appear in Poland as that country takes its revenge for the way in which some unscrupulous Irish contractors treated their countrymen during the years of the Celtic Tiger.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/no-irish-need-apply--polish-builders-get-their-own-back-1589265.html

Fukk, better mark Poland of the list, anybody know if Latvia and Lithuania are hiring

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 7:35am

Check your link again, I just skimmed through it, but nothing about what your post title says is in that link

arybvtcw0eolkf · 02-01-2009 7:35am

DonJose wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/pubs-and-hotels-braced-for-full-force-of-the-gale-1589251.html

Your link goes to a story about the downturn in the Hotel and pub trade in 2008.

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 7:39am

DonJose wrote: »

'NO Irish need apply' -- the signs are already going up on building sites abroad in a throwback to the grim days of the the last century.

But this time they are starting to appear in Poland as that country takes its revenge for the way in which some unscrupulous Irish contractors treated their countrymen during the years of the Celtic Tiger.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/pubs-and-hotels-braced-for-full-force-of-the-gale-1589251.html

Fukk, better mark Poland of the list, anybody know if Latvia and Lithuania are hiring

They are just right, look after your own people.

Sure was Paddy Go Getter not ripping off the foreigners for years, thinking he was the big shot. Not bend over Paddy.

Maybe all our little politically correct Irish people will finally realise they have been had, how does it feel to have the shoe on the other foot, Paddy?

(And by the way, I am an Irishman myself, but not a "european".)

Toiletroll · 02-01-2009 7:42am

I dont see poland mentioned in the article

DonJose · 02-01-2009 7:46am

Link fixed :pac:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 8:04am

FloorBoard wrote: »

They are just right, look after your own people.

Sure was Paddy Go Getter not ripping off the foreigners for years, thinking he was the big shot. Not bend over Paddy.

Maybe all our little politically correct Irish people will finally realise they have been had, how does it feel to have the shoe on the other foot, Paddy?

(And by the way, I am an Irishman myself, but not a "european".)

Where you from then, Ireland, America? You're european, no matter what angle you look at it from.

Well I think it's a load of balls, they came over here and worked, if we had "no polish" signs up there would be a lot of discrimination cases. They wanted in the EU, they are in the EU, it's tough sh!t. They should be sorted out. That annoys me...

fluffyduffy · 02-01-2009 8:10am

Sure was Paddy Go Getter not ripping off the foreigners for years, thinking he was the big shot.

+1

I saw Polish people treated very badly here. Under paid or not paid at all. It was well known. I made several Polish friends, and I was embarrased to be Irish at times.

This did not happen in all cases, but it was quite common.

'NO Irish need apply' -- the signs are already going up on building sites abroad in a throwback to the grim days of the the last century.

But this is still wrong!

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 8:12am

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

Where you from then, Ireland, America? You're european, no matter what angle you look at it from.

Well I think it's a load of balls, they came over here and worked, if we had "no polish" signs up there would be a lot of discrimination cases. They wanted in the EU, they are in the EU, it's tough sh!t. They should be sorted out. That annoys me...

No I'm irish but not European, big difference.

Who said they wanted into the EU, their "elected representatives"? You look after your own people first. That is how things should work, the average irishman has had his head so fried by political correctness he does not know what he is at.

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 8:14am

fluffyduffy wrote: »

I saw Polish people treated very badly here. Under paid or not paid at all. It was well known.
This did not happen in all cases, but it was quite common.

I worked on the sites with the Polish people myself. Great people, very well educated and they were treated like skip rats.

fluffyduffy wrote: »

I was embarrased to be Irish at times.

At all times I am ashamed to be Irish, I never seen a people so turned by the lure of a few pound. Disgusting.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 02-01-2009 8:14am

Irish taxi driver's find new cash cow in Nigeria.

The tide has turned.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 8:17am

FloorBoard wrote: »

No I'm irish but not European, big difference.

*Crickets*

Can you explain how you are Irish but not European? If one of your parents is Irish and you were born and raised on another continent then it maybe work (Then you would be half Irish, like the rest of the world).

