Bar work.

Goldberg · 09-07-2003 1:49am #1

How hard is it to get bar work in inner city Dublin for weekends only and what are the hours and pay like?

Cheers.

damnyanks · 09-07-2003 10:09am

Try harcourt street. Places always seem to be looking there.... pay will probably be fairly bad and hours from 8pm - 4am onwards

fisty · 15-07-2003 11:51am

there are -no- bar jobs in town.
Was talking to the manager of eamonn dorans yesterday.
He said it dire in town at the moment, no tourists, so no service industry jobs...
Everywhere seems to be laying off staff.

damnyanks · 15-07-2003 1:37pm

Maybe thats just ED's I work in town... goto college in town and there seems to be the usual disgusting amount of tourists getting ripped off

You can find bar work, just dont expect it to be a decent wage like most full time bar men.

fisty · 15-07-2003 4:43pm

no actually, theres nothing.
I know a lot of the managers in bars around town and have worked in a few places over the years for extra cash from time to time, there are -no- bar jobs.
And I'm a fully trained barman, not some student fluff.

Goldberg · 24-07-2003 11:46am

So students are automatically referred to as fluff if they are looking for bar work????

Good posting sir.

Sposs · 24-07-2003 12:05pm

Originally posted by fisty
And I'm a fully trained barman, not some student fluff.

How many years did it take for you to learn;

Pump goes down beer comes out
pump goes up beer stops

MadsL · 24-07-2003 11:56pm

Yeah, well one of the main jobskills of being a bartender as opposed to a pint puller is to deal with assholes and drunks. Lots of drunks. Nasty drunks, rude drunks, abusive drunks, slobbering drunks, puking drunks, sleeping drunks. Drunks that won't shut
up, drunks that won't pay for their drinks, drunks that want to fight you and everybody else in the place, and worst of all drunks who are killing themselves by degrees and there isn't anything that anybody can do about it but they sit in front of you night in and night out and you get to help them do it. Dealing with all of that takes a long time to learn, and making just one little mistake can get you badly hurt.

Bartenders deal with them drunks night after night. One of them is probably you on occasion, but as we can't tell how much you've had to drink tonight, let's just mark you down as an asshole.

Sposs · 25-07-2003 9:15am

So your Job is to mind Drunks well done how skilled you must be,if you dont like it get another job.

MadsL · 25-07-2003 9:45am

Sposs, I can see that I have to aim a little lower, my last post clearly went over your head. You probably drink Budweiser so I'll speak slowly. If you haven't the intelligence to see that there is more to being a skilled barman than pulling pints and that the job deserves respect then you are beyond hope. But I see that you are a 'rural chap' and probably have never been in a bar that doesn't sell milk and spuds as well.

Keep pretending people find you funny and you'll be ok.

WhiteWashMan · 25-07-2003 9:51am

Originally posted by MadsL
Yeah, well one of the main jobskills of being a bartender as opposed to a pint puller is to deal with assholes and drunks. Lots of drunks. Nasty drunks, rude drunks, abusive drunks, slobbering drunks, puking drunks, sleeping drunks. Drunks that won't shut
up, drunks that won't pay for their drinks, drunks that want to fight you and everybody else in the place, and worst of all drunks who are killing themselves by degrees and there isn't anything that anybody can do about it but they sit in front of you night in and night out and you get to help them do it. Dealing with all of that takes a long time to learn, and making just one little mistake can get you badly hurt.

Bartenders deal with them drunks night after night. One of them is probably you on occasion, but as we can't tell how much you've had to drink tonight, let's just mark you down as an asshole.

so, youre actually a bouncer?

Sposs · 25-07-2003 9:58am

Originally posted by MadsL
Sposs, I can see that I have to aim a little lower, my last post clearly went over your head. You probably drink Budweiser so I'll speak slowly. If you haven't the intelligence to see that there is more to being a skilled barman than pulling pints and that the job deserves respect then you are beyond hope. But I see that you are a 'rural chap' and probably have never been in a bar that doesn't sell milk and spuds as well.

Keep pretending people find you funny and you'll be ok.

[Country Accent] Well Holy God aren't you all fine and dandy in your big city with your wine and the like,sure aint there nothing wrong with a fine pint of bud with your spuds in the evening,were not all rich bar-men from the the big smoke[/country accent]

MadsL · 25-07-2003 10:01am

There's a lot more to be done with people before you call the muscle to have them fecked out of it. A bit of diplomacy helps sometimes. Or ignoring them until they get really thirsty!

