Voting Cards

SineadLewis · 30-09-2009 10:22am #1

Just got my voting card uesterday.

What a farce, the voting card is attached to a propaganda booklet. What is this coming too when even the voting card itself is attached to a load of pro Lisbon rhetoric?

Absolute disgrace.

And before anyone chirps in about "informing the people", if you're not informed after two years of this, you never will be.

NO TO LISBON.

Sam Vimes · 30-09-2009 10:24am

What is this rhetoric? I haven't looked at mine but from what I've heard it's just the change that will be made to the constitution if the vote passes

marco_polo · 30-09-2009 10:27am

SineadLewis wrote: »

Just got my voting card uesterday.

What a farce, the voting card is attached to a propaganda booklet. What is this coming too when even the voting card itself is attached to a load of pro Lisbon rhetoric?

Absolute disgrace.

And before anyone chirps in about "informing the people", if you're not informed after two years of this, you never will be.

NO TO LISBON.

LOL

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The only thing attached to the polling card is the text of the amendment that will be inserted into the constitution in the event of a yes vote. :rolleyes:

Telling people exactly what they are voting on is propeganda now is it?

SineadLewis · 30-09-2009 10:29am

Correct, and has the vote passed yet????????????????

Just send me the voting card on its own. I don't need anything else with it.

Sam Vimes · 30-09-2009 10:32am

SineadLewis wrote: »

Correct, and has the vote passed yet????????????????

Just send me the voting card on its own. I don't need anything else with it.

Maybe you don't but you are not everyone in the country. What is the big problem with being told exactly what changes will be made to the constitution if the vote passes? How is that "propaganda"?

marco_polo · 30-09-2009 10:33am

SineadLewis wrote: »

Correct, and has the vote passed yet????????????????

Just send me the voting card on its own. I don't need anything else with it.

I personally think it is a great idea to tell people what the question is before voting. Thats just me though.

Or would you prefer to vote yes or no first, and then be told what the toipic was?

PopeBuckfastXVI · 30-09-2009 10:40am

Hmm...

Would you like a cup of tea? The tea will be a little milky with one and a half sugars.

STOP THE PRO TEA PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111eleven

humanji · 30-09-2009 10:41am

This is truly the most bizarre thread I've seen about the treaty. People shouldn't be told why they're having a referendom? Seriously?

Euro_Kraut · 30-09-2009 10:42am

SineadLewis wrote: »

What a farce, the voting card is attached to a propaganda booklet. What is this coming too when even the voting card itself is attached to a load of pro Lisbon rhetoric?

What part of the text do you regard as propaganda?

K-9 · 30-09-2009 10:59am

So if you are signing a complicated contract for purchasing a house, you would ignore the Solictors advice and not sign it. OK

panda100 · 30-09-2009 12:01pm

On polling cards I always get two, one to my home in Limerick and one to my Dublin address?
Would I be able to vote twice? Im not going to but Im sure there are lots of people that can get away with this.

Diom · 30-09-2009 12:02pm

This is the funniest thread I have seen in a long while.

ei.sdraob · 30-09-2009 12:05pm

Diom wrote: »

This is the funniest thread I have seen in a long while.

I think its the saddest thread I have seen in a long while.

i fear for this country

Fuhrer · 30-09-2009 12:09pm

SineadLewis wrote: »

Just got my voting card uesterday.

What a farce, the voting card is attached to a propaganda booklet. What is this coming too when even the voting card itself is attached to a load of pro Lisbon rhetoric?

Absolute disgrace.

And before anyone chirps in about "informing the people", if you're not informed after two years of this, you never will be.

NO TO LISBON.

The Fuhrer also dislikes people knowing what they're voting for.

Stark · 30-09-2009 12:22pm

marco_polo wrote: »

LOL .

The only thing attached to the polling card is the text of the amendment that will be inserted into the constitution in the event of a yes vote. :rolleyes:

Telling people exactly what they are voting on is propeganda now is it?

Seems the No campaigners would prefer people didn't know what they were voting on. Knowledge is bias!

Fuhrer · 30-09-2009 12:23pm

Stark wrote: »

Seems the No campaigners would prefer people didn't know what they were voting on. Knowledge is bias!

Being informed is just another way of being brainwashed!

Daftendirekt · 30-09-2009 12:27pm

The OP makes a very good point.

Sure, the booklet seems to tell you what you'll be voting on. But does it tell you that we'll all be enslaved by the Illuminati if we vote yes?!

Vote no!

Euro_Kraut · 30-09-2009 12:32pm

ei.sdraob wrote: »

I think its the saddest thread I have seen in a long while.

i fear for this country

On the back of one thread that no one so far has agreed with? There has always been people in our society that take extremly divergent views to the rest of us.

