Liverpool Snap Up Kewell!!

marct · 08-07-2003 4:07pm

Originally posted by kmart6
Its great for ye all to be saying that but isnt it such a shame that they cant reach a transfer fee for Kewell.Anyway it would be a stupid choice to join Liverpool when your getting offers from Man Utd and Arsenal its not kike Liverpool wil ever win the Premership

Ah wake up will ya!:mad: The fee has been decided they are discussing how it will be paid. An interview has already been recorded for Australian TV where he discusses the transfer. He said that he will be playing for his boyhood heroes and the Leeds board said that the offer that won the deal wasnt even in the top two they received. While I will be much more comfortable when I see him in a jersey, its pretty much a done deal. So take Wolf and Pornapster and enjoy your sour grapes!!:p

smuckers · 08-07-2003 4:13pm

In response to Bannor Nesta, etc are what the press say not Claudio, I'm just took the piss out of the press above if you look.

StickyMcGinty · 08-07-2003 7:23pm

The deal is delayed bacause Kewell is due a "loyalty fee" for not requesting to leave Leeds and and having a year left on his contract. its between leeds and kewell, nothing to do with Liverpool!!

I love this jelousy thats setting in. you can smell united bricking it already!!

Wolf, 50cent and the like: united need a big player or you can expect to finish behind the top 3

Ronan|Raven · 08-07-2003 8:26pm

Originally posted by VinnyL

I love this jelousy thats setting in. you can smell united bricking it already!!

Wolf, 50cent and the like: united need a big player or you can expect to finish behind the top 3

Even If united dont get a "big name" player they are still gona push hard for the title again, they still have a very good squad minus Beckham.

50Cent · 08-07-2003 9:20pm

Kewell signing for Liverpool will really help them out. They wont win the league or come close. Expect to come about 5'th if your lucky.

kdevitt · 08-07-2003 9:28pm

50Cent - in response to your sarcasm, Liverpool have simply lacked width in the last few seasons, although it didn't stop us from making your fullbacks look like the mediocrity they are in the league cup final...our defense and midfield have generally been consistently sound.

if you're going to post something, at least let is be sensible - I think most people would agree that signing one of the premierships best wingers is a good response to lack of width... Don't forget either that Utd finished below us the season before last.

50Cent · 08-07-2003 9:35pm

Kewell is no doubt one of the best wingers in the Premiership when he feels like it...but having said that, he is no Duff.

Anyway, getting back on what i said earlier, I think he will really help Liverpool out. Expect to come at least 5'th. Hey at least you will be in the Chamions league...for about a week.

Mountjoy Mugger · 08-07-2003 9:35pm

Originally posted by VinnyL
The deal is delayed bacause Kewell is due a "loyalty fee" for not requesting to leave Leeds and and having a year left on his contract. its between leeds and kewell, nothing to do with Liverpool!!

Loyalty fee, my arse. He admits to have been negotiating with the pool for the last 6 months. WTF should he be paid a loyalty fee?

kdevitt · 08-07-2003 9:44pm

eh... Leed offered Kewell (along with Nigel Martyn) to Liverpool at the turn of the year... hardly behind they're backs, eh??? Liverpool didnt want to pay 9 million, so held onto now...

Personally would prefer Kewell to Duff, but since word is that we'll have both I'm not overly concerned...

I suppose you're right on the Champions League point though 50c... must be great to support a team who are so consistently successful in the competition??

As i said previously, if you're not going to post something sensible, then I wouldnt bother...

50Cent · 08-07-2003 9:48pm

but since word is that we'll have both I'm not overly concerned...

Keep on dreaming...

Ye it is good to have a team consistently getting to the quarter finals but obviosuly not good enough...

Kewell better than Duff? You must be out of your ****ing mind...

Wolf · 08-07-2003 9:55pm

Originally posted by kdevitt
Liverpool & Leeds are still discussing how the payments should be made...the interview got held back because of it, the stock market must be informed first ...

Should be no biggie... with the other players being signed I honestly reckon we'll be top 2... hopefully top 1

LOL My Ass.

If Liverpool do spend the reported 16 mil on him they can afford **** all else.

Even if they do get him they still need another 4/5 top class players to even compete at the top and to ditch 4/5 to balance the books.

