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CK402 - Biological and Chemical Sciences

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  • 28-07-2009 6:08pm
    #1
    notnormal
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭


    Hey, so I'm hoping I'll be doing this course this year. Just wondering if anyone else on here will be starting? No idea what I'll do degree-wise so this seemed best for me, anyone in same boat?

    See ye round UCC


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    #2
    captainspeckle
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭captainspeckle


    i have a friend doing that course and headin into 2nd year in september, she is still not completely sure what she wants to do when she is finished either but she has loads of options because the degree is so broad, so i think you are safe on that side of things anyways! dont worry you will figure it out eventually, just enjoy it! :D best of luck with your lc results and CAO!


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    KnifeWRENCH
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    Well if you don't know what degree you want yet but you're interested in Biology and Chemistry then you've definitely picked the right course. :)

    My sister did this course and had plenty of options for which degree to choose. She eventually went for Microbiology and loved it.


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    chemistycoco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭chemistycoco


    hey im doin biological and chemical sciences in ucc and i love it!

    I must say that myself and all my friends( in other courses and in biochem) werent too sure after the inital 'YAY COLLEGE' feeling. But i must say after gettin used to bein away from home i LOVED UCC and cork!I cant wait to head back.

    Biochem is a fab course, there's so much options. But you must do well in your summer exams to get your pick of courses for 2nd yr!

    Good luck!


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    Homicidal_jesus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Homicidal_jesus


    im going into 1st yr biochem too!!cant wait!!freakin love biology and chemistry


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    notnormal
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭notnormal


    yay I'm not the only freak who loves biology n chemistry, I've known since first yr in secondary that i wanna stick with science forever!

    Glad I'm not the only one who feels like that, all my friends are arts students, they think I'm crazy!


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    Bloody Nipples
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭Bloody Nipples


    Screw the arts students, they're dead in the water in regards getting a real job in the current economic climate. I'm going into 3rd year biochem, it's a great course and first year is piss. And fyi, you don't have to do well in your first year exams to get your course, that's second year.


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    captainspeckle
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭captainspeckle


    Bloody Nipples wrote: »
    Screw the arts students, they're dead in the water in regards getting a real job in the current economic climate. I'm going into 3rd year biochem, it's a great course and first year is piss. And fyi, you don't have to do well in your first year exams to get your course, that's second year.

    you are pretty much wrong on every count there. you do have to do well in your first year exams to get into the subject groupings you want or if you want to do something like biomedical science only people in the top precentage are allowed in. i know this from my freind agonising over it. and first year is not "piss" i also know this from the ridiculous amounts of tests and assignments my friends got. Not trying to scare people going into it bt its def challenging, which most courses are. dont expect a walk in the park, OBVIOUSLY... :D


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    sunnyevvo
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    i just finished it... Word of advice study physics everyone fails it in first year.. Study in second year it affects your choices for third year.. I specialised in Physiology and there are no jobs but hopefully it will have changed by the time ye finish


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    jonny ambition
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭jonny ambition


    I'm going into 1st year chemical science to get into teaching maths and physics. In 2nd year I hope to be getting into Edu in Physical Science which puts you into placement straight off. Guess you'll know pretty quickly if the teaching thing is right for you. Anyway there's only 10 places available so it's very important you do well in 1st year. If 1st year is easy it shouldn't be a problem right?


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    notnormal
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭notnormal


    So they tell us haha

    I'm in two minds, I'm looking at either doing edu in phys sciences or chem of pharmaceutical compounds. hopefully i'll be able to make up my mind by the end of first year


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    jonny ambition
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭jonny ambition


    Its the 3 months of holidays that get me! No question in my head. But if I dont find teaching is right for me, at least I'll have the science degree. :)


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    notnormal
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭notnormal


    Yeah, that's what appeals to me as well, but remembering the piss we used to take outta our teachers in school (and we were a nice enough crowd) I'm not sure I could put up with it. At least I can take the module and decide whether I wanna keep it up after that


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    jonny ambition
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    Yea! I remember. Though there were only 12 of us in honours maths out of 120. A bit of a knacker school!

    Anyway I'm looking forward to the choice at the end of 1st year. There is so much you can do with this course. I'm sure we'll all figure it out as the year goes by.


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    notnormal
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭notnormal


    We had 15 out of 108 in our honours maths class. Not that our year was dumb, but that our teacher was useless, whole class ended up getting grinds. Its a miracle that we all got an honour in it, that i know of...

    Hopefully it'll be handy in the end. I did honours maths, chemistry and biology, so just have to concentrate on physics this year.


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    Homicidal_jesus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Homicidal_jesus


    i hate physics really dont want to do it!!at least it will be the only thing i will have to do a decent bit of study for!

    Thinking about doing zoology atm!


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    Kimelastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭Kimelastic


    Can you still do biomedical science with this course even though it's seperate on the CAO? Or would you have to transfer in second year?


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    flo8s967qjh0nd
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    Even those who did physics for the LC may struggle with the first year physics in this course - but it's well worth making the effort because it will effect overall marks.
    Attend as many lectures as you can - if you slack in physics particularly, you'll find it hard to get back. If you haven't studied physics before and have trouble with it, get the physics LC book cheap and use that to get your bearings before tackling the more advanced stuff.
    Same goes with the Biology and Chemistry -- if you haven't done them before, then the LC books are a good starting point IF you get lost.

    Attend ALL your labs and tutorials. They are great for getting to know your class and very interesting.
    Homicidal_jesus wrote: »
    i hate physics really dont want to do it!!at least it will be the only thing i will have to do a decent bit of study for!

    If you believe this, you'll believe anything :) Leaving Biology and Chemistry are a start, but it gets more complicated...fast!


