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Charles Haughey Has Died + Poll

constitutionus · 2006-06-13 10:01:47

just like it says, died today around a quater to 11 aged 80 , just wondering what you thought?

13-06-2006 11:01am

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constitutionus

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just like it says, died today around a quater to 11 aged 80 , just wondering what you thought?

Should Charlie Haughey get a state funeral 305 votes

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#2 13-06-2006 11:02am

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No Way

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#3 13-06-2006 11:04am

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scumbag tbh but RIP

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#4 13-06-2006 11:04am

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Here's the link:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0613/haugheyc.html

Never speak ill of the dead.

That said, he was corrupt and a cut-throat.

RIP

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#5 13-06-2006 11:04am

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I won't cry any tears for him.

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#6 13-06-2006 11:04am

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Jezz he was ill a long time.Well he certainly made his mark and wont be forgotten.I guess all his mistakes are insignificant now,RIP.

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#7 13-06-2006 11:04am

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just heard it on the news. he died of prostate cancer an hour ago.

i have no thoughts on it though, cos i'm not bothered.

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#8 13-06-2006 11:06am

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Best of a bad bunch, still though you have got to love him, sure who wasnt/isnt corrupt in politics.
Tell me that and I'll vote for them.

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#9 13-06-2006 11:09am

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May he rest in peace, and I hope his family get time and space to mourn him.

On a political note he should not recieve a state funeral, he may have done a lot for this country but he did the majority of it corruptly for his own rewards.

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#10 13-06-2006 11:11am

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Rest in peace

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#11 13-06-2006 11:11am

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I think it's an absolute disgrace that he's getting a State Funeral. I know protocol demands it, but it still leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Still, much as I detest the man, I hope his family are coping.

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#12 13-06-2006 11:12am

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Funsterdelux wrote:

Best of a bad bunch, still though you have got to love him

absolutely not. he was scum

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#13 13-06-2006 11:17am

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I retract that earlier statement. I am deeply upset and demand that we have a public day of mourning for one of our greatest leaders.

Really.

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#14 13-06-2006 11:19am

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Gangstaarrrrr.

All he needed was his own rap record deal.

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#15 13-06-2006 11:21am

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Funsterdelux wrote:

Best of a bad bunch, still though you have got to love him, sure who wasnt/isnt corrupt in politics.

Typical Irish attitude to the malaise of this country.

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#16 13-06-2006 11:21am

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Wonder if he left instructions to be buried in a charvet shirt as a final two finger's to this country?

It's very hard to be sympathetic to the Haugheys but RIP

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#17 13-06-2006 11:22am

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Mossy Monk wrote:

absolutely not. he was scum

Scum like cream in this society rises to the top.

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#18 13-06-2006 11:22am

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http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2805019&postcount=23

Thats two down 3 to go. Almost a year to the day as well. Just call me nostrapigheadus.

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#19 13-06-2006 11:22am

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In fairness to him he was a very competant minister and did a great job of Minister for Justice before the corruption started. That said he can't be forgiven the corruption.

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#20 13-06-2006 11:29am

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Mr.D.Leprachaun wrote:

did a great job of Minister for Justice before the corruption started.

lol, only in ireland could you get away with a statement like that:D brilliant!

that said theyre already lionising the guy. its like when he resigned all over again. we all know he was a crook but even in death no ones the balls to say it. and people wonder why were apathetic about politics

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#21 13-06-2006 11:31am

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Fair enough I was only yanking yis r chains, I be too young to remember when he was in his hayday, I have only what i have learned from news reports and the back of sugar packets to go on.

TBH couldnt give two fiddlers either, still he was more of a celeb over the last 10 years, you dont see Dick Spring in the news every week.

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#22 13-06-2006 11:31am

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Femmy wrote:

just heard it on the news. he died of prostate cancer an hour ago.

i have no thoughts on it though, cos i'm not bothered.

prostate cancer?
so he finally got fucked in the ass.
fitting death.

condolences to his family.

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#23 13-06-2006 11:32am

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CJ Haughey has died, do you believe he should get a state funeral?