Also, there is a very good chance that this will fall thro. I have it on reasonably good information that Liverpool will NOT be able to buy ANYONE else big if this deal does go thro.

kdevitt · 08-07-2003 10:02pm

Ye it is good to have a team consistently getting to the quarter finals but obviosuly not good enough...

You're happy to get knocked out in the quarter finals of a competion?? Excellent...you might want to get used to it

Ferguson has started throwing ridiculous amounts of cash at the likes of Ferdinand, and now 33m for Jar Jar Binks??

- as I said, I think Kewell is better than Duff, Duff peaked at the end of last season, had a good world cup as well, but had average patches in between... will still be happy to see him in a Pool jersey... either way, I think you're letting the green eyed monster get in the way of good judgement.

I'm not interested in having a slagging match against you, start a thread on 'Why my team is better than your team' and I'm sure you'll heat a nice heated debate..

night night

50Cent · 08-07-2003 10:06pm

33m for Jar Jar Binks??

Is that what your "contacts" told ya?

:rolleyes:

Who slagged who? I never slagged you...

I think you cant handle that Pool aint gonna win the league.

Duff is a better player than Kewell. Thats obvious.

Your Liverpool remember? You cant afford Duff and Kewell...

kdevitt · 08-07-2003 10:08pm

wolf - you're talking ****e - seems to be the norm from you from what I've seen of your threads... Liverpool have plenty of cash to spend, and about 5 players are moving on as you mentioned

Please explain how Liverpool need 4 or 5 top class players - ???

:rolleyes:

Anyhoo...why don''t you join in on the 'Why my team is better than your team' thread with 50c...

kdevitt · 08-07-2003 10:11pm

sorry to have to explain - 50c - slagging match = 'Why my team is better than your team' - get it??

please tell me yourself and wolf boy and under the age of 15..

Duff is a better player than Kewell. Thats obvious.

yeah , obvious...

50Cent · 08-07-2003 10:15pm

Please explain how Liverpool need 4 or 5 top class players - ???

Emmm...cos Liverpool are ****e.they finished outside of Champos spot. Poor Michael Owen...the prodigy of your team

Anyhoo...why don''t you join in on the 'Why my team is better than your team' thread with 50c...

Its all in your head...

sorry to have to explain - 50c - slagging match = 'Why my team is better than your team' - get it??

Well your clearly retarded if you think i would have to open a thread to proove that. Get it?

Duff is a better player than Kewell...

mike65 · 08-07-2003 10:29pm

Will you all stop throwing your toys around the room! :mad:

NOW!

Mike.

Wolf · 08-07-2003 11:11pm

Originally posted by kdevitt
wolf - you're talking ****e - seems to be the norm from you from what I've seen of your threads... Liverpool have plenty of cash to spend, and about 5 players are moving on as you mentioned

Please explain how Liverpool need 4 or 5 top class players - ???

:rolleyes:

Anyhoo...why don''t you join in on the 'Why my team is better than your team' thread with 50c...

Well Ill explain so, seen as you asked so nicely.

Well, up front you have Micheal Owen (whose been well off form anyway, but will come good im very sure) and..... err Heskey yeah.... yeah right. In midfield you have Kewell (maybe we'll see) and Gerrard and no one else. At the back, well you have One superb centre back and another that after his first season has failed to shine. You have bought Finnan (great signing) but you still need a quality left back.

Now I have said that and still not mentioned about how you need to find cover players as well.

Now I know you going to come back quoting that players like Diouf, Diao and that other French piss artist thats played outa position at the back, along with Murphy and a few others but they aren't of the same class of the players playing in teams above them.

If you read some of the other posts on the soccer forum you will realize that most of the other informed Liverpool fans can see that, while im not saying that Liverpool are terriable, its still true that for them to finish in the top 4 would be a massive achivement and a big surprize.

PS
I cant wait to drag this post back up at the end of the season

Space Coyote · 09-07-2003 1:19am

Lads, the bottom line is that with Kewell, Liverpool are going to vastly improve on last season. More goals, more points and more consistency. There will be more confidence instilled in the current midfielders and forwards, due to HK's natural creativity and ability. Man U are still the team to beat (in the league) but the loss of Becks will affect their general play more than people think imho. Still think yis'll win the league though. With the Pool a close 2nd.

