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Alcobuds.com - Site Critique Please!

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  • 15-07-2003 11:45am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭


    Hello folks,

    I've just taken this site over in the last 2 months and have done a complete overhaul on its look and sections - the new site is up barely a week - I'd like feedback from Webmasters on the work (good, bad & ugly) - let me know what you think.

    buddy.

    www.alcobuds.com


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,265 ✭✭✭MiCr0


    first though

    too dark - the blue links on a black background are hard to read


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    OK, I'll take that on board, I thought the blue used worked well but will consider changing the shade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭dynamic.ie


    I like the modifications you did to phpBB. Is it a template or you do the graphics yourself?

    The Forum look 100%. Very impressive. I agree about the rest being too dark. You could lighten the blue to stand out more.

    Regards,

    Dave


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    The previous owner had a Template designed for the site which I am keeping - it works well :)

    If the shade of blue for the links is the only bad thing, I'm doing well.

    Thanks guys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Its a decent looking site, but what the heck is the point of it? I have seen some weird stuff on the net, but thats just confusing the bollox out of me lol :confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭peterd


    I thought the "old" design was much better :( Don't know why you changed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭BLITZ_Molloy


    The banner on the top isn't very attractive. Too distorted by jpeg compression and rather plain to start with.

    There isn't enough cellpadding on the news boxes. The text is a bit too crowded on the borders.

    It's a bit slow to load, which is strange considering the simplicity of the site. I think Amazon adverts are a bit of a bastard for doing that though. The whole page has to load before it'll display anything.

    Otherwise, great stuff. I just thought I'd list the negatives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    i find the site too hard on the eyes


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Originally posted by BLITZ_Molloy
    Too distorted by jpeg compression and rather plain to start with

    Yeah i agree, tho this probably cannot be seen on most CRT screens. - oh the wonders of LCD Technology :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Kai


    i think its grand to, the banner at the top is a bit ugly, the on on the top of the forum is neater looking, what about using that instead.
    The forum is quite nice and easy on the eye. the Navigation areas on the side of the main page could do with a bit of improving, maybe try changing the dark blue at the top of each to a graphic of somesort, perhaps blend it in with the banner again. i think that would improve the main page a huge amount.

    Nice site all the same.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Figment


    Home page is UUUgly! Too many reasons. You need a graphic designer.
    Forums look nice though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    You really need a strong logo on which to base your site's identity.
    The content is probably very good, but you have to dig a lot and it isn't very clear what the site is meant to offer.

    The colour scheme could do with some work, but having a good logo would help with that


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
    Its a decent looking site, but what the heck is the point of it? I have seen some weird stuff on the net, but thats just confusing the bollox out of me lol :confused:

    It's a site dedicated to all things Alcohol, Drinking Games, Drink Recipes, Drunken Escapades etc with some nice galleries thrown in also. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    Originally posted by peterd
    I thought the "old" design was much better :( Don't know why you changed it.

    I took it over, there was lots of broken links and I felt it was'nt very well organised.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    Originally posted by BLITZ_Molloy
    The banner on the top isn't very attractive. Too distorted by jpeg compression and rather plain to start with.

    There isn't enough cellpadding on the news boxes. The text is a bit too crowded on the borders.

    It's a bit slow to load, which is strange considering the simplicity of the site. I think Amazon adverts are a bit of a bastard for doing that though. The whole page has to load before it'll display anything.

    Otherwise, great stuff. I just thought I'd list the negatives.

    The banner is just something simple I made up as my graphic designer guy is unavailable - I will be changing the logo.

    I could increase the cell padding to correct that, but after taking another look, I'm happy with it.

    Amazon adverts??? I have a logo for them to click through but no Ad's - that would'nt slow it - and the page is simplistic to ease faster loading - strange how you found it slow.

    Thanks for the feedback :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    Originally posted by Frugu
    i think its grand to, the banner at the top is a bit ugly, the on on the top of the forum is neater looking, what about using that instead.
    The forum is quite nice and easy on the eye. the Navigation areas on the side of the main page could do with a bit of improving, maybe try changing the dark blue at the top of each to a graphic of somesort, perhaps blend it in with the banner again. i think that would improve the main page a huge amount.

