Where are America now?

Warper · 23-02-2011 1:19pm #1

Where are America now? With all the unrest going on in the Middle East with Gaddifi threatening to cleanse every household if they do no succumb to his will, there isnt a peep out of America. They are allies with most of the dictators in the oil rich region so they turn a blind eye when something does not suit them. Hypocritical war-machine America who only invade other countries when they have something to gain financially.

chin_grin · 23-02-2011 1:20pm

How do I shot web?

brummytom · 23-02-2011 1:22pm

Well according to this, they're working on a new album

ejmaztec · 23-02-2011 1:23pm

Warper wrote: »

Where are America now? With all the unrest going on in the Middle East with Gaddifi threatening to cleanse every household if they do no succumb to his will, there isnt a peep out of America. They are allies with most of the dictators in the oil rich region so they turn a blind eye when something does not suit them. Hypocritical war-machine America who only invade other countries when they have something to gain financially.

I thought that was Barry Scott

dilallio · 23-02-2011 1:25pm

Warper wrote: »

Where are America now? With all the unrest going on in the Middle East with Gaddifi threatening to cleanse every household if they do no succumb to his will......

Gadaffi is in AFRICA.

Penn · 23-02-2011 1:25pm

You do realise that Team America: World Police was only partly based on fact, don't you?

MrStuffins · 23-02-2011 1:26pm

America!!

F*CK YEAH!!!!

MrStuffins · 23-02-2011 1:27pm

By the way, you asked a question, you answered it, now go back to sleep!

sink · 23-02-2011 1:27pm

Warper wrote: »

Where are America now? With all the unrest going on in the Middle East with Gaddifi threatening to cleanse every household if they do no succumb to his will, there isnt a peep out of America. They are allies with most of the dictators in the oil rich region so they turn a blind eye when something does not suit them. Hypocritical war-machine America who only invade other countries when they have something to gain financially.

Gaddafi is not Mubarak. Gaddafi and the US hate each other. Regan even bombed Libya in 86 and Gadaffi was behind many terrorist attacks on the US including the Lockerbie bombing in which many US citizens were killed. The US has condemned the violence and is probably going to support sanctions in the UNSC. What more can they really do short of declaring war?

smk89 · 23-02-2011 1:29pm

It really says alot about our education system if you cant find America. Or realise that countries stay in the same place

chin_grin · 23-02-2011 1:30pm

sink wrote: »

Gaddafi is not Mubarak. Gaddafi and the US hate each other. Regan even bombed Libya in 86 and Gadaffi was behind many terrorist attacks on the US including the Lockerbie bombing in which many US citizens were killed. The US has condemned the violence and is probably going to support sanctions in the UNSC. What more can they really do short of declaring war?

So................what you're telling me is.................the butler did it?

ejmaztec · 23-02-2011 1:30pm

dilallio wrote: »

Gadaffi is in AFRICA.

He's talking about Gadiffi.

chin_grin · 23-02-2011 1:33pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

He's talking about Gadiffi.

I Gadiffi-ling he was.

<.........I know>

AnonoBoy · 23-02-2011 1:35pm

A couple of thousand miles west of us I'd imagine unless continental drift has gone mental over night.

23-02-2011 1:37pm

Simple. They're busy in Iraq.

If Bush hadn't come on his wargasm early, the US military could have been sent in as heroes and strung Gadaffi up.

It's Bush's fault. He dicked with the wrong dictator.

Sanjuro · 23-02-2011 1:47pm

sink wrote: »

The US has condemned the violence and is probably going to support sanctions in the UNSC.

Ah, the UN. One of the most useless organisations on the planet.

Iwasfrozen · 23-02-2011 1:56pm

Sanjuro wrote: »

Ah, the UN. One of the most useless organisations on the planet.

:eek:

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Sanjuro · 23-02-2011 2:01pm

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

:eek:??

