Can't get into medicine because.....

^CwAzY^

I'll keep this short
Last year I'd been seeing a psychiatrist for personal reasons and he told me he wasn't going to diagnose me with anything because I wanted to do medicine in college. So I stopped going. I'm going into 6th year now and I'm having the same psychological problems which I'd like to deal with through a psychiatrist/psychologist but I'm afraid.
So my point is should this information be confidental? And where could I find out if it IS confidental? I'd apreciate any information on this as I'm very confused and worried.

damnyanks

Originally posted by rander00
Well if ur seeing a psychiatrist , then u shouldnt be anywhere near a hospital or medical industry.

How do u expect to get 570/600 poinmts anyway if ur seeing a psychiatrist anyway. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, that cud b a problem.

You truely are a moron rander.


For one thing psychiatric problems could mean anything you fool and they usually have no influence on what sort of points one is capable of.

Cwazy,

I'm assumeing medicine is applied to like any other course (CAO) if it is your medical records etc. should mean nothing.

Take rander for instance... he got into college I think

Look how he acts.

He has the worst disease of all... stupiditiy , so dont worry about it!

rander00

Thats terrible cWaZy, i deeply sympathise with ur situation.

Anyone in a psychiatric hospital/sessions should have the freeness to work at what they want. My god, its a disgrace.

damnyanks

Yeah I saw you delete your post before. Hence the whole quote from your original post.

I think you should re-read the comment about stupidity.

bugler

What are you talking about damnyanks...it's well known that anyone who has ever seen a psychiatrist or a counsellor is likely to kill people and can't possibly be trusted with any kind of responsiblity and is generally someone to be scared of!

I see the stigma attached to mental health isn't going anywhere too soon..

damnyanks

Read the post again bugler Rander originally posted that comment... but deleted it.

GuanYin

Unfortunately, you will find there are some archaic requirments in place to safeguard patient health and colleges will try acertain incoming students health. I am unsure as to whether or not those failing health tests are denied entry, I've never encountered it.

Viral blood tests are the one screening that you will encounter although I don't remember anything about mental health. Perhaps there was a question on a form regarding this (Have you or any member of your family suffered from a mental illness....)

The best person to talk to about it is a carrer councellor at your school (should one exist, or ring the college faculty admission anonymously and ask about the health requirements).

bugler

Ugh yes I know, damnyanks. I was merely mock-disputing your point, in an effort to induce humour to the thread. Which you thwarted.

To go on topic for a change, as said already I doubt very much that any in-depth digging can be done, and even if it is you should definetly be covered by your psych's commitment to confidentiality. If nothing else, bureuacracy will protect you, as how would they ever find out? And as Syke said I'd say any queries pertaining to the question of mental health will be tentative at best and there won't be any in depth psych assessment done. You yourself know the extent of your problems, but from the sounds of it they sound to be at the depression end of the scale or whatever. Meaning I don't feel too bad about encouraging you to just lie when asked if you have/had any mental health problems. But that's up to you to decide of course.

dendenz

Do a science degree first, one of the IT's Tallaght,, DIT etc. becauser as far as I know you need a science degree to do medecine nowdays and then gai entry using that?

GuanYin

What?

A science degree to do medicine? Don't be ridiculous.

You do need about 570 LC points but the wonder that is our education system, at present, you need at least an MSc or preferably a PhD to get into the graduate entry.

If you get a 1.1 BSc you have a slim chance (maybe one a year gets in on that).

Funny how 570 LC is demed more worthy than a degree in immunology!

In any case, a big change is on the horizon, they are investigating a ne Public Health General Entry BSc and turning all the health professions into postgraduate courses (alá USA). Will be a few years yet tho....

sunbeam

Is entry going to be only via a health related B.Sc then sykeirl?

With the recent announcements I got the impression that grads of all disciplines would be eligible-I can see how that would cause complications though. Would the proposed new degree also be for nursing students or will that remain as it is now?