    Nice site all the same.

    I tried the banner logo with the new design, did'nt suit - I'll look again but will be changing the logo to soemthing else.

    A background graphic instead of the blue - thats a good idea - I'll look at that. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    Originally posted by blacknight
    You really need a strong logo on which to base your site's identity.
    The content is probably very good, but you have to dig a lot and it isn't very clear what the site is meant to offer.

    The colour scheme could do with some work, but having a good logo would help with that

    I will be getting a stronger logo when my designer becomes available again - I like the colour scheme as it is & know that not everyone will agree.

    How do I clear up the problem about what the site is about? A page - an box at the top where the news boxes are?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭JOOROWNED


    Originally posted by buddy
    I took it over, there was lots of broken links and I felt it was'nt very well organised.


    OH REALLY !!! thats very interesting to read ....


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    Originally posted by buddy
    I will be getting a stronger logo when my designer becomes available again - I like the colour scheme as it is & know that not everyone will agree.

    How do I clear up the problem about what the site is about? A page - an box at the top where the news boxes are?

    You should have a look at other sites. See how they establish a clear identity etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    I think we've established a good identity, but do we need an About Us page?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Figment


    My first thought was that it was another gamer clan site (I don't play games so its not like my brain automaticly thinks like that) then after reading for 5 mins I hadn't a clue what the site was about. It looks cheep, confused and amateurish. That's not a good identity. The about us page is the very least you can do.
    I don't mean to be too harsh (you did ask) but if you want the site to succeed you should not dismiss this. You seem to do a lot of work on the content, it would be a shame if it got dismissed out of hand by confused visitors to the site.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    Originally posted by Figment
    My first thought was that it was another gamer clan site (I don't play games so its not like my brain automaticly thinks like that) then after reading for 5 mins I hadn't a clue what the site was about. It looks cheep, confused and amateurish. That's not a good identity. The about us page is the very least you can do.
    I don't mean to be too harsh (you did ask) but if you want the site to succeed you should not dismiss this. You seem to do a lot of work on the content, it would be a shame if it got dismissed out of hand by confused visitors to the site.

    "cheep, confused and amateurish"

    Wow, I did'nt think it look cheap/amateurish - the confused part people are saying it needs something to bring it together, to say what the site is about etc which I'll work on.

    Regarding cheap/amateurish I'd love to know what specifically those remarks regard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    It looks like so many other sites out there... It isn't clear what it's meant to be, so of course everybody is confused


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    Originally posted by blacknight
    It looks like so many other sites out there... It isn't clear what it's meant to be, so of course everybody is confused

    So many sites use that layout as it's an easy way to put in the content, which is why I chose it anyway. :)

    I have'nt denied the "confusion", I've acknowledged those comments and would value/appreicate suggestions on how to correct this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭manonthemoon


    The first problem is that on inital inspection the viewer has no idea what this site is about. The design/ colors/ layout are secondary.

    You should have a sentence which says.

    This website ...........sells cats

    ................................glorifies drinking alcohol without showing its nastier side effects. (Why not show someone being hammered by a gand of drunken youths)

    This website is a gallery of drunken people doing stupid things.

    This is a website that is just dumb

    I am pissed off with myself now for writing & wasting time on
    a stupid website like this. Do yourseld Buddy and try and spend your time on something useful!

    Just what the world needs another stupid website!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭buddy


    Originally posted by manonthemoon
    You should have a sentence which says.

    This website ...........sells cats

    ................................glorifies drinking alcohol without showing its nastier side effects. (Why not show someone being hammered by a gand of drunken youths)

    I take this as the constructive part of your comment and I will use it - I'll put a nice box on top of the new boxes with what the site is about - it will illustrate what the site is about, what its not about (e.g. we want to promote the good side of enjoying drink and not the nastier things).

    I thank you for your time and your interest in what is/is not a waste of my time :)


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