Who said they wanted into the EU, their "elected representatives"? You look after your own people first. That is how things should work, the average irishman has had his head so fried by political correctness he does not know what he is at.

Are you for real? Seriously...

They weren't draged kicking and screaming, I didn't hear of any riots and major protests against the move. They are in the EU now so they must play by the rules.

Oh they'll learn soon enough.

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 8:22am

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

*Crickets*

Can you explain how you are Irish but not European? If one of your parents is Irish and you were born and raised on another continent then it maybe work (Then you would be half Irish, like the rest of the world)..

What, I was born in 1969. Well before we joined the beloved "european community". And it is a political matter, next thing you will be telling me you are a "world citizen", just wait until the propaganda comes out and you update your operating system.

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

Are you for real? Seriously...

They weren't draged kicking and screaming, I didn't hear of any riots and major protests against the move. They are in the EU now so they must play by the rules.

Oh they'll learn soon enough.

Oh, I'm serious alright.

What will they learn, if I learnt anything about the eastern europeans it is this, they do not liked getting pushed around.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 8:26am

FloorBoard wrote: »

No I'm irish but not European, big difference.

Who said they wanted into the EU, their "elected representatives"? You look after your own people first. That is how things should work, the average irishman has had his head so fried by political correctness he does not know what he is at.

Times change, unfortunately for you as it seems, you are now a European. There is no possible way of denying that. Ask anyone, you are European

FloorBoard wrote: »

What, I was born in 1969. Well before we joined the beloved "european community". And it is a political matter, next thing you will be telling me you are a "world citizen", just wait until the propaganda comes out and you update your operating system.

I suppose you think joining the EU was a bad thing, right?

Oh, I'm serious alright.

What will they learn, if I learnt anything about the eastern europeans it is this, they do not liked getting pushed around.

Well they put up with it for long enough, made a pretty penny from it too. They weren't complaining when they first came over.

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 8:29am

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

Times change, unfortunately for you as it seems, you are now a European. There is no possible way of denying that. Ask anyone, you are European .

Ask anyone?? I keep my own consul. I do not need leaders.

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

Well they put up with it for long enough, made a pretty penny from it too. They weren't complaining when they first came over.

Yeah, before Paddy Go Getter though he could have them. They were sold a dodgy dream, a dream you still seem to believe in.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 8:32am

FloorBoard wrote: »

Ask anyone?? I keep my own consul. I do not need leaders.

Bad retort.

Yeah, before Paddy Go Getter though he could have them. They were sold a dodgy dream, a dream you still seem to believe in.

Three posts you have used that word, it's not exactly nice to be using. It's pretty offensive, even if you are Irish.

Anyway, I seriously doubt that they will have them signs up for long. It's completely ignorant to do such a thing in order to "get your own back". Two wrongs don't make a right. Now does it?

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 8:36am

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

Three posts you have used that word, it's not exactly nice to be using. It's pretty offensive, even if you are Irish. ?

Political correctness offends me. what are they going to do about that?

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

Anyway, I seriously doubt that they will have them signs up for long. It's completely ignorant to do such a thing in order to "get your own back". Two wrongs don't make a right. Now does it?

They will stay up, or if need be enforcement will be de facto if need be.

These people are tight, they look after their own.

Steve.Pseudonym · 02-01-2009 8:51am

FloorBoard wrote:

Ask anyone?? I keep my own consul. I do not need leaders.

:eek: Ultra-hardcore.

My take on the situation is that discrimination is discrimination, eastern europeans getting ripped off here is no justification for racism against us, two wrongs and all that.

brianthebard · 02-01-2009 8:52am

fluffyduffy wrote: »

+1

I saw Polish people treated very badly here. Under paid or not paid at all.

Not paid at all? Can you give some context to that, was it a business that went under? Or they just didn't pay any of their workers? if someone wasn't being paid for their work because they were Polish like you seem to be suggesting then there should have been a court case, was there? Why/why not?

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 8:56am

Steve.Pseudonym wrote: »

:eek: Ultra-hardcore.

