stand up for the CHAMPIONS!

smemon · 02-08-2003 3:04pm #1

all the talk is about over-rated chelsea and liverpool.

kewell and finnan and all of a sudden their unbeatable. same with chelsea, duff, geremi, bridge and they'll be champions.

utd are still britains no.1, quality, class, experience, money, millions of fans.... nobody rivals them.

will liverpool fans QUIT thinking their gonna win the league, ya's havn't won it for 14years. every season they say, this is our season and they end up with a plastic trophy or 2 and think their great.

BORING BORING LIVERPOOL... utd dont play 11men on the line tactics, they attack with flair and creativity unlike liverpool. ive nothing against chelsea, they're decent but still cant match utd. noone can.

watch utd dominate and retain their trophy this season.:D

KdjaCL · 02-08-2003 3:12pm

Thought this would have been about Bohs or somfin.
Guess not

yeah man utd great ,best ever yadda yadda.

kdjac

marct · 02-08-2003 3:31pm

smuckers · 02-08-2003 4:20pm

Utd need a world class def to play alongside "the still has alot to learn Ferdinand" they'll be exposed again in The CL.

Big Ears · 02-08-2003 6:20pm

Bohemians would beet united any day there real CHAMPIONS!!!

Glen Crowe is twice the player nistelroy is and bohs have nicer jersey's

Gangsta · 02-08-2003 11:54pm

[Personal insults are not allowed on this board - do it again and your banned - Gandalf].

. If no one can rival them, how come Arsenal can win the title and would have one it, if Vieira and crew were fit for the entire season Man Utd wud be in the dust. Ferguson wud have retired and that over-rated player keane wud have 2. And need I remind the trashin in the Champions League against Real Madrid, best match ever.

smemon · 03-08-2003 1:15pm

the trashing in the champs league? we beat them at old trafford and lost the 2leg tie by a single goal, hardly a trashing.

take henry and vieira out of arsenal and they're a mid-table side. when one of those two gets injured arsenal fall apart. defence i'll admit is a bit shakey but what defence isnt? keane has still got it, if he was still playing for ireland nobody would be criticising him, he'd still be the main man.

utd ALWAYS retain the title after winning it, this season will be no different.

UbahOne · 03-08-2003 1:18pm

Im waiting for Fergie to buy a worldclass cb and a new att midfielder. If he sells, Veron, then we need two new world class midfielders...

Big Ears · 03-08-2003 1:30pm

Man utd would be a mid table side without scholes and nistelrooy infact a lot of sides would be if u took there 2 best players

smemon · 03-08-2003 1:31pm

if he does sell veron, he'll have a massive transfer kitty over, 40m. im sure he'll buy at least one big name before the start of the season but i think he's holding out 'til january to see how the teams doing and if it needs strengthening.

UbahOne · 03-08-2003 1:31pm

But we would still finish ahead of Liverpool and Arsenal if that was the case and we would still win the league.

UbahOne · 03-08-2003 1:32pm

i think he's holding out 'til january to see how the teams doing and if it needs strengthening.

WE NEED EXTRA STRENGTH!!! Thats a fact. We need a world class Attacking Midfielder and a cb. blanc is gone, so Silvestre covers, then its O Shea on left and G Neville on right with Ferdinand. What is one of those gets injured?

Big Ears · 03-08-2003 1:38pm

Arsenal orchealsea or Newcastle win the premeirship thats what

smemon · 03-08-2003 1:40pm

we've got brown, silvestre, o'shea, 2nevilles and rio, 6 well known defenders, thats more than enough. however i do agree we need another big name.

and as we seen last season keane could slip into the back 4 if needed. im interested to see djemba in action, is he a quality player or overreated? fergie is usually good at picking young players.

UbahOne · 03-08-2003 3:06pm

Djemba is good...he was the only one alive in the Man Utd V Nantes match back in the Cl.

mike65 · 03-08-2003 3:57pm

Funny how Man Utd fans never mention the quarter century they won diddly squat exept a few FA Cups...? (and got relegated! by City!! by Denis Law!!!)

Of course as the average Man Utd fan is too young/ignorant and does'nt know of these things....:rolleyes:

Mike.

smuckers · 03-08-2003 5:00pm

Gangsta what personal insults?:eek:

Seaneh · 03-08-2003 5:36pm

The Champions, you mean A.C. Milan, the team ranked number one in the world but FIFA, UEFA, ESPN and World Soccer magazine?

smemon · 03-08-2003 5:43pm

funny how liverpool are going the exact same way as manutd. past 14 years they've won a few plastics cups. i wouldnt even call it 'won', more like cheated. they take no risks and play football like a chess game. they're afraid to attack.

utd fans aren't arrogant, they're confident, used to success and expect more. the english press hype them up as with all english teams. but utd are still the best in england, champions are the best.

The Muppet · 03-08-2003 5:46pm

Mike65

Funny how Man Utd fans never mention the quarter century they won diddly squat exept a few FA Cups...?

Sorry there mike but your wrong. If you check back my posts you will see that I have indeed mentioned the lean years. Its not our fault that we have progressed from there and dont need to look back decades when recalling our successes .