The UN will cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what’s to be done with this Muammar Gadaffi?

But at the end of the day, everything the UN has done in the past in terms of Libya has been useless. Gadaffi has ignored everything they've said. And at the end of the day, they're shackled by the fact that the US has the most power in the UN. Whatever they say goes. Therefore, the UN is useless.

Iwasfrozen · 23-02-2011 2:08pm

Sanjuro wrote: »

The UN will cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what’s to be done with this Muammar Gadaffi?

But at the end of the day, everything the UN has done in the past in terms of Libya has been useless. Gadaffi has ignored everything they've said. And at the end of the day, they're shackled by the fact that the US has the most power in the UN. Whatever they say goes. Therefore, the UN is useless.

The UN isn't useless and the US has no more power then any other security council member like the UK.

And the UN can't do anything because it has to respect members sovereignties.

FlutterinBantam · 23-02-2011 2:30pm

Warper wrote: »

Where are America now? With all the unrest going on in the Middle East with Gaddifi threatening to cleanse every household if they do no succumb to his will, there isnt a peep out of America. They are allies with most of the dictators in the oil rich region so they turn a blind eye when something does not suit them. Hypocritical war-machine America who only invade other countries when they have something to gain financially.

Where are your lads?

The do-gooders and the crusties who eschew every cause and criticise big time?

Time they did something isn't it.?

Mark200 · 23-02-2011 3:35pm

Perhaps they're learning from the mistakes of previous administrations and not just going to launch themselves into something that, in reality, is none of their business.

Obviously the international community should be whatever they can to stop what's going on, but it's not for America to make unilateral decisions.

Freddie59 · 23-02-2011 3:37pm

Warper wrote: »

Where are America now? With all the unrest going on in the Middle East with Gaddifi threatening to cleanse every household if they do no succumb to his will, there isnt a peep out of America. They are allies with most of the dictators in the oil rich region so they turn a blind eye when something does not suit them. Hypocritical war-machine America who only invade other countries when they have something to gain financially.

I must to admit to a chuckle when I read this. Usual story. America does something - they're warmongerers. America does nothing and everyone wants them to go in. Some things never change. Ever.

the groutch · 23-02-2011 3:39pm

The Americans only get involved if there's enough oil in it for them

jackiebaron · 23-02-2011 3:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Simple. They're busy in Iraq.

If Bush hadn't come on his wargasm early, the US military could have been sent in as heroes and strung Gadaffi up.

It's Bush's fault. He dicked with the wrong dictator.

Why would they string him up? They support him now. They only vilified him when he refused to open up his economy to US markets (like Iran, North Korea and Venezuela) in the 1980's. But since then Clinton got him to let US companies into Libya so now they love him even if he is still a brutal bastard who crushes his people.

Gordon Gecko · 23-02-2011 3:53pm

Warper wrote: »

Where are America now? With all the unrest going on in the Middle East with Gaddifi threatening to cleanse every household if they do no succumb to his will, there isnt a peep out of America. They are allies with most of the dictators in the oil rich region so they turn a blind eye when something does not suit them. Hypocritical war-machine America who only invade other countries when they have something to gain financially.

Cut the bullsh** do you think invading Afghanistan or Iraq actually made them any money? If they went in and took out Gaddafi they'd unite the middle east and north africa against them. Not to mention play into the hands of Islamic extremists who are looking to take power in Libya. Letting things ride for the minute is the smart move.

And @ the groutch: Enough of the pinko crap please! I don't have the time or the energy to lecture you and all the cretins out there who seem to think every war the US fights is a matter of securing oil

23-02-2011 3:57pm

That was easy. Give me a harder one next time.

Sticky_Fingers · 23-02-2011 3:59pm

the groutch wrote: »

The Americans only get involved if there's enough oil in it for them

Well considering Libya is the 12th largest oil producer in the world at the moment, producing light sweet crude which is apparently the most valuable kind. Also much of Libya still needs to be explored for oil so the true extent of their resources is expected to be enormous. I would think that would be a good enough incentive for anyone.

chucken1 · 23-02-2011 4:11pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That was easy. Give me a harder one next time.