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    Homicidal_jesus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Homicidal_jesus


    Gemma Dirty Sagebrush wrote: »
    If you believe this, you'll believe anything :) Leaving Biology and Chemistry are a start, but it gets more complicated...fast!

    i no i just wont have to study them as hard as i have a liking of the subjects and it comes naturally to me


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    liberal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭liberal


    To once and for all cleart things up for those who want to do Biomed!

    selection for biomed is based on overall 1st year results average

    20 people take the biomed feeder stream in 2nd year, you can also go into biochem, micro, physiology and neuro from this stream if you dont make the cut or if you dont like it

    of this 20, 10 of them are taken into 3rd year..based on results average again

    in 3rd year you mix with 20 people from 4th year CIT.. making a class of 30

    your results from 3rd and 4th year are combined to get your final average (you may dop 15 credits ie 3 modules that you did worst in)

    now with your degree you must seek 6 months internship with a hospital medical laboratory, selection is based on your final average

    CUH haematology lab being one of the most popular so im told

    you must pass exams set and corrected by the HSE to be accrediated and allowed to practice as a Biomedical Scientist

    95% of graduates work in labs, 5% research, i would imagine that a sizible number go for graduate entry medicine too


    good luck


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    liberal
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    Gemma Dirty Sagebrush wrote: »
    Even those who did physics for the LC may struggle with the first year physics in this course - but it's well worth making the effort because it will effect overall marks.
    Attend as many lectures as you can - if you slack in physics particularly, you'll find it hard to get back. If you haven't studied physics before and have trouble with it, get the physics LC book cheap and use that to get your bearings before tackling the more advanced stuff.
    Same goes with the Biology and Chemistry -- if you haven't done them before, then the LC books are a good starting point IF you get lost.

    Attend ALL your labs and tutorials. They are great for getting to know your class and very interesting.



    If you believe this, you'll believe anything :) Leaving Biology and Chemistry are a start, but it gets more complicated...fast!

    thats some decent advice

    the only thing that i would say is easy is the maths, use it to get ur average up!


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    notnormal
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭notnormal


    You can no longer do Biomedical Science out of CK402, it had a separate CAO code this year, and you're a student of CIT when you do it.


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    EugeneOnegin
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    notnormal wrote: »
    You can no longer do Biomedical Science out of CK402, it had a separate CAO code this year, and you're a student of CIT when you do it.

    Actually it's a CR code to Biomedical Sciences but the course is still a joint programme between the two institutes. Students already in CK402 can still opt for Biomedical Sciences but it's just that incoming students to CK402 can not choose Biomedical Sciences stream for their degree.


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    #24
    booksscience
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    Hey, I have some books that would suit this course if anyones interested?
    They're in good condition and would sell for good price.
    Have a General Biology book, General chemistry and 2 Microbiology books.


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    booksscience
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    Hey, I have some books that would suit this course if anyones interested?
    They're in good condition and would sell for good price.
    Have a General Biology book, General chemistry and 2 Microbiology books.


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    #26
    Homicidal_jesus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Homicidal_jesus


    so if anyone on here is in 1st year biochem what do ye think of it so far?


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    flo8s967qjh0nd
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    Did this course a few years back.
    How are people finding it this year?


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    Jeebus
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    Most of my mates are doing it.

    General consensus is that its a piece of piss (thus far) except for the physics, which is easy at the moment, but they can all see it getting challenging as the year goes on.

    ATM I'm helping my friends with it since I got in A2 in the LC, and I'd find it very easy tbh. Most people doing the course don't have physics though, I would imagine !


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    TEMPLAR KNIGHT
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    hi everyone sorry for digging up an old thread but im thinking about doing this course this year im currently on a year out after doing my LC, but I just want to ask what people what do they think of this course is it very difficult? ( I didnt do chem or biology for my LC but i got a B1 in honours physics).
    What are the hours like a week for labs tuts and lectures etc? I also did pass maths for my leaving and got an A2 would I find the maths in the course very difficult? thanks for reading and any other advice would be great!


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    twiterlow
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    you wouldn't be able to do it unless you have two science subjects done, just physics alone wont be enough. i got on alright when i did chem and physics a lot of people struggled with chem and physics in 1st year, even though i went into physiology without doing biology for the leaving so u never know. Did u do ag science by any chance as well?


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    Papa_Lazarou
    Registered Users Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭Papa_Lazarou


    TEMPLAR KNIGHT wrote: »
    hi everyone sorry for digging up an old thread but im thinking about doing this course this year im currently on a year out after doing my LC, but I just want to ask what people what do they think of this course is it very difficult? ( I didnt do chem or biology for my LC but i got a B1 in honours physics).
    What are the hours like a week for labs tuts and lectures etc? I also did pass maths for my leaving and got an A2 would I find the maths in the course very difficult? thanks for reading and any other advice would be great!



    Yeah i think if i remember correctly you have to have to have two science subjects for this course. Im hopefully going into 3rd year :p of it next year year. I found first year pretty alright apart from physics as i hadn't done it in the LC but just keep your head down and you should be alright. I must say the hours are quite demanding due to the number of labs and classes you have but in the end it is worth it all.

    The basics maths is pretty ok and the applied maths is a small bit more difficult but once you keep on top of the material given you should be ok(i also dropped down to pass maths two months before the LC)
    In first year you will have your obligatory classes and tutorials but will also be given the choice of PAL sessions(you will hear more about these when you enter) I strongly advise that you do these PAL sessions are they are a huge resource for when you are doing exams.

    IN first year depending on where your name appears on the roster you could have three days where you are on 9-5 with a few breaks in between and on the two other days have maybe 9/10 til 2 with maybe tutorials at 3 for either of the subjects.


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