What I find funny though is how the very mention of man utd seems to get under some peoples skin here. I put it down to petty jealousy inspired by all that success UTD have hade in the past decade.:D

smemon · 03-08-2003 5:49pm

no, i mean utd, the champions of england. milan are the best side in europe, only because they avoided meeting madrid in the final.

8 quarter finals in a row, the most consistent side in europe, its man utd. they're not the best in europe but are never far of it.

The Muppet · 03-08-2003 5:54pm

milan are the best side in europe, only because they avoided meeting madrid in the final.

I Think its Time to ask the obvious. If milan are the best team in Europe how come they we absent from the European Cup FInal.

EDIT< sorry getting my teams mixed upmixed up> EDIT

Seaneh · 03-08-2003 5:58pm

Milan are the best in Europe because thier entire first team could be injured and they would still have a Champions league standerd side.

Abbiati

Simic
Roque Junior
Costacurta
Pancaro

Serghino
Ambrosini
Pirlo
Redondo

Rivaldo

Tomasson

What other team has reserves like that?

Seaneh · 03-08-2003 5:59pm

Originally posted by The Muppet
I Think its Time to ask the obvious. If milan are the best team in Europe how come they we absent from the European Cup FInal.

Milan WON the european cup final...

What planet have you been on?

smemon · 03-08-2003 6:10pm

i agree milan have a quality side. and yes they did win the european cup!

over-all, i would take milan over madrid for a two-legged tie. for a one-off match madrid would win. madrid at present are the best all-round side in europe.

Johnny Gomez · 03-08-2003 6:36pm

This forum really has turned into the 'Man Utd Show', i support them but I'm tired of all the topics on them. And I'd just like to say that Utd are going to have alot tougher time next year. Arsenal still have all the quality they had last year, Newcastle are just getting better, Liverpool have the potential and the signings they made could be the key to their success. So I wouldn't go as far as crowning Utd champions before the season even starts.

UbahOne · 03-08-2003 6:38pm

Real are the best team in the world...not Man Utd, not Milan...REAL MADRID.

Seaneh · 03-08-2003 6:44pm

I would bet my house that Milan would beat Real.
Infact, they made Real look like a lower division side inthier CL match last season.

Real didn't have a clue with to do with Rui costa and Shevchenko.

Gattauso kept zidane quiet all match, Figocouln't make a dint on Kaladze,
Raul and Ronaldo didn't get a sniff all game, Milan were unlucky to only score one goal, ut what a goal it was for Andriy the great.

cournioni · 03-08-2003 7:41pm

Originally posted by mike65
Funny how Man Utd fans never mention the quarter century they won diddly squat exept a few FA Cups...? (and got relegated! by City!! by Denis Law!!!)

Of course as the average Man Utd fan is too young/ignorant and does'nt know of these things....:rolleyes:

Mike.

We are talking about the present mike! All Liverpool fans seem to live on their reputation in the 80's. You have a good team, but not as good as United. The least you can do is admit that. I admitted it when we were winning fuck all

The Muppet · 03-08-2003 7:54pm

Sorry for getting my teams mixed up earlier. I always mix up milan with inter for some strange reason. As Milan won the cup this year imo they were the best team in europe

UbahOne · 03-08-2003 11:10pm

Utd won't have a chance of winning Europe this season...not a single chance...unless they buy a new cb and an attacking midfielder before registration on thursday for the cl...then were ****ed.

Tellox · 03-08-2003 11:28pm

Please lock this thread.
Every ManUre thread ends up the same.

ManUFan: OMG MANU = TEH WIN!!
Other person: Quite simply, no.
ManUFAN: !!!!!11!one!11! U = TEH SUX. LIVERPOOL = TEH SUX, CHELSEA...

*more manure fans arrive and spout about how they're going to win the quadruple this season and how arsenal will be relegated, and how the past means nothing and how everything manure doesnt win is a plastic trophy*

*Non-ManU fans ramble together and give Manure fans the same treatment*

*Flame war*

God,please lock the thread.

UbahOne · 03-08-2003 11:46pm

Major over reaction. was that neccessary? What did you contribute to this thread about Man Utd?

Big Ears · 03-08-2003 11:51pm

Milan may have won the champions league but shouldn't the best team in europe have won there own league.The top few sides in europe could beet each other 1 night and lose the next.But we shouldnt be saying the best side in europe is the best in the world Boca juniors could take that title if they beat Milan

Gangsta · 04-08-2003 1:18am

Originally posted by smemon
utd ALWAYS retain the title after winning it, this season will be no different.

What happened in the 1998 season and 2002 and that year Blackburn won. 1 Bluff. Even though Man Utd won that match, they wore torn to pieces at every attack Real Madrid made at Old Trafford (except the sitter Portillo missed) and also Real Madrid don't buy centre-backs so don't be so content with beating ol' Hierro with the tap-ins Man Utd scored. Also Man U only scored one clear-cut goal in the two legs, Beckham's free-kick (:p no more of that eh?). Bestie even said so so

again, that's 2bluffs now.

