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Spotify: An Alternative to Music Piracy

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  • 03-01-2009 8:58pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭



    Spotify is a music service that gives users access to a huge library of music, through a lightweight application that looks like a mashup of the best parts of iTunes and Last.fm. Music is streamed, partly supported by P2P technology, but it plays instantly, like we’ve never seen before. One of the software engineers at Spotify is Ludvig Strigeus, the creator of uTorrent. It is therefore no surprise that the application uses very few resources, just 12k memory when we tested it. The rumor goes that some of the money made when uTorrent sold to BitTorrent Inc., has actually been invested in Spotify, an application that competes with piracy.
    When we asked Andres Sehr of Spotify to describe the service, he told us “Spotify is a new way of enjoying music. We believe Spotify provides a viable alternative to music piracy. We think the way forward is to create a service better than piracy, thereby converting users into a legal, sustainable alternative which also enriches the total music experience.”
    The quality of the music on Spotify is comparable to 160kbps MP3s, which is more than decent for a streaming application. To fill its library, Spotify has cut deals with EMI, Warner Music, Sony BMG and three other major labels, which all responded positively to the new concept. Interestingly, Spotify also uses P2P technology to stream the more frequently accessed tracks.
    “Spotify uses a hybrid p2p system where music is delivered both by our servers and using P2P,” Andres Sehr said. “This allows us to deliver the long tail of music which may not be very popular, as well as quickly serve up the latest hits that the majority of users listen to. P2P allows us to both increase the speed that we deliver music and also lower the cost of streaming it.”
    Aside from being a music streaming application, Spotify also allows users to create and share playlists with each other, the top 100 tracks of 2008 according to Pitchfork editors for example. On top of that, the Spotify interface helps you to discover new artists with its “similar artists” and “artist radio” feature.
    The overall response from Spotify users seems to be very positive, but can it compete with piracy? Time will have to tell, but Spotify invites are actively being traded within the BitTorrent community, and it has even been well received on some of the most elite music trackers.
    One user at the music tracker What.cd wrote: “Honestly it’s going to be huge. I’ve been browsing and playing from its seemingly endless music catalogue all afternoon, it loads as if it’s playing from local files, so fast, so easy. If it’s this great in such early beta stages then I can’t imagine where its going. I feel like buying another laptop to have permanently rigged.”
    Spotify is not perfect though. One of the mentioned downsides is that it is not compatible with iPods and other portable MP3 players. The Spotify team hasn’t ruled out the option of an iPod compatible version in the future, but for now they will focus on optimizing the Windows and Mac application.
    Overall we can conclude that Spotify definitely has potential, but time will tell if it’s able to compete successfully with piracy. Spotify is currently in Beta stage, invites to the free (ad-supported) version can only be used in the UK, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Spain and France.


    So just do this if you want to install it:

    1) go to http://www.daveproxy.co.uk/
    2) enter the following URL: https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/
    3) Create your account, for UK postcode - check http://www.postcodesearch.org.uk/
    4) Download client, works for mac/windows and perfect under linux with wine - note: client does not seems to check ip (yet) :-)

    Quite cool, and it works perfectly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    as far as I know it's no longer UK only based.

    I did have to register using a proxy, but since then, i'm using it and it clearly knows I'm irish, and wouldn't let me use it, until i specified the correct country to correspond to my IP address.

    Great service might I add.


  • Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭paddyb125


    This is an amazing service!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭TechieEddy


    Really fast!! Cheers for the link.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Nice one. Does seem flawless under Wine, plus has plenty of the more obscure stuff I like too. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,517 ✭✭✭matrim


    It's showing as an invite only beta at the moment


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    matrim wrote: »
    It's showing as an invite only beta at the moment
    You've to go through the proxy as mentioned above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭furryvision


    has anyone come across these ads in between songs yet?? my mate in london said he gets one every hour or so, but im yet to hear any at all... im guessing that seen as an irish IP shouldnt be allowed to use the service that it wont play us ads (not that i want to hear them, just curious)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭TechieEddy


    Ya I seen that on their Wiki page that ads are played every so often. Havent heard any either. Must be down to our location.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Blowfish wrote: »
    You've to go through the proxy as mentioned above.

    Went through a UK proxy and got the same :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    http://thenextweb.com/2009/03/04/breaking-spotify-hacked-member-read/
    Spotify, a web/desktop media player have just announced that someone has managed to “compromise their protocols” and gain private information about their users.

    The details the hackers may have gotten their hands on include: passwords, email address, birth date, gender, postal code and bill receipt details.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin



    Yep, they got hacked:
    Dear Spotify user,

    Last week we were alerted to a group that managed to compromise
    our protocols. After investigating we concluded that this group
    had gained access to information that could allow testing of a
    very large number of passwords, possibly finding the right one.
    The information was exposed due to a bug that we discovered and
    fixed on December 19th, 2008. Until last week we were unaware
    that anyone had had access to our protocols to exploit it.

    Along with passwords, registration information such as your email
    address,birth date, gender, postal code and billing receipt
    details were potentially exposed. Credit card numbers are not
    stored by us and were not at risk. All payment data is handled
    by a secure 3rd party provider.

    If you have an account that was created on or before December 19th 2008,
    we strongly suggest that you change your password and strongly
    encourage you to change your passwords for any other services
    where you use the same password.

    When choosing your password we provide you with an indicator of
    the password strength to help you choose a good one. To change
    your password please visit your profile page on our website.

    https://www.spotify.com/en/account/profile/

    For the technically minded amongst you, the information that may
    have been exposed when our protocols were compromised is the
    password hashes. As stated, we never store passwords, and they
    have never been sent over the Internet unencrypted, but the
    combination of the bug and the group's reverse-engineering of
    our encrypted streaming protocol may have given outsiders access
    to individual hashes.

    The hashes are salted, making attacks using rainbow tables unfeasible.
    Short or otherwise bad passwords could still be vulnerable to
    offline targeted brute-force or dictionary attacks on individual
    users, but you could not run attacks in parallel. Also, there
    has been no known breach of our internal systems. A complete user
    database has not been leaked, but until December 19th, 2008 it was
    possible to access the password hashes of individual users had
    you reverse-engineered the Spotify protocol and knew the
    username.

    We are really sorry about this and hope you accept our apologies.
    We're doubling our efforts to keep the systems secure in order
    to prevent anything like this from happening again.

    Regards,
    The Spotify Team

    If you signed up on Spotify before December 20th 2008 and if you use the same password on alternative services - change ALL your passwords immediately.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Anyone else able to get the proxys working? I've tried the daveproxy along with others I've googled but I still get the same invite-only page.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭el dude


    deise59 wrote: »
    Anyone else able to get the proxys working? I've tried the daveproxy along with others I've googled but I still get the same invite-only page.

    Same here. Would love to get on this, only heard great things.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Worked perfectly with mr (used UK proxy).

    Nice interface though have yet to search through the database.

    I may switch from www.deezer.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    They are blocking high hitting proxy IP's.

    I used
    http://www.htmlblock.co.uk

    and got through.

    I found it by googling UK web proxy and then clicking on about page 18 and using one from there as I figured they were blocking them.

    You can then sign up using a post code. I used one I got from the wikipedia page for Uk postcodes below:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_postcodes#Format

    It was easy and worked. You can't download the software using the web proxy but this doesn't detect your IP address so go to the address for that in a new tab/window.

    You can go to spotify.com and there is a download link for windows on the bottom of the homepage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭el dude


    yep, got in too, took a few different tries with different proxies. got in on a french one eventually, then it was easy enough finding any random postcode in france.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    As far as I can tell, this isn't Open Source software.


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