Wolf · 09-07-2003 1:43am

As long as your saying Liverpool will come second why not just say that Wolves will win the league.

PiE · 09-07-2003 1:52am

Gazing into that Crystal Ball of yours again Wolf?

Really should try and get your money back.

Wolf · 09-07-2003 1:55am

Originally posted by PiE
Gazing into that Crystal Ball of yours again Wolf?

Really should try and get your money back.

And you think that Liverpool will make second? After buying one 1 left winger?

PiE · 09-07-2003 2:04am

I'm not saying they will, I'm not saying they won't.

I will say that they finished 2nd not-so-long ago without ANY real wingers so... meh.

Also, this deal hasn't gone through yet and there could be a few more players come the start of the season.

So like I said, try to return that Ball.

Just noticed this too:

but you still need a quality left back.

So Riise isn't a quality left back now? Wow.

Oh and Baros is more likely to play next season than Heskey. Conveniently forgot that too eh?

50Cent · 09-07-2003 2:48am

Wolf obviously just forgot about Riise.

But everything else he said, id agree with.

Wolf · 09-07-2003 4:07am

Originally posted by PiE
I'm not saying they will, I'm not saying they won't.

I will say that they finished 2nd not-so-long ago without ANY real wingers so... meh.

Also, this deal hasn't gone through yet and there could be a few more players come the start of the season.

So like I said, try to return that Ball.

Just noticed this too:

So Riise isn't a quality left back now? Wow.

Oh and Baros is more likely to play next season than Heskey. Conveniently forgot that too eh?

True I did just pure forget about Riise. Although Baros I kinda forgot on purpose. However, GH has left Baros out in the cold for several seasons for absolutly no good reason and I dont see GH suddenly starting to play him even tho he should.

Also they need rid of a few of the high earning flops before, they can sign more. I also heard that the figure for HK was 16mil and that will leave LIverpool with little or notthing in the Kitty.

p.pete · 09-07-2003 8:59am

Originally posted by Wolf
LOL My Ass.

If Liverpool do spend the reported 16 mil on him they can afford **** all else.

I heard it was 17 mil. So confusing though isn't it - lazy Australians using their own currency to talk about transfers. Very misleading for people not as intelligent as Wolf.

Man U have a lot of youth players that are potentialy about to break into the team. If they prove good then their position will be strong for a while yet. Generaly Fergie is quite good at bringing youths into the team.

I could say the same about Pool having a strong batch of youths but I'm not as convinced of GH's ability to bring them all the way through. Both teams have the finances to buy extra players but generaly it's healthier for a club to at least be able to produce a handful of it's own players.

Liverpool may make up a bit of ground on Arsenal this season. Their team seems to be cracking at the seams but will possibly hold out another year. When they have their act together they're pretty much the best team in the league. Unfortunately for them they didn't hold it together last season and it's less likely this season.

Newcastle and Chelsea have both been making steady progress and will both be there or there abouts this season. Both have bags of money so should the need arise they are in a position to buy good replacements.

Anyway, I'm just rambling (I hope there is a little bit of sense to it). I always start the season thinking that we are going to win it and I've been proved wrong for the last 13 years. It's worth at least one more go, Liverpool for the League:D

jackanorystory · 09-07-2003 9:21am

This is what I see happening - Kewell will play as a second striker and they will still have the same problems as last season. Houllier will not play an adventorous line up- he may start with it but by christmas time the same predictable ways will return.
Kewell has also claimed he doesn't like playing as an out and out winger.

marct · 09-07-2003 9:42am

Wolf, the whole thrust of your 'Liverpool Fiction' thread was that Liverpool were unable to draw the big names anymore.

Kewell is a big name:p And the whole not counting Riise as a quality player is just insane- ask Barthez. Plus you 'heard' the figure for Kewell will be close to 16m, well I think we should take that with the same grain of salt as your previous posts on the subject of Merseysides finest.
As for the whole Duff v Kewell debate, I reckon Duff to be more talented but he has been inconsistent and injured this season whereas Kewell got 16 goals. I would love to see the Duffer in a Pool shirt but wont hold my breath. If we ended up with Kewell, Finnan, Yakin/Basturk and the two French kids I would consider that a very good close season spending.
Just to spark more debate if RVN hadnt taken the penalties for Manu last season he would have finished on less goals for the season than Owen...just a thought

kdevitt · 09-07-2003 9:54am

Houllier is on record as saying Baros will be Owens first choice partner this season (until Cisse comes in) - Kewell hasn't been bought to play up front.