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#24 13-06-2006 11:34am

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padi89 wrote:

I guess all his mistakes are insignificant now,RIP.

Why, because he died???

I'm sorry for his family who i am sure loved him and will miss him, but he wronged a nation, so f*ck him.

The only bad thing is they offered the guy a state funeral.....just more tax money gone astray.

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#25 13-06-2006 11:34am

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Yes, I think so. He may not have been the nicest or the most popular of people, but he was still An Taoiseach, so we should show respect for that at least.

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#26 13-06-2006 11:36am

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Voting no.

More tax money gone on a state funeral for that f*cking thief????

Load of bollox if you ask me.

As i said in another thread, i'm sure his family loved him and will miss him, but he wronged a nation and in my opinion never paid the price.

Now out tax money is gonna be spent so Bertie can stand there and ignore the fact that he was a scumbag???

Come back St Patrick, there still snakes in Ireland.:rolleyes:

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#27 13-06-2006 11:37am

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Only if we get a day off work to mourn*.

*Mourning may involve spending the day in the pub.

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#28 13-06-2006 11:38am

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I think it should definitely be a state funeral, the man was a great leader and an example to us all...

On a completely unrelated note: we do get a day off for state funerals, don't we?

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#29 13-06-2006 11:39am

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No.

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#30 13-06-2006 11:40am

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Im in the no camp also.

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#31 13-06-2006 11:40am

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Dragan wrote:

The only bad thing is they offered the guy a state funeral.....just more tax money gone astray.

actually AFAIk they dont have a choice, as an ex taoiseach he's entitled to one wheather the nation supports one or not. im dying to see what happens in the dail. Fianna Fail spent alot of time recently trying to rehabilitate haughey image (which from as far as i can tell hasnt worked, most of us still see him as a crook:D ) and then he up and dies on em!
the state funeral should be fun. of course the usuall FF flunkies will be out but how big of a turnout do you think he'll get?

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#32 13-06-2006 11:40am

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super_furry wrote:

I won't cry any tears for him.

2nd that

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#33 13-06-2006 11:40am

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He was better than the shower we have at the minute.

RIP.

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#34 13-06-2006 11:41am

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super_furry wrote:

Only if we get a day off work to mourn*.

*Mourning may involve spending the day in the pub.

Yes... I too feel I should be allowed to mourn* I'd mourn* all day, and maybe move on to mourn* at a late night venue after that

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#35 13-06-2006 11:45am

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Dragan wrote:

As i said in another thread, i'm sure his family loved him and will miss him, but he wronged a nation and in my opinion never paid the price.

Now out tax money is gonna be spent so Bertie can stand there and ignore the fact that he was a scumbag???

I agree with the first sentence here but not entirely with the second ... Bertie never ignored the fact that he was a scumbag - he actively participated in the scumbagry. Never forget that Bertie was the treasurer at the time that Charlie was screwing the country.

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#36 13-06-2006 11:46am

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Was gonna come on here and post "why? is he dead?" (considering this questions been prematurly asked about 100 times here and considering he's been dying for about 15 years now). I really should keep up on current affairs!

Anyway, I'm in the "don't care" category atm. If theres people out there that want to give the crook a fancy farewell then it's no skin off my ass.

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#37 13-06-2006 11:47am

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Surely an East End style gangland funeral with horse drawn carriage and attendees in sovereigns and cheesy sunglasses would be more appropriate.

However, I like the idea of a day off As Ed Byrne (i think) on the panel said

"I mean, Charlie Haughey? He looked like a particularly sh1t Bond villain"

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#38 13-06-2006 11:47am

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If they have a state funeral will we be able to see if they staked him through the heart, just in case like?

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#39 13-06-2006 11:48am

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Macros42 wrote:

I agree with the first sentence here but not entirely with the second ... Bertie never ignored the fact that he was a scumbag - he actively participated in the scumbagry. Never forget that Bertie was the treasurer at the time that Charlie was screwing the country.

Good blood point.

I shall change my statement to " Now our tax money is gonna be spent so Bertie can stand there and hope to f*ck that no one points out that the whole damn lot of them are bent as hell!"

