League table by the end of 2004

AngelofFire

heres my predictions

1. Man Utd
2.Chelsea
3.Arsenal
4.Newcastle
5.Liverpool
6.Aston Villa
7.Blackburn
8.Southhampton
9.Birmingham
10.Portsmouth
11.Everton
12.Leeds
13.Man city
14.Tottenham
15.Middlesborough
16.Wolverhampton
17.Charlton
18.Bolton
19.Leicster
20.Fulham

celticfc

I'd say,

1.Arsenal
2.Man Utd
3.Chelsea
4.Newcastle
5.Liverpool
6.Aston Villa
7.Blackburn
8.Southhampton
9.Everton
10.Middlesborough
11.Man city
12.Leeds
13.Portsmouth
14.Tottenham
15.Charlton
16.Wolverhampton
17.Bolton
18.Birmingham
19.Fulham
20.Leicster

Creamy Goodness

Originally posted by AngelofFire
heres my predictions

1. Man Utd
2.Chelsea
3.Arsenal
4.Newcastle
5.Liverpool
6.Aston Villa
7.Blackburn
8.Southhampton
9.Birmingham
10.Portsmouth
11.Everton
12.Leeds
13.Man city
14.Tottenham
15.Middlesborough
16.Wolverhampton
17.Charlton
18.Bolton
19.Leicster
20.Fulham

me thinks this is the more realistic one

i would do a table out if i had the time which i don't atm i'm off to bed!

Zaph

As a Leeds fan I wish I was as confident of them finishing 12th as you guys are. I don't think we'll go down, but it's gonna be another painful season.

Helix

1. Manchester United
2. Chelsea
3. Arsenal
4. Newcastle United
5. Liverpool
6. Aston Villa
7. Blackburn Rovers
8. Charlton Athletic
9. Southampton
10. Everton
11. Leeds United
12. Tottenham Hotspur
13. Middlesbrough
14. Fulham
15. Portsmouth
16. Wolverhampton Wanderers
17. Bolton Wanderers
18. Manchester City
19. Birmingham City
20. Leicester City

super_furry

1.Liverpool
2.Arsenal
3.Man United
4.Chelsea
5.Aston Villa
6.Newcastle
7.Middlesbrough
8.Tottenham
9.Everton
10.Blackburrn
11.Man City
12.Southampton
13.Portsmouth
14.Leeds (higher if they keep Viduka)
15.Charlton
16.Wolverhampton
17.Birmingham
18.Bolton
19.Fulham
20.Leicster

smuckers

Super Furry I can't see Liverpool winning it I'll do mine soon.

celticfc

Everybody seems to think it'll be a good season for Villa

marct

1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Liverpool
4. Man U
5. Blackburn
6. Newcastle
7.Everton
8. Man City
9. Boro
10. Southampton
11. Spurs
12. Charlton
13. Villa
14. Birmingham
15. Leeds
16. Bolton
17. Pompey
18. Fulham
19. Leicester
20. Wolves

colster

Originally posted by super_furry
1.Liverpool
2.Arsenal
3.Man United
4.Chelsea
5.Aston Villa
6.Newcastle
7.Middlesbrough
8.Tottenham
9.Everton
10.Blackburrn
11.Man City
12.Southampton
13.Portsmouth
14.Leeds (higher if they keep Viduka)
15.Charlton
16.Wolverhampton
17.Birmingham
18.Bolton
19.Wolves
20.Leicster

Still a bit undecided about Wolves eh (16 + 19). Fulham look doomed.

My list would be

1. Arsenal
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Chelsea
5. Newcastle
6. Aston Villa
7. Blackburn
8. Charlton
9. Spurs
10. Leeds
11. Man City
12. Southampton
13. Birmingham
14. Middlesborough
15. Everton
16. Portsmouth
17. Bolton
18. Leceister
19. Fulham
20. Wolves

Space Coyote

My predictionses

top 6
Chelsea
Man U
Liverpool
Arsenal
Newcastle
Tottenham

bottom 3
Leicester
Wolves
Fulham

jonno

Here's my thoughts:

1. Liverpool/Man Utd.
2. Liverpool/Man Utd.
3. Arsenal
4. Chelsea
5. Newcastle
6. Southhampton
7. Blackburn
6. Aston Villa
9. Birmingham
10. Everton
11. Portsmouth
12. Man City
13. Spurs
14. Leeds Utd.
15. Wolverhampton
16. Middlesborough
17. Charlton
18. Bolton
19. Leicster
20. Fulham

UbahOne

My predictions are top three:

Man Utd
Arsenal
Chelsea

Bottom 3:

Liverpool
Bolton
Leicester

super_furry

Still a bit undecided about Wolves eh (16 + 19). Fulham look doomed.

