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Man murdered by youth(s) after home attacked(yes it happened in Ireland)

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  • #2
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,802 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Pfft eggs...f**cking noobs... Porks where its at these days


  • #3
    seanybiker
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    seen it on ireland am alright. Some little bastards to do that to the poor man


  • #4
    gurramok
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    Kids with guns in this country, you only hear that sh1t happening in the likes of London.

    That victim could of been anyone, hands up who has chased youngsters after their home been attacked in the past?

    You wouldn't now, fear rules. :mad:


  • #5
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Yes but what will it do to property prices?


  • #6
    gurramok
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    Robbo wrote: »
    Yes but what will it do to property prices?

    Down further :D


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  • #7
    seanybiker
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    Q2002 wrote: »
    Pfft eggs...f**cking noobs... Porks where its at these days
    Good thinking. Thats one way of getting rid of it i suppose


  • #8
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It appears that the guy knew the kids and had gotten on well with them in the past, but they'd recently had a falling out.

    My gut feeling says that it was planned and they were attacking his house so that they could draw him out and shoot him. Whatever you think, teenagers aren't walking around with guns on them as a matter of course. They had that gun for a reason.


  • #9
    gurramok
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    seamus wrote: »
    It appears that the guy knew the kids and had gotten on well with them in the past, but they'd recently had a falling out.

    My gut feeling says that it was planned and they were attacking his house so that they could draw him out and shoot him. Whatever you think, teenagers aren't walking around with guns on them as a matter of course. They had that gun for a reason.

    Hope you're right Seamus. Teenagers shooting people in the manner that was reported has been unheard of in this country till now afaik, hence the shock of this story.


  • #10
    lisbon_lions
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭lisbon_lions


    Whichever way you look at it, wheter they went out with intention or if they were roaming with a gun looking for mischief - how does a 13 year old get access to a gun?? Thats the real problem.


  • #11
    Dave!
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    Jayzus that's terrible :( He had a son too


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  • #12
    Zombrex
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    seamus wrote: »
    It appears that the guy knew the kids and had gotten on well with them in the past, but they'd recently had a falling out.

    My gut feeling says that it was planned and they were attacking his house so that they could draw him out and shoot him. Whatever you think, teenagers aren't walking around with guns on them as a matter of course. They had that gun for a reason.

    Thats was my first thought when I heard about it (though possibly I just didn't want to consider the idea that every 13 year old scum bag these days is wondering around with a knife or a gun randomly shooting someone at the smallest provocation! :()

    It seemed like a classic trap, they provoked him to get him out of the house, they ran away, he chased, when they got to an alley they shot him, rather than a random shooting to do with kids trying to be macho. If it was all about dick swinging they probably wouldn't have run (seemingly only a few of the kids ran, including who ever had the gun), they would have just branded the gun and laughed at him. But then the idea of a group of kids with guns throwing eggs also seemed a bit strange.

    I could be wrong, but to me it seems like there is possibly more going on here, it sounds like it could be premeditated.


  • #13
    FlutterinBantam
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    And all you will hear in the papers is "Tight knit community shocked by mans killing"

    When these little scummers probably were harassing him for the last few months.!!!

    What were they doing then?
    What were their parents doing?
    Will they co-operate with the investigation,or will they see nothing?


  • #14
    Dave!
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    What age was yer man's son? Coulda been the case that they were trying to get HIM to come out, and when the dad came out they sh*t themselves


  • #15
    easyontheeye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭easyontheeye


    should there be a local crime forum to discuss this stuff?


  • #16
    seamus
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    Dave! wrote: »
    What age was yer man's son? Coulda been the case that they were trying to get HIM to come out, and when the dad came out they sh*t themselves
    His son is only 7. I doubt they were trying to get him at all.


  • #17
    stevedublin
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    Dave! wrote: »
    Jayzus that's terrible :( He had a son too

    the 13 year old or the man who got shot?


  • #18
    gurramok
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    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/teen-gunman-shoots-man-dead-outside-his-home-1566878.html
    Local people reported hearing shouts just prior to the shooting on the relatively deserted road.

    "He was always fixing cars in the garden. There was a car set on fire in the garden the other night," said one neighbour.