The OP is classic example. She views the infomation as propaganda will almost everyone else sees it as nothing more than a dull legal text that explain what exaclty will be inserted into the consitution. Such people have always existed. Prehaps we were never truely aware of this and the internet has brought them light. I wouldn't loose to much sleep over it though.

cornbb · 30-09-2009 12:42pm

This OP was such a facepalm moment that I actually laughed out loud. Dear God...

meglome · 30-09-2009 1:42pm

cornbb wrote: »

This OP was such a facepalm moment that I actually laughed out loud. Dear God...

Which assumes of course that this isn't yet another person with multiple logins who knows well they are talking rubbish.

FruitLover · 30-09-2009 2:47pm

SineadLewis wrote: »

if you're not informed after two years of this, you never will be.

I agree, if you still haven't bothered informing yourself after two years of this, there's no hope for you :rolleyes:

cornbb · 30-09-2009 2:56pm

I guess that, for some people, if a document doesn't at least contain the words "abortion", "turkey", "minimum wage", "elite" or "minions of a European superstate" that must mean its pro-Lisbon propoganda.

30-09-2009 4:02pm

cornbb wrote: »

I guess that, for some people, if a document doesn't at least contain the words "abortion", "turkey", "minimum wage", "elite" or "minions of a European superstate" that must mean its pro-Lisbon propoganda.

you forgot euthanasia administered by same sex couples. or something

moogester · 30-09-2009 4:18pm

Ireland is in a highly unusual situation in our increasingly globalised world, in not allowing the majority of its overseas citizens any say in the political process.

There is no law against Irish abroad voting, there is simply no law to facilitate it. The voting procedure for citizens living abroad is easy - you fly home to do it.

For the Irish living in the UK and continental Europe and who are still legally resident in Ireland, voting is a possibility, albeit an expensive and somewhat inconvenient one.

Most simply can't afford the time or the plane ticket to do it.

Red Sleeping Beauty · 30-09-2009 4:44pm

One post on this forum I saw recently was that because Ireland's slightly relaxed citizenship and nationality law allows people with grandparents to become Irish citizens, then there'd be far too many Irish "citizens" who've never lived here eligble to vote.

The UK has a fully integrated postal voting system that anyone can use. Ireland has a complex tight system where you've to apply and wait to be accepted for a postal vote.

P. Breathnach · 30-09-2009 5:30pm

moogester wrote: »

Ireland is in a highly unusual situation in our increasingly globalised world, in not allowing the majority of its overseas citizens any say in the political process.

There is no law against Irish abroad voting, there is simply no law to facilitate it. The voting procedure for citizens living abroad is easy - you fly home to do it.

For the Irish living in the UK and continental Europe and who are still legally resident in Ireland, voting is a possibility, albeit an expensive and somewhat inconvenient one.

Most simply can't afford the time or the plane ticket to do it.

No way do I want people who live outside Ireland, some of whom have never lived here, to decide things for those of us who live here. I would relent if they paid their taxes here. No representation without taxation.

Do our tax exiles who maintain homes here have a vote?

Red Sleeping Beauty · 30-09-2009 8:53pm

P. Breathnach wrote: »

No way do I want people who live outside Ireland, some of whom have never lived here, to decide things for those of us who live here. I would relent if they paid their taxes here. No representation without taxation.

Do our tax exiles who maintain homes here have a vote?

Are you referring to the people who live outside the country for a hundred and something days a year to avoid paying tax ? Well if they're still Irish citizens, are still on the register and make it to their designated polling station on Friday then yeah I'd imagine they will have a vote waiting for them.

I'd love to know how many of the CEOs pushing for a yes vote avail of that lucrative tax break.

SineadLewis · 02-10-2009 12:37pm

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1001/1224255613265.html

Seems I am not the only one unhappy with this propaganda farce.

Funglegunk · 02-10-2009 12:45pm

SineadLewis wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1001/1224255613265.html

Seems I am not the only one unhappy with this propaganda farce.

And where is the voting booklet mentioned as being 'propaganda' in that article...?

SineadLewis · 02-10-2009 12:47pm

Funglegunk wrote: »

And where is the voting booklet mentioned as being 'propaganda' in that article...?

and who said it was mentioned?

Are you one of these new ireland people, anything in the name of "progress".

Funglegunk · 02-10-2009 12:59pm

SineadLewis wrote: »

and who said it was mentioned?".

That article is about some constituents ringing up their local TD about not receiving their polling cards... and here is what you said:

Seems I am not the only one unhappy with this propaganda farce.

How is that article in any way relevant to a 'propaganda farce'?

SineadLewis wrote: »

Are you one of these new ireland people, anything in the name of "progress".

Ok, now you've lost me....

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