Oppps. Indeed they do, and I reckon they'll go down with Wolves staying up.

smuckers

Havent came up with my league table yet but a few points to make.

1. The poster who said Kleberson and Djemba Djemba will be be the best PL partnership, a bit premature you think?
1. they havent even played together yet.
2. they'll have to adjust
As of yets Mancs still havent bought a world class def to play alongside Ferdinand.
Van Nist gets injured they won't be the same.

all this talk about players gelling at CFC is a bit silly they are all PL based players and the whole thing about needing a ball winner is open to debate I think Newcy did pretty well with Jenas and Dyer and they aren't exactly ball winners but Geremi can do that job pretty effective, Still need a Hughsie target man though.

Newcy have great attacking flair but are prone to def lapses and like Utd as of yet havent bought a def to play alongaside Woodgate.

Pool have got width but Kewell isn't even being playing in his correct pos, also I feel they need someone to take the work off Gerrard does far too much.

don't write of the Gooners if they can hold on to Viera they'll be up there again.

mike65

This is crazy unless someone makes this thread a sticky which we can contibute to until say Christmas. Then some amusment next May!

I wont even try the whole table....

My Top 3 in no particular order

Man Utd
Arsenal
Liverpool

My Botom 3 in no particular order

Leicester
Bolton
Fulham

smuckers

I can see Wolves going but I'd like them to stay up, I think Charlton will struggle badly.

marct

Originally posted by UbahOne
My predictions are top three:

Man Utd
Arsenal
Chelsea

Bottom 3:

Liverpool
Bolton
Leicester

TROLL:o

cournioni

Top Six:
1. Man United
2. Chelsea
3. Arsenal
4. Newcastle
5. Blackburn
6. Tottenham Hotspur

Bottom Three:
18. Leeds
19. Wolves
20. Leicester

smuckers

Impossible to predict the final table but I've got my top 4

1.Mancs
2.Chels
3.Arse
4.Pool

canker

Top
MAN U
EVERTON
ARSENAL

Bottom
Charlton
Fulham
Portsmouth

smuckers

I will run around my area naked if the toffees finish second.:)

p.pete

Originally posted by smuckers
I will run around my area naked if the toffees finish second.:)

I really hope you live somewhere rural, like leitrim or some such.

Dr Bolouswki

1. Newcastle
2. Man Ure
3. Chelsea
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Man City
7. Southampton
8. Liverpool
9. Charlton
10. Everton
11. Blackburn
12. Birmingham
13. Boro
14. Villa
15. Portsmouth
16. Bolton
17. Leceister
18. Leeds
19. Wolves
20. Fulham

Anyone check out odds with Paddypower on getting the final table exactly right?

Q_Ball

Originally posted by zaph
As a Leeds fan I wish I was as confident of them finishing 12th as you guys are. I don't think we'll go down, but it's gonna be another painful season.

On the bright side it looks like we're getting colin healy but yeah, i dont think we'll go down. Mid-table is best we can hope for i think.

Top 3:

ManUre
Chelsea
Arse


Bottom 3:

Pompey
Fulham
Leic.

Bacchus

Top 6:
1: Liverpool/Manutd
2: Liverpool/Manutd
3: Arsenal
4: Chelsea
5: Newcastle
6: Blackburn/Everton/Spurs

As you can see, I think it's a toss up between 'pool and ManU.
i'd like to see 'pool do it, but you can never write off Utd.
Arsenal are looking shaky, Wenger is losing it a bit I reckon - too many seasons underachieving.
Chelsea won't win this year (too many new players), but will definitly be contenders next year.

Bottom 3:
18:Birmingham/Bolton
19:Leceister
20:Portsmouth

Portsmouth and Leceister had better enjoy every moment of PL football this season cause they aint going to be around this time next year.

p.pete

Originally posted by Bacchus

Arsenal are looking shaky, Wenger is losing it a bit I reckon - too many seasons underachieving.

