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*New- "Smoking Ban" Fair or Unfair ?..
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Originally posted by Silent Bob
And by the same token I shall liberally scatter asbestos around if you deign to smoke near me./B]
I second that, after all it doesn't affect ANYONE!!
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Originally posted by Dustaz
I can offer smokes to anyone by way of an apology
Dustaz, after your brief but highly notable cameo in the documentary about strippers on telly the other night, you of all people should know that a girl just doesn't like to be smoked on. One of them was asthmatic I think, and she used her inhaler daily to counter the ill effects of breathing while in a smoky atmosphere performing her craft.
I was brought to a jello wrestling place in LA about the size of the National Stadium many years ago by a mutual acquaintance of ours. He was a bit on the nervous side, smoking furiously, and when this stars'n'stripes bikini-clad, buxom blonde came over and offered to rub her tits in his face for a buck, the only proviso was no touching (naturally) and not to burn her with his cigarette. Her precise words were 'You're not goin' ta burn me with that thing are ya?'. He handed me his fag and the deed was done. I was subjected to it as well, and as a purely anthropological experience, it was, erm, interesting, but as an erotic experience, it was lacking. We were both disappointed by the lack of frisson, but interested by the texture of her large, scented silicone bosoms.
Anyway, it was an act of its time, as smoking is now banned everywhere in CA. Maybe there's a lesson to be learnt.
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I reckon we should make smoking entirely illegal. You'd enjoy it more then. I mean, smokes don't really do sod all for you on a chemical level (other than getting you addicted to nicotine), so it'd be nice to have the buzz of doing something illegal to go with them, eh?
You could join the dark side with those of us whose chemical pleasures are illegal, but who oddly enough don't feel the urge to get self-righteous and type in four foot high letters when someone suggests that maybe we shouldn't do it...
Smokers are funny
(It's just a shame they smell so bad - the smell kinda detracts from teh funney.)0 -
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Originally posted by DapperGent
Can I come too?
most certainly you can!
perhaps we should start collecting names now and by the time january comes round there'll be a gang of us!
who in their right mind would come withing 20 feet of a gang from boards??0 -
Originally posted by Beruthiel
most certainly you can!
perhaps we should start collecting names now and by the time january comes round there'll be a gang of us!
who in their right mind would come withing 20 feet of a gang from boards??
funnily enough, when there was 8 of us in a pub in england last weekend, only one of us smoked, and that was Dustaz.
its a shame that smokers compare their habits with such stupid analogies as the ones put forward here, because at the end of the day, they are putting smoke into the air that other people breath.
im sure if selafield was still pumping uranium into the irish sea there would be uproar, but hey, as long as you can still smoke, thats ok.
smoking is a crutch, plain and simple.
there is no benefit to it, there are no plus sides to it, and yet people still do it. hell, i smoked for 11 years. its a shame it took me so long to stop.
and to think of all the embarassed moments i had when i had to smoke alone, or the little internal joy of victory when i got someone to start smoking again, or to find someone i could smoke with so that i wouldnt be a billy no mates.
lighting up in a resteraunt when no one else at the table smoked. having to leave the no smoking parts of a pub so that i could smoke.
and for what?
so i could look cool? er, no. then what for? because there is no other reason to smoke. its not stress. its not nicotine. its nothing. it takes more will to keep smoking in the face of knowing what you are doing to yourself and others is completely wrong, that it does to stop. it takes zero will power to stop. all it takes is to just not want to smoke anymore.
now, ive gone through my 'im not smoking anymore' preachy phase, and i would never tell anyone not to smoke. i will ask people not to smoke in my direction, but its not going to stop me from pointing out that there is no reason to smoke.
except smokers tend to get really touchy when you tell them they have a filthy, disgusting, smelly habit that will kill them and waste all their money. in fact they get so hot under the collar about it they start threads like this one.
but they only get hot under the collar beacuse in the end, under it all, they know that cigarettes taste disgusting, and they pretty much hate themselves for continuing to smoke. dont blame them.
its tough knowing that you are wasting so much money, and giving yourself bad breath and wrinkles at the same time, and yet having to keep up the facade that smoking is cool and you enjoy it, and that everyone else sucks, and smokers unite, and boo-yaa sucks to you etc.
best thing i ever did was stop smoking.
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Originally posted by Borzoi
The Allen Carr method WWM?
I believe it was
and he sounds just like my bloke who also read that book!
he had smoked for over 13 years and just gave up the day he finished that book and now he sounds just like WWM
shut up WWM, I get enough of that at home!!
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Originally posted by Beruthiel
I believe it was
and he sounds just like my bloke who also read that book!
he had smoked for over 13 years and just gave up the day he finished that book and now he sounds just like WWM
shut up WWM, I get enough of that at home!!