Do many M.Sc/PhD grads currently get into medicine?

rander00

I guarantee it he will not get near medicine. Either by his health records, which they will check, and the psychiatrist visits will not be kept secret or by the points required.

Yeah I saw you delete your post before. Hence the whole quote from your original post.

DamnYankies, r u stalking me r something??

GuanYin

Well you realise that nothing is set in stone yet. No formal acadmeic meetings have taken place yet, there has been no formal meetings between the 5 medical faculties and there have been no faculty meetings that I am aware of.

I talked about it with Trinity's Deputy Dean of Medicine over the summer and he seemed to think that public health course students and postgraduates would be eligable.

Because of the nature of full medical qualification (the initial idea is to have theory in years 1-3/4 and then clinical in years 4-6) a medical orientated BSc would most likely be required for medicine (ie immunology, physiology, pharmacology). Industrial micro, geology, zooology etc wouldn't get you into medicine.

PhD and MSc are taken on a case by case basis so I don't know how they would fit in.

At present, most graduate entries into medicine are postgrads. I'm not sure (because I don't ask them and I find it harder and harder to tell someones age......I was talking to a first(now second) year in the pub last week and found out they had a PhD when I'd thought they were about 19..... I would say there are at least 10 PhD/MSc in the class I teach anyway.

GuanYin

Originally posted by rander00
I guarantee it he will not get near medicine. Either by his health records, which they will check, and the psychiatrist visits will not be kept secret or by the points required.

Ok, you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

They will check your blood for viruses at some stage in first year. You will get a Hep shot too.

They will not at any stage ask for your medical records and even if they did, they would not check psychology records as they are a otally different thing.

So stop being bitter coz someone is trying to do something you'll never get to do.

Originally posted by rander00

DamnYankies, r u stalking me r something??

No, you just set off the little machine he has that beeps when ever a fúckwit posts.

Repli

Originally posted by rander00
I guarantee it he will not get near medicine. Either by his health records, which they will check,

I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about..

as bugler said - how would they ever find out?

Who exactly is going to check his medical records? Doctors etc have a duty to maintain patients records in confidence. Although there is no legislation on the issue. "The doctor must not disclose information to any person without the consent of the patient."
I suggest you read this http://www.oasis.gov.ie/health/access_to_medical_records.html which I have quoted from, before making any further comments.

damnyanks

Originally posted by rander00
I guarantee it he will not get near medicine. Either by his health records, which they will check, and the psychiatrist visits will not be kept secret or by the points required.





DamnYankies, r u stalking me r something??

I and many others have been in situations where they were being taught / helped / worked with someone they deemed a bit off.

I'm sure some of Sykeirl's students thing he is a bit psycho or something along those lines

The bottom line is many people can be described to have genuine psychatric problems at some stage in there life. The only difference here is Cwazy is seeking help.

Ever gone to a specialist for an operation ? I have, they suffer from something indeed....

Nothing is said because they do thre job to a expected standard. If Cwazy cant reach a certain expectation given to him by the medical course then something will be said to him.

The only time they would say something is probably if he goes around stabbing his class mates with knifes during class saying Santa asked him too. But I somehow doubt they are the sort of problems he suffers from.

And yes Rander I am stalking you.

rander00

Fair enuf, i suppose you havce a point. As long as he doesnt stab his class mates.

But please, stop stalking me.

dendenz

Ring Trinity and ask them about having a science degree to get entry to medecine and see if I am right ! I guarantee you I am right

GuanYin

You can apply[/b[ for graduate entry with a science degree but it doesn't mean you will get in.

There is an application and interview process that you have to go through. I think 10 places are for graduates (not sure about trinity) and generally those with PhD & Msc degrees get first preference.

A BSc rarely gets you in, unless you have a 1.1, good references and have a hell of an interview.

dendenz

Sorry I stand corrected, thanks!