As Arsene will tell you they have won three of the last four major domestic trophies. I don't think they have underachieved - plus they still have a very strong squad (although the goalkeeper looks quite dodgy).

At the end of 2004
Top 3:
Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle (don't know the order)
Bottom 3:
Notts. Forest, Leeds, Bolton

Bacchus

Digging a hole here, but what I meant was - Wenger has underachieved, he hasn't done well in Europe, is still in (and always will be in) Fergusons shadow and he let the PL title slip away to Utd last season when he should have won it. Then yesterday after losing the Community Shield he was rather the sore loser saying the shield was a worthless trophy anyway.
I just think that he's been in Ferguson's shadow for too long and he's getting fustrated.

Villain

Villa to finish in top 7

1st Arsenal
2nd Man U
3rd Chelsea
4th Newcastle
5th Liverpool
6th Everton
7th Villa

UbahOne

I reckon Pool dont have a chance of winning it. Ever year, people think they will do it. They won't. Be realistic.

LoneGunM@n

I'd have to go for:

Top 3
Man Utd/Arsenal/Chelsea

Bottom 3
Charlton/Wolves/Fulham

From looking through the rest of the posts, every1 [including me] bar 1 person believes that Chelsea win the title this year ... & being sceptical, I personally don't believe that you can buy the title!

I'd be lying through my ass if I said I wasn't jealous of Chelsea's spending power ... But I believe that if 1 of the players doesn't perform from the off .... P45 in the post & a transfer into obscurity!! .... That's far too much pressure to be under!!

IMO The main reason that Utd & Arsenal have been so dominant in the Premiership is because they bought prudently & distilled a belief in team spirit from the start!!

UbahOne

Im sure Chelsea know that team spirit is the key.

As for buying the title, it can be done. You have to be someone who knows their stuff though.

Villain

a lot of people reckon Mr Walker bought the title for the Blackburn the time they won it.

LoneGunM@n

Originally posted by UrbahOne
As for buying the title, it can be done.

But look @ what happened @ Lazio .... Loads spent = 1 Title .... What have they done since??

Originally posted by irish1
a lot of people reckon Mr Walker bought the title for the Blackburn the time they won it.

& to put further weight behind my belief ... Have they won it since??

UbahOne

Ill tell you who to look at, and this is the only team you can look at....its Real Madrid.

LoneGunM@n

True ... but no-one else has ever done it ... and a lot of teams have tried!!

I wouldn't mind seeing Chelsea winning the league ... it'll be good for the premiership for a new face to win it ... but I'm sceptical ... We'll all know next May.

UbahOne

As for buying the title, it can be done. You have to be someone who knows their stuff though.

Its what i said originally and im still sticking to it...

uch

I think UbahOne's Prediction of Liverpool in the bottom three is more wishfull thinking than reality, but at least we can dream.

DEmeant0r

oh god, do you people still think Fulham will finish bottom 3? Not a chance.

mike65

I agree Fulham looks the business, they've had good players for a few seasons now but I don't think anyone thought Coleman would be able to stitch together a side that could win week in, week out. It will proberly go horribly wrong at some point but they won't go down...

Mike.

Mossy Monk

1. Arsenal
2. Manchester United
3. Chelsea
4. Newcastle
5. Everton

still undecided about the bottom 3

DEmeant0r

Agreed. When Tigana was fired and Coleman hired, i didn't think he'd do a good a job as he did in the last 5 games of the season. He really has brought back in something Tigana hasn't, team spirit.

the fnj

The players at the club really love Coleman, so he is able to get the best out of them and he has instilled a bit of steel in the team. Fulham have always had good players but they lacked fight, especially against smaller teams but now they go out and fight every game and it’s made a huge difference to the team. The squad is still far too small but there are some good youngsters coming through and I think now players will sign during the January transfer window.

Demeant0r it’s good to see another Fulham fan on the forum I think that makes two, a few more and we can start spamming and trolling with the Celtic, Liverpool, United and Arsenal muppets.

DEmeant0r

Heh, I actually thought I was the only Fulham fan on boards.ie... guess you proved me wrong heh.

AngelofFire

:eek: before the start of the season i thought fulham would finish in the bottom 3. i stand corrected. they did very well to take 3 points away from old trafford and if they keep up their run they might just get a UEFA spot.