Yeah, you can spot it a mile away, bunch of self righteous cnuts:D0 -
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Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
funnily enough, when there was 8 of us in a pub in england last weekend, only one of us smoked, and that was Dustaz.
Actually, there was 2 smokers (me and merc) and one 'pretendy' smoker :P (he shall remain nameless because hes already posted here and hed look silly
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Typical Alan Carr rant btw eamo
I should make it clear that i think cigarettes should be banned totally. right now. sale, advertising, promotion. Ban. Total. Immediate.
Of course you cant just stop smokers who are already addicted so youd need an outlet of no-brand fags for registered smokers. Say a chemist (oh the irony).
Thats feasable, and reasonable.
But its not the issue here. The issue is not that smoking is dangerous - it is. Its not if its disgusting - it is to some people. The issue is that you CANNOT expect people to stop doing something theyve been doing for donkeys years with the full blessing of the state (warnings haha yeh right) overnight.
Unlike the charming uruanium example, people have been allowed , nay sometimes ENCOURAGED to smoke in pubs since the year dot. THATS the problem.
Smokers are i think willing to compromise. Most of us are happy to not smoke in restaurants if its not permitted, flights, cinemas, public transport etc. All we want is a little frickin give and take on the pubs issue and a little less holier than thou preaching.0 -
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yep, i used the allen carr book.
no dr loon, i didnt tell anyone not to smoke. in fact i dont think i mentioned it at all.
like i said, i wouldnt preach at anyone to stop smoking. you know how stupid are yourself without me having to say it.
and we are having a discussion about it here, so i think im entitled to add my 2 cents worth, just like you have. not that it was worth 2c mind you. very little you say is ***.
although, i find it amusing that every smoker who has posted has been very aggressive about their habit.
full of 'If so I really hope you gave him a good box to the jaw.' and 'Yeah, you can spot it a mile away, bunch of self righteous cnuts'.
i mean, i only pointed out some valid points. but you seem to take it very personally. well, at least i smell nice
ruthie, if i sound like your fella, then maybe theres something in it
if youre hooked on crack cocaine and then give up, im sure youd want to tell the world about it and youd feel good about it
and well done to him. boo hiss to you though for still smoking
anyway, to reply to dusty who it seems is the only one to have a proper say on the matter.
nicotine addiction last 2 weeks.
that it. anyone wwho cant fight that should really stop breathing. the 'pangs' last for 5 seconds.
come on, tell me you can go past that.
while nicotine is one of the most addicitive drugs in the world, there are very little withdrawl symptons. it only takes one drag to get addicted, and that will make you want more. but if you dont get it, its not going to kill you. in fact, it does bugger all apart from make you slightly irritable.
non smokers are also willing to compramise as well you know.
after all, i bet you smoked in my apartment over the weekend. i know merc did. yes i am a non smoker, and i hate it.
i compromised. so anyone that thinks im on an anti smoking high moral ground here can take that out of the equation.
by the way, you say smokers are encouraged to smoke inthe pub, and thats the problem?
what, so its someone elses fault now?
how does that work?
you sound like a typical smoker defending his right to stink up the place and pollute other peoples air.
as a non smoker, 'All we want is a little frickin give and take on the pubs issue and a little less holier than thou preaching'
by the way, why dont some of you try reading the allen carr book instead of talking rubbish about it.
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I used Allen Carr as well.
I made a huge effort to stop smoking. I was fed up to feel like **** (I was smoking 20 a day and 40 when going out)
It takes what...something like 10 to 15 years to fully recover. I just can t stand when I breath smoke from people who don t make any efforts.
I admit I became extreme ...
It s not only in pubs it's annoying, it s also in the street !! When walking behind a smoker, if the wind is coming from the front, then it's for your lungs!
When playing pool with a friend (smoker) he was asking me to stop complaining about the smoke, arguing that 'a little bit' of smoke won t harm me. Well I don t care I don t want other people smoke.
The problem with this shiete is that you CAN NOT avoid it, there will always be someone poisoning your air.
Please, no parallel with car fumes) This is exactly the kind of poor argument I was giving when I was smoking.
In my opinion, lots of people smoke because other people smoke. Lots of people are just waiting for the ban to be active to stop. So this ban is a good thing.
No excuses like : oooh I will stop going to the pub then, and they ll lose money ...etc
People will just get used to it. Live with it.
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I do agree with you Wyvern... IN THEORY.
In theory, Communism works!
Sorry, had to be said!
What I mean, is that while some people I know who smoke are very polite and respectfull, and will try and keep the smoke out of your face, either by doing something simple by swapping the cigarette from left to right hands, or by moving the ashtray a bit...