My take on the situation is that discrimination is discrimination, eastern europeans getting ripped off here is no justification for racism against us, two wrongs and all that.

Read the old testament, "an eye for an eye"

Vadrefjorde · 02-01-2009 8:58am

brianthebard wrote: »

Not paid at all? Can you give some context to that, was it a business that went under? Or they just didn't pay any of their workers? if someone wasn't being paid for their work because they were Polish like you seem to be suggesting then there should have been a court case, was there? Why/why not?

Many well publicised instances that were a regular feature of the national news??

Google polish + non payment + ESB = one of the most prominent cases

Getting back to the topic fair play to them, their treatment here was nothing less than disgusting.
I would scrub Latvia off your list too, they are more nationalistic in their views and values than the Polish ever were.
And no Europe will not get them to change that.

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 8:59am

Vadrefjorde wrote: »

their treatment here was nothing less than disgusting.
I would scrub Latvia off your list too, they are more nationalistic in their views and values than the Polish ever were.
And no Europe will not get them to change that.

Yes. That was/is the reality.

Terrontress · 02-01-2009 8:59am

Membership of the EU and all its iterations has been one of the best things that has ever happened to this country. Big roads paid for by Europe and computer companies and banks opening here to trade with Europe without cross border tariffs.

Hopefully Poland will get great advantages but they have to play ball and these signs should be clamped down upon by the Polish authorities tout de suite.

Hagar · 02-01-2009 9:00am

What's the big deal, who the fnck wants to go and work in Poland anyway?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 9:01am

FloorBoard wrote: »

Read the old testament, "an eye for an eye"

yea, because those who live by the sacred book are pillars of society... LOL?

Living your life by a ficticious and extremely flawed book suggests that you are not a very serious person...

seanybiker · 02-01-2009 9:02am

ha ha thats very funny. They are right to though. We treat them like crap so why not

AlmightyCushion · 02-01-2009 9:02am

Vadrefjorde wrote: »

Many well publicised instances that were a regular feature of the national news??

Google polish + non payment + ESB = one of the most prominent cases

Getting back to the topic fair play to them, their treatment here was nothing less than disgusting.
I would scrub Latvia off your list too, they are more nationalistic in their views and values than the Polish ever were.
And no Europe will not get them to change that.

How is it ok to fúck over people who may have done nothing wrong just because some dickhead from the same country fúcked over someone you know. Also the chances of the same people who fúcked over their fellow countrymen actually looking for a job in Poland would be slim I'd say.

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 9:02am

Terrontress wrote: »

Big roads paid for by Europe.

And here was me paying tolls all over the place, do you know something I don't?

Terrontress wrote: »

and computer companies and banks opening here to trade with Europe without cross border tariffs.
.

12.5 % tax rate, and what was that about the banks €12,500 for every man woman and child?

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 9:04am

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

Living your life by a ficticious and extremely flawed book suggests that you are not a very serious person...

Most peole would hold the opposite view, in the extreme

AlmightyCushion · 02-01-2009 9:04am

seanybiker wrote: »

We treat them like crap so why not

No we didn't. Some of us treated some of them like crap. Big difference.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 9:06am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

No we didn't. Some of us treated some of them like crap. Big difference.

True that...

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 9:06am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

How is it ok to fúck over people who may have done nothing wrong just because some dickhead from the same country fúcked over someone you know.

Reality check, I believe that is the term.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 9:07am

You should stop now... really... Make another account and start afresh. Will do you the world of good.

Rb · 02-01-2009 9:27am

Lol Poland.

dSTAR · 02-01-2009 9:38am

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

You should stop now... really... Make another account and start afresh. Will do you the world of good.

Xavier you know the term enough rope? Well I demand satisfaction

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 9:40am

dSTAR wrote: »

Xavier you know the term enough rope? Well I demand satisfaction

Yikes, no... what's that mean? Am confused :P

dSTAR · 02-01-2009 9:45am

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

Yikes, no... what's that mean? Am confused :P

Given enough rope the person or in this case poster will eventually hang themselves or make a fatal error.