UbahOne · 04-08-2003 1:24am

gangsta what are you like?

Gangsta · 04-08-2003 1:25am

Originally posted by Big Ears
Man utd would be a mid table side without scholes and nistelrooy infact a lot of sides would be if u took there 2 best players

Well said, well said. I couldn't agree more. And about "Keano" thing is he DOESN'T play for Ireland and it's his fault, 100%. He's always fighting with other players, should be banned from the game. Also that guy on Man City he injured on purpouse should press charges on him

UbahOne · 04-08-2003 1:28am

Keane is a scumbag. He destroyed Hallands game for life.

Samba · 04-08-2003 3:48am

I have to say, having seen the Celtic and Juventus game United are looking lethal. 4-0, 4-1

The Muppet · 04-08-2003 10:28am

Gangsta

What happened in the 1998 season and 2002 and that year Blackburn won.

Well the year blackburn won it Cantona got himself banned for most of the season. If we would have got 2 more points that year we would have won and youll never convince a utd supporter that cantona would not have provided that for us. 98 again injury to our best player cost us. 2002 Fergie fell out with stam and sold him just into the season leaving utd short on defence and handing the title to the gunners. But for all the other years since 1993 we got things right. Utd Fans dont really expect to win everything every year.

As for Europe you seem to be gloating that we lost against Real.
We lost on the away goals rule against what some consider to be the best team in the world . They played some of the best
football seen this year particularly in their home leg and deserved their win. With a bit of luck we could have scored more goals too but we didint asi said we don't expect to win every match.

As your are an arsenal supporter your bitterness about utd is not surprising but maybe you should be worrying about your own teams performancees (or lack of them) in europe instead of getting so concerned about the CHAMPIONS.

Beckham's free-kick ( no more of that eh?).

This must mean you didnt see giggs free kick against Juve in the USA.:p

tellox

Please lock this thread.

I dont see any flaming in this thread . Just banter and an exchange of opinions. Nobody is forcing you to read the man u threads if you dont like them just dont read it.:p

Big Ears · 04-08-2003 10:46am

in response to man utd losing on away goals to real it wasent iwas by 1 clear goal. First leg Real 3-1 utd second real 3-4 utd

over the two legs real 6-5 utd.

smemon · 04-08-2003 1:43pm

no matter what anyone says, anyone thinks, utd are better than arsenal, liverpool and chelsea. utd are the champions. they finished above everyone and are the best team in england.

Big Ears · 04-08-2003 2:52pm

yes but they didnt win the FA cup league cup or the best of the bunch the community shield(yes they werent in that competiton but thats because of there own bad performance) didnt win the LVD vans trophy either(i know premiership clubs cant enter it.)

eyerer · 04-08-2003 2:56pm

utd = best ever?
18-15 and 4 proper european cups suggest otherwise

i can't wait for rednose to retire, back in his "final" season (2 years ago) they finished third, what will it be like when he finally does leave?

(when is he gonna retire?)

boohoo, the scum had injury trouble, so does every team, its no excuse, they didn't have enough depth in the squad, did they?

Big Ears · 04-08-2003 3:01pm

theres no gayer team than man utd all right

SteM · 04-08-2003 3:30pm

Originally posted by eyerer
utd = best ever?
18-15 and 4 proper european cups suggest otherwise

i can't wait for rednose to retire, back in his "final" season (2 years ago) they finished third, what will it be like when he finally does leave?
(when is he gonna retire?)

boohoo, the scum had injury trouble, so does every team, its no excuse, they didn't have enough depth in the squad, did they?

eyerer, you're living in the past. How do you feel relying on another teams manager to retire so your team can look better! :rolleyes: The very fact that you call another team 'scum' shows that you can't have a proper footy discussion.

It's sad when a thread decends into childish rubbish (about not winning the LDV trophy & the community shield which they didn't even play in!) and name calling from a bitter rival fan.

marct · 04-08-2003 3:36pm

Originally posted by SteM
eyerer, you're living in the past. How do you feel relying on another teams manager to retire so your team can look better! :rolleyes: The very fact that you call another team 'scum' shows that you can't have a proper footy discussion.

It's sad when a thread decends into childish rubbish (about not winning the LDV trophy & the community shield which they didn't even play in!) and name calling from a bitter rival fan.

Im a hardcore Pool fan and Im with you SteM. The whole 18/4 versus whatever amount of trophies debate has no winner and makes Pool fans seem desperate. It makes me wonder sometimes whether fans hate their opposition more than love their own team!:(

tHE vAGGABOND · 04-08-2003 3:47pm

Maybe we should make a Man U forum and chuck alll the "were great" "no your not" people in there

I dont like the fact that almost every thread here eventually end up Man U fans V ABU's..

To be honest its boring for the rest of us..

Thread locked

gandalf · 04-08-2003 6:22pm

TBH I have no problem with Manyoo posts on the forum but as vagga says its getting very boring in here at the moment with some of the childish drivel thats being posted by "certain" members.

Gandalf.

stand up for the CHAMPIONS!

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