La Tallec & Pongolle are in training now with Liverpool, they have been assigned squad numbers, and are believed to be two of the best players Frances youth system has produced in recent years.

Kewell is joing for 6/7 million depending on who you believe.. 16million may very well be the Aus$ equivalent.

And Kewell will be wearing nr 7 next year aparently... hopefully this means Smicer will finally be shipped out.

Kewells agent also has a letter of authority from Leeds Utd to find him a new club, dating from 6 months back, so no tapping up occurred - therefore Kewell is perfectly entitled to his loyalty fee.

Bannor · 09-07-2003 10:33am

Kewell's agent has said on Sky this morning that the fee is £5M.

The Kewell interview aired on Australian TV this morning - he's going to be the new number 7. I wonder will Vlad be making the trip to Portsmouth?

yop · 09-07-2003 10:46am

Just to spark more debate if RVN hadnt taken the penalties for Manu last season he would have finished on less goals for the season than Owen...just a thought

would actually have finished on the same goals, 17 each, owen scored 2 penalties this season, rvn scored 8

Villain · 09-07-2003 10:47am

Originally posted by Space_Coyote
Lads, the bottom line is that with Kewell, Liverpool are going to vastly improve on last season. More goals, more points and more consistency. There will be more confidence instilled in the current midfielders and forwards, due to HK's natural creativity and ability. Man U are still the team to beat (in the league) but the loss of Becks will affect their general play more than people think imho. Still think yis'll win the league though. With the Pool a close 2nd.

Emm do you remember a team call Arsenal?? cos last time I looked they were the only team a close second to UTD.

Pool will still struggle to be 3rd unless they buy more players, Owen and Gerard are there best players and both injury prone!

Heskey well what can I say ... Donkey maybe.

I think the biggest problem Houiller had last year was not knowing what his best 11 was simply coz there are so many players who out perform themselves then come back to realiity and can't kick the damn ball e.g. Murphy put in some top class displays but also put in some crap displays.

If Houiller had a good starting 11 rather than a medium squad they could challenge.

super_furry · 09-07-2003 11:01am

This is great stuff, the season hasn't even started and United fans are already rattled.

marct · 09-07-2003 11:03am

Yop, its definitely an interesting stat alright. Until I heard that I hadnt been aware of how big a part of RVN's game penos were..

super_furry · 09-07-2003 11:07am

Yop, its definitely an interesting stat alright. Until I heard that I hadnt been aware of how big a part of RVN's game penos were..

It's a huge part of his game, it has to be for any Man Yoo striker. Remember, the last player to score a penalty for the away side in a Premiership match at Old Trafford was Ruel Fox for Norwich back in 1993.

marct · 09-07-2003 11:10am

Irish 1, The Pool had a bad season last year after years of progression but they did finish 2nd the season before last. Any Pool fans who think we will now definitely challenge are not being realistic. But those others who think we definitely wont are being just as short sighted
Could be a very interesting season

Villain · 09-07-2003 11:21am

Originally posted by marct
Irish 1, The Pool had a bad season last year after years of progression but they did finish 2nd the season before last. Any Pool fans who think we will now definitely challenge are not being realistic. But those others who think we definitely wont are being just as short sighted
Could be a very interesting season

So you agree arsenal and utd are still above ye?

yop · 09-07-2003 11:27am

This is great stuff, the season hasn't even started and United fans are already rattled.

explain how u come to this conclusion? If it is based on the same thinking that scouse were going to win the PL last season, then fair enough

marct · 09-07-2003 11:32am

We will have to see about that as the Arse are not looking too healthy at the mo with Pires, Ljungberg et al making rumblings about leaving and some very imprtant contracts being up at the end of next season. And Utd have a rather large Beckham shaped hole to fill. If Utd get Ronaldhino they will be around the same level they were last year, but will have to change the shape of their midfield- which they are more than capable of doing. If they dont, then Fergie had better have a bloody good plan B!:D

Sposs · 09-07-2003 12:15pm

Kewell won't do well at Liverpool he's not a defender

marct · 09-07-2003 12:31pm

LizardKing · 09-07-2003 12:44pm

Its official
http://www.football365.co.uk/All_News/Breaking_News/story_73201.shtml

Kewell won't do well at Liverpool he's not a defender

and Traore has done sooooo well ???