The problem is in this country is that no-one has much respect for bartenders despite the fact that Irish barmen are first class. No respect here means no-one earns good tips, so bartenders don't make that much. In the US a good nightclub bartender with good cocktail experience can top $100,000 a year.

MadsL · 25-07-2003 10:04am

nothing wrong with a fine pint of bud

No, run that by me again. Can't understand it. Nothing wrong with Budweiser hmmmm...just don't get me started.

Sposs · 25-07-2003 10:34am

Originally posted by MadsL
make that much. In the US a good nightclub bartender with good cocktail experience can top $100,000 a year.

**** off to America so.

damnyanks · 25-07-2003 12:04pm

Anyone that works deserves respect, never assume yourself too good for any type of work. Anything can happen , you may need a 3rd job as what you consider the lowest of the low in a couple of years.... or you could be retired after making your mill etc.

WhiteWashMan · 25-07-2003 12:10pm

all right children, pick up your toys and back into your parms please

MadsL · 25-07-2003 12:20pm

I apologise for insulting Budweiser drinkers (they really don't know any better) perhaps Sposs will apologise for dissing all hard-working 'beer-pumpers'.

Sposs · 25-07-2003 12:26pm

I was only ever pulling the piss madsl i've worked in a bar meself

I dont drink Bud btw tastes like piss.

MadsL · 25-07-2003 12:38pm

Damn and there was me thinking that you were a genuine asshole turns out you are just a trolling one...:rolleyes:

WhiteWashMan · 25-07-2003 1:19pm

actually, sposs is a fabricated asshóle, but hes cute and hes cuddly and very eager to please.
hes also sensitive, so please treat him nicely.

MadsL · 25-07-2003 1:24pm

hes cute and hes cuddly and very eager to please.

aww..didumms. Is he old enough to drink?:)

fisty · 25-07-2003 1:30pm

theres more to being properly trained behind a bar than pulling pints.

Although taking the standard of barstaff in ireland into account, I can excuse your ignorance.

Sposs · 25-07-2003 1:34pm

Maybe i enjoy being an ignorant arsehole who trolls.

fisty · 25-07-2003 1:37pm

nuff said.

Sposs · 25-07-2003 1:43pm

Originally posted by fisty
nuff said.

Stop Trolling.

a/s/l

DaithiSurfer · 25-07-2003 1:44pm

I was a barman for about 5 years and i have to say that its the easiest job i have ever done in my life.
I don't believe someone should get a tip for pulling my pint(although when i was a barman i would have thought differently lol), thats their job.
Money was ****e. I have mates still in the trade in Dublin and they are able to find new jobs at will when they feel like a move.
And with the confrontational (a no no for a bar job) attitude of the barman in here i its no wonder he can't get a job lol.

fisty · 25-07-2003 1:49pm

Originally posted by DaithiSurfer
I have mates still in the trade in Dublin and they are able to find new jobs at will when they feel like a move.

Thats another reason I like the work,
also you'll always have a small skill to fall back on for the rest of your life should the **** ever hit the fan.

DaithiSurfer · 25-07-2003 1:54pm

your right there fisty.But i have feeling there will be a lot of barman when the **** hits the fan.
you, me and everyone else that ever worked in a bar will all be looking for the same bar jobs

damnyanks · 25-07-2003 3:38pm

If someone doesnt tip you just steal from the register you idiot :P

MadsL · 25-07-2003 9:53pm

the confrontational (a no no for a bar job) attitude of the barman in here

As a bartender and bar manager I've seen (not Dublin admittedly)

1. A place taken apart by the Russian mafia with baseball bats.
2. A guy getting his face razored.
3. A girl freaking out and throwing jug handled heavy bottomed beer glasses at the bartender.
4. A Ukrainian pickpocket freaking out after getting caught and flashing a butterfly knife in a waitresses face.
5. Same Ukrainian picking a fight with me outside the bar after I barred him.
6. A guy thrown bodily through a plate glass window.
7. Another 'heavy-handed' visit by the Russian mafia.
8. A drunk guy waving a 9mm pistol around in a crowded bar.

Don't tell me;
a) Bartending is easy.
b) Confrontational isn't called for sometimes.

Bar work.

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