L1011 · 02-01-2009 9:49am

Terrontress wrote: »

Big roads paid for by Europe

Europe mostly paid for regional grade roads with the state funding the motorways.

Terrontress wrote: »

and computer companies and banks opening here to trade with Europe without cross border tariffs.

We would have that under EFTA without being in the EU. And they're here cause of our corporation tax which the EU is itching to force us to raise (but currently can't).

FloorBoard · 02-01-2009 9:52am

MYOB wrote: »

We would have that under EFTA without being in the EU. And they're here cause of our corporation tax which the EU is itching to force us to raise (but currently can't).

Don't burst the man's bubble, and sure LISBON will sort out that tax affair.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 9:53am

dSTAR wrote: »

Given enough rope the person or in this case poster will eventually hang themselves or make a fatal error.

Ah ok, ha fair enough :P

thebman · 02-01-2009 9:55am

I can't imagine that will last long. They can't be allowed to get away with it by the EU. It is a common market.

Doesn't really matter as they can still discriminate once the signs come down anyway. It might be to do with being poorly treated or else they think Irish people are lazy or that they'd expect special working conditions like back home.

There are a millions ways to legally discriminate against people from a certain background though so I'm sure they'll find away to not hire Irish people.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-01-2009 9:59am

FloorBoard wrote: »

Read the old testament, "an eye for an eye"

Jaysus, you know it's a flawed argument when someone reaches for the old testament...

Kintarō Hattori · 02-01-2009 10:14am

Nico Loose Viewfinder wrote: »

You should stop now... really... Make another account and start afresh. Will do you the world of good.

One of the few times I'll most likely agree with you sir.

Rb wrote: »

Lol Poland.

Welcome back rb.

Ckal · 02-01-2009 10:23am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

No we didn't. Some of us treated some of them like crap. Big difference.

+1

The Polish being treated like dirt here is the biggest generalization of the past few years. I know a lot were, and that's really bad, but lots were not.

ThunderCat · 02-01-2009 10:29am

I think "FloorBoard" should change his name to plank.
Paddy Go Getter. Honestly, has anyone else ever heard that term?? Obviously a yank.

Rb · 02-01-2009 10:29am

ThunderCat wrote: »

I think "FloorBoard" should change his name to plank.
Paddy Go Getter. Honestly, has anyone else ever heard that term?? Obviously a yank.

Plank the Yank so?

ThunderCat · 02-01-2009 10:31am

lovely ring to it. i think it could stick.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-01-2009 10:32am

ThunderCat wrote: »

I think "FloorBoard" should change his name to plank.
Paddy Go Getter. Honestly, has anyone else ever heard that term?? Obviously a yank.

Class

:P

Rb · 02-01-2009 10:35am

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Welcome back rb.

Thanks Eo!

It's really quite difficult to know what to say, or how to react upon hearing such news to be honest.

It's very easy to jump in and say "The bastards! How dare they bite the hand that fed them for so long", or "Damn right, sure a lot were treated like crap while they were here". While both statements hold true, neither are perfectly correct.

However, it is sad to read things like this and it certainly won't help the declining attitude Irish people have towards the Poles in this country should said news become wide spread or more commonly known.

Gummy Panda · 02-01-2009 10:35am

Smart move by the polish. I'm sure it won't have a negtive effect on the polish still living in Ireland. :rolleyes:

There is only one way to fight this, we go to poland and eat their swans!

Btw, Welcome back RB

Solair · 02-01-2009 10:44am

The building industry's always treated workers like dirt. It's nothing new, once they can get away with it.

Look at how badly Irish workers were treated in the UK in the 1960s/70s. I have seen shocking abuse of foreign workers, mostly from Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe in the UK too and clearly it went on here.

I am wondering if that "No Irish" sign is just a single one off ?

Also, is there a massive movement of Irish people to Poland ? I haven't seen any evidence of this. The wages are really low relative to here, I'd say a lot of people would re-train / look towards English speaking markets before they'd move to somewhere like Poland.

Poland - 'No Irish need apply'

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