    It was also reported that Mr O'Kane's car was pushed from the front of his house in the past by his tormentors.

    "He used to fix my car for me. He was lovely," said one local. "I heard he chased them up the lane and he was shot up there.

    "He was no trouble. As far as neighbours go, he was grand."

    Why were they intimidating him?

    I suspect the reaosn, he was a newbie to the area and crucially, actually worked for a living unlike the scum who probably envied someone who worked and contributed good to the community.

    They either planned this murder or one of them decided to show bravado to his mates on the spot :mad:


  • #19
    Dave!
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    stevedublin wrote: »
    the 13 year old or the man who got shot?
    lol..... the victim


  • #20
    John Mason
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    some 13 year old is being questioned according to the 10am news


  • #21
    Zombrex
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    easyontheeye wrote: »
    should there be a local crime forum to discuss this stuff?

    meh, not sure the database on Boards.ie is big enough ...


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  • #22
    gazzer
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    Couldnt believe it when I heard that a 13 years old was getting questioned by police. Wheter this was a planned killing or a spur of the moment thing it beggars believe that group of teenagers think nothing of taking a life.

    When I lived in Mulhuddart there was always gangs of scumbags throwing rocks and eggs at the house windows in the area. I chased them myself a few times.


  • #23
    Latchy
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    Terrible sad news .

    Thing is this sort of terrible murder happen frequently in the uk ,good people killed for absolutly nothing by scumbags .Gary Newloves murder springs to mind .He was kicked to death outside his own house in Warrington by a gang of scummers ,one who had only being released on bail the same day for another previous assault. .


  • #24
    localhothead
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    gas them , and their parents .


  • #25
    Biggins
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    WHEN this scumbag is found guilty, I would love to see his face like they show it on tv in America - I don't give a frak about his possible appeals afterwards.

    These a-holes need to be beaten around the head with a stick every day for six months.
    Knowing thats not going to happen - at the very least, we should stop sticking them into the equivalent of holiday camps with play stations, tv's and pool tables.

    Bring back big time hard labour for the little scumbags.

    I am a parent of four and I can tell you right now that if just one of my kids EVER go something like this or handle a gun, etc - I will kill the sod before he can possibly do harm to any innocent victims.
    And if he/she has done something already and I get informed so by the Gardi, I want to be left in a room on my own with my child for 30 minutes so I can kick the living crap out of him. I'll put the fear of God, the Gardi and everything so much into them in 30 minutes, I'll make Jack Bauer look like he learned everything from me!

    We should stop pissing around and get serious of these teen/adult scumbags!

    I'm sick to death of the wuss do-gooders. Stuff them!
    I've got a big stick and by God - I'm not afraid to use it!


  • #26
    mike65
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    What books can be thrown at a 13 year old? A bit of time in St Pats and a pyschological profile?


  • #27
    MagicMarker
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    mike65 wrote: »
    What books can be thrown at a 13 year old? A bit of time in St Pats and a pyschological profile?
    Take away his wii?

    Kid should be made dig the grave with his bare hands.


  • #28
    tony1kenobi
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    easyontheeye wrote: »
    should there be a local crime forum to discuss this stuff?

    There is a Dublin City forum under "region".


  • #29
    Biggins
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    easyontheeye wrote: »
    should there be a local crime forum to discuss this stuff?

    ...not when the problem of these little scumbags is one that effects the whole of Ireland and its people/victims! :mad:

    Dublin today - your neighbourhood next month maybe!


  • #30
    120_Minutes
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    we're a couple of flaming torches away from vigilante justice. believe me, its only a matter of time.

    people are going to take the law into their own hands, its fast becoming the only option


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  • #31
    [Deleted User]
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    120_Minutes wrote: »
    we're a couple of flaming torches away from vigilante justice. believe me, its only a matter of time.

    people are going to take the law into their own hands, its fast becoming the only option

    It could well go the way of the drug-dealers in the 90's. I.e. the whole community getting together saying a big "GTFO". Don't think we're near a situation like that just yet though. Main problem is the age..If someone of 13-14 did this then he'll be out in 4-5 years and back in the neighbourhood. And an even bigger knacker to boot.


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