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#40 13-06-2006 11:51am

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Tha Gopher wrote:

Surely an East End style gangland funeral with horse drawn carriage and attendees in sovereigns and cheesy sunglasses would be more appropriate.

However, I like the idea of a day off As Ed Byrne (i think) on the panel said

"I mean, Charlie Haughey? He looked like a particularly sh1t Bond villain"

Well Ed Byrne looks like a big-nosed woman but i digress.Haughey should get a Mussolini -style funeral,with him and his cronies hanging by ther ankles from a flagpole as an example to others.

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#41 13-06-2006 11:53am

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Aye Dragan, the way that most of the current FF crowd will still refuse to outwardly condemn the guy is mad. I remember Mary O`Rourke on the Panel (again) sidestepping questions basically asking whether he was a disgrace or not. Flatly refused to say a bad word against the guy.

From the BBC

"One heard that money intended for a liver transplant for the late Brian Lenihan, a former government minister, ended up in Charles Haughey's bank account. It was spent on £700 shirts from Charvet of Paris. "

Christ what a sh1t. Its worse than Ted going to Vegas with the sick kids Lourdes money

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#42 13-06-2006 11:53am

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If someone robbed your grannys house do they desver a state funeral?

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#43 13-06-2006 11:55am

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Haughey bashing aside - I would say he should have and does deserve a state funeral. Its a matter of respect from the state to a former taoiseach - it doesnt mean we all approve of everything he ever did.

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#44 13-06-2006 11:55am

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Tha Gopher wrote:

Flatly refused to say a bad word against the guy.

Thats most likely because he would sue them for slander etc!!! You gotta fear the law suits in our modern world.

However, this is the net, so .......

"FU*K THAT THIEF"

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#45 13-06-2006 11:58am

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padi89 wrote:

.I guess all the mistakes are insignificant now

To quote Alan Partridge reacting to a similiar statement

"Hmm, yeah. Thats what Nazi war criminals always say":)

Someone clarify, do we get a day off for state funerals? Or extra pay for working during one?

Like this from the BBC

"Charles Haughey and his entourage enjoyed a lavish lifestyle. He owned a yacht, his own island, race horses and a mansion.

Many believed he was the ideal man to deal with the Irish Republic's chronic debt problem......"

Only in Ireland......

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#46 13-06-2006 12:03pm

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There is no way that he deserves a State Funeral!
The man was a gangster to the core how people can respect him is beyond me.
The list of his criminal activities makes the bases for a trilogy of Hollywood block busters.
The sayin power corrupts was never better associated than to that man.

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#47 13-06-2006 12:06pm

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woodyg wrote:

The sayin power corrupts was never better associated than to that man.

Or Hitler, Stalin, Napolean etc, etc, etc

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#48 13-06-2006 12:06pm

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Macros42 wrote:

I agree with the first sentence here but not entirely with the second ... Bertie never ignored the fact that he was a scumbag - he actively participated in the scumbagry. Never forget that Bertie was the treasurer at the time that Charlie was screwing the country.

yeah, people tend to forget bertie signed all those cheques for haughey but doesnt seem to remember what they were for, not exactly the actions of a good treasurer to sign a compleate book of blank cheques. remember what haughey said about him "the most cunning and devious of em all!":D

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#49 13-06-2006 12:09pm

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Naked Lepper wrote:

If someone robbed your grannys house do they desver a state funeral?

Depends if he's a former Taoiseach or not!

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#50 13-06-2006 12:10pm

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As an ex taoiseach he is entitled to one , so the vote is immaterial. He had his very serious flaws and even if he didn't have respect for the Office at times, the Office needs to be respected.

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#51 13-06-2006 12:13pm

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arroagnce of the fecker,while teh whole country was groaning with unemplyment and strikes and poverty in the 70's,this scumbag was amassing a huge fortune from corrupt dealings AND he never attoned for it.Give him a state funeral my hole,let his estate pay for every funeral in this country for the next twenty years.

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Charles Haughey Has Died + Poll

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