Liverpool F.C Premier League Champions 2004 ww)

Ronan|Raven · 09-07-2003 1:34pm

It is nice to see the deal finally completed but just because we have signed Kewell doest mean we are going to win the league this year. Our style of play badly needs to be altered, we could do with a top class centre back to cover H & H. Another winger would be nice, even nicer if it was Duff but they 2 young french lads may turn out to be a good package if they are given the time, they are both still very young and may be blooded slowly.

Bannor · 09-07-2003 1:59pm

I expect Liverpool to go back to the open attacking football we were playing up until November of last season.

The acquisition of Kewell and Finnan will mean a marked improvement in the attacking play. And neither of the players have to adapt to the pace of the Premiership.

Also Owen won't be doing the weight training to improve his body strength so he should be match sharp at the start of the season.

Baros is supposedly going to be the first choice partner for Owen - we're going for goals from the start of games.

These are all positives for the forthcoming season.

All we need now is for Chelski to realise the Heskey is the ideal replacement for JFH.

jonno · 09-07-2003 2:21pm

It's kinda funny reading thereactions of those posters that were so adament that Liverpool were not in a position to sign big players because they were not in the C.L. Now all of a sudden HK isn't going to make as difference whereas back when he was the subject of transfer speculation involving Utd and Arsenal, he was a great player. Why have they all changed their mind so quickly.

Anyhow, I believe Bannor's prediction will not be far from the truth. Liverpool did play some nice footie at the start of last season and then it all turned pear shaped and GH reverted to as a defensive game. I think the acquisition of the two attacking players in Kewell and Finnan and the fact that he has brought in the two French lads to the squad this season (one of whom is an attacking midfielder and the other a striker) reinforces the idea that Liverpool will be a force in the premiership this season. I'm not saying they will win the PL (although I hope they do) but they won't be the defensive team they were last year. Also i reckon Utd have a strong enough squad as it is to retain the PL - remember the team that brought Utd back into it are still there.

jonno · 09-07-2003 4:45pm

Any Liverpool supporters out there feel that we need more signings this summer. We have two but GH said there would be three or four new players cominng in. I hope he didn't include the two French youngsters in that. My dream signing would be Rafael Van Der Vaart. The lad is a genius on the ball and would be a breath of fresh air alongside Gerrard in midfield. Liverpool were linked with him before and they have good realtions with Ajax. I wonder is there any small posibilty it could happen.

PiE · 09-07-2003 4:55pm

Damn right, if I had the choice of Duff, Kewell & Van Der Vaart I'd still go for VDV. We do still need one or two decent defenders, although I'm slightly relieved that we'll have Carragher as cover instead of Traore/Diao. I'd like to see someone experienced come in, like McAllister did but I can't really think of anyone (except Bergkamp, can't see that happening though). We should try get Kluivert while he's going cheap too ;]

Whatever happens, the 2 signings so far will make a huge difference next season.

p.pete · 09-07-2003 4:57pm

Ajax look like they are gonna sell Chivu to Roma for quite a lot of money, so they probably won't be in the mood to sell more this summer.

To be honest (this will be slated by scum and arse fans, no matter) I would like to see the team as is settling in together and see how far they can go. Probably not strong enough to actually win the league but it would have to be very careful signings to improve the team at the mo.

irishgeo · 09-07-2003 5:02pm

Its finally done and dusted. 5mill plus 2 mill to kewell agents.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N140826030709-1649.htm

Press conference tomorrow to reveal all off the signings, whether that includes Cisse and a another is yet to be seen.

jonno · 09-07-2003 5:23pm

I'm glad that's done and dusted at last. Only thing is I reckon that Liverpools spending this summer is done and dusted too. GH was saying that they will unveil their four new players tomorrow before they meet up in Switzerland for pre-season training. Oh well, we'll just have to see how we got on won't we

Liverpool Snap Up Kewell!!

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