But for the most part, smokers are irritable ****heads who really have no consideration whatsoever. I'll give you an instance: I had just gotten some pizza, and sat down to eat it, when a friend came over beside me to talk to someone next to me. Cigarrete in hand, the smoke was blowing onto my pizza! So I said "Do you mind?" and I was promptly ignored. So again, I said in a louder tone "Do you mind? I'm trying to eat here!" and for my troubles, he blow a whole lungfull of smoke right into my face and snapped "It's a free country!"
Said person shall remain nameless, but I'll make a point that it wasn't just some random bloke, it was actually someone I knew very well. A near ex-friend, at that point.
Sure, some smokers can be considerate, and can be willing to compromise, but for the most part, they'd rather extinguish the cig in your face than care if you're coughing your lungs up. I mean, just look at the case a while back, where a bloke was savagely beaten (Can't remember did he die from it or not, can someone refresh my memory?) for pointing out to someone that they can't smoke on a bus. The guy hurled abuse at him, so he went downstairs only to be follow, and got the ****e kicked out of him.
Seriously, is it any wonder that the entire Knacker population of Ireland smoke?
Honestly, I've gotten a few cigarette burns from people who just dont want to give a bit of respect.
Now, I'm not being an arsehole here, and I'm not preaching against smoking just because 'I dont like it' or something like that. I've seriously got some nasty chest infections from being in places that are too smoky, and I would generally have to be on antiboitics for about a week before I'd stop coughing up yellow gunk.0 -
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Originally posted by Paddy20
I have not read through this thread. So, if someone has already stated this before well, oh damn it, here goes anyway.
People who do not smoke DIE. People who smoke DIE. What people do in between is their choice. So, put that in your pipe, and SMOKE it!.
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That is exactly why they have put a new warning on the packs :
You can die with a long and painfull disease.
Indeed , this is another excuse from smokers: 'You have to die from something' 'nobody s gonna live for ever' etc ... Well die from tongue cancer at 30 years old if you like, I don't want to breath it.
AW made a good point, smokers think they are free to smoke to your face, well then I m free to piss on their trousers then, it s a free country after all, I can do what I want!!
They are (I was ..) inconsiderate.
Again as per what AW said about knacker population is true. There's a petrol station just 20 m from my appartment, every single knackers going to that petrol station including filling the tank of their car,SMOKE !! How absolute braindead do you have to be to smoke in this context!? So now I d have to avoid going to the station or even I d have to move to another location because they re free ...
They also smoke on your face in the bus.
Not talking about the freedom of the individual but smoking kills indirectly: smoking while driving ... smoking in a petrol station ..
Smoking kills an awful lot more people than heroine. Heroine is illegal and you can t buy it.
It s forbidden to use your mobile in a car, but it is allowed to light a fag with matches while driving ...
etc ..
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Originally posted by Paddy20
ZeFrog,
I have read the first post on this thread posted by * Wook. The thread starter, and I have noted his comments.
He seems to be a smoker who respects the rights of non-smokers, and I can understand his genuine frustration.
I am a non - smoker. However, I respect the "civil rights" of smokers, to enjoy a product that has been legally purchased, and from which our government pockets an unfair amount of duty and tax every year.
This Country is becoming much to Dictatorial in just about all walks of life?..
P.;)
Fair enough dude
As I said I became a bit 'extreme' and in my opinion fags shouldn't be legally sold for the reasons I gave earlier.
The only reason it s legal is because, as you say, the government gets money out of it. Tremendous amount of money.
We had to accept smokers civil rights to smoke in restaurants + pubs, we'll see how they accept it now that this right is gone, well in a couple of months.
You re also talking about enjoying the product. As a former smoker I know that there s no such thing as enjoying smoking. Except maybe if you smoke one a day or one for special occasion: how many do that ? The pleasure comes from the fact that you satisfy the craving! But if you don t smoke, there s no craving.
You can enjoy a beer: it makes you feel relaxed, it actually has a taste, etc ...
Let s smoke a Camel and then a Marlboro: what s the difference ?? None, you satisfy your craving
What s the difference between a Budweiser and a Budvar (the Tczech beer) one is piss the other has taste 0 -
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"Smoking Ban"; Fair of Unfair ?..
As and from January 2004. New legislation "Banning Smoking" in all workplaces, including entertainment venues, and even our "Local Pub!" is apparently going to be introduced.
I am a non -smoker who believes that when someone buys a legal product and pays a premium price!, from which our government pockets a large sum of money. Then that person has the right to enjoy that product.
IMHO, This New Law is draconian, and an affront, to the "Civil Liberties" of Irish citizens "Right to choose".
The way things are headed we will soon need a damn *license to go too the Bog!. Enough is enough.
Whats your opinion?..
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