Where did I leave my glasses?

Rented Mule · 23-02-2011 4:14pm

Warper wrote: »

Where are America now? With all the unrest going on in the Middle East with Gaddifi threatening to cleanse every household if they do no succumb to his will, there isnt a peep out of America. They are allies with most of the dictators in the oil rich region so they turn a blind eye when something does not suit them. Hypocritical war-machine America who only invade other countries when they have something to gain financially.

Gaddafi has been rather well behaved since the USA put a cruise missile through his window in April 1986. I would never consider him to be an ally.

As a matter of fact American's are not even allowed/welcome to enter Libya, but I guess the facts kind of get in the way of generalizations.

RMD · 23-02-2011 5:00pm

1. Libya is the twelfth largest oil producing country worldwide with most of their oil produce being the lighter shorter chain molecules which have the greatest demand and economic return so they would be a viable country to invade for oil.

2. The west doesn't like Gaddafi, he's been responsible for a lot of crap including funding the Black September Movement, supporting the PLO, providing arms to the PIRA and being pretty close to the Soviets during the Cold war. He hasn't done much in the previous 2 decades to warm relations either, he's still viewed as a leader to be wary of.

3. America is currently tied up in Afghanistan and Iraq which they're trying to pull out of essentially, considering Obama's policy on war how do you think the American public will respond to another war / invasion? Considering there's been just short of 6,000 American military deaths in Iraq / Afghanistan do you think the Americans want to rush into another war.

4. America has lost enough support worldwide with it's actions in Iraq / Afghanistan, another war will hurt their support yet again. Not to mention invading Libya will be another propoganda victory for Islamic fundamentalists meaning waves of new recruits. Last thing the west needs.

So ye, there's plenty of reasons why America wont invade Libya, do a bit of research next time, it's not hard.

jackiebaron · 23-02-2011 5:09pm

RMD wrote: »

1. Libya is the twelfth largest oil producing country worldwide with most of their oil produce being the lighter shorter chain molecules which have the greatest demand and economic return so they would be a viable country to invade for oil.

2. The west doesn't like Gaddafi, he's been responsible for a lot of crap including funding the Black September Movement, supporting the PLO, providing arms to the PIRA and being pretty close to the Soviets during the Cold war. He hasn't done much in the previous 2 decades to warm relations either, he's still viewed as a leader to be wary of.

3. America is currently tied up in Afghanistan and Iraq which they're trying to pull out of essentially, considering Obama's policy on war how do you think the American public will respond to another war / invasion? Considering there's been just short of 6,000 American military deaths in Iraq / Afghanistan do you think the Americans want to rush into another war.

4. America has lost enough support worldwide with it's actions in Iraq / Afghanistan, another war will hurt their support yet again. Not to mention invading Libya will be another propoganda victory for Islamic fundamentalists meaning waves of new recruits. Last thing the west needs.

So ye, there's plenty of reasons why America wont invade Libya, do a bit of research next time, it's not hard.

The US are keeping shtum on this because they don't know what to say or do. They can't come out and denounce him because they support him and have done so for the last decade. They can't voice support for him because that would fly in the face of all the bullsh1t they always spout about democracy and liberty and all that other freedom hogwash.

An adept survivor, Gaddafi came onside in the “War on Terror” after the 9/11 attacks, prompting the most miserably transparent examples of hypocrisy on the part of Western nations, as their leaders queued up to welcome the former pariah as an ally, and barely managed to disguise their excitement at having access to Libya’s rich oil reserves. And governments in Washington and London have been eager to rebrand Libyan exiles in their countries as "enemy combatants" at Ghadaffi's behest and fcuk them into Guantanamo.

Where are America now?

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