Soul Caliber 10/10 on Eurogamer

shinzon · 30-09-2003 10:17am

I got the x-box version of this game yesterday, well chuffed, im not much of a beat em fan to be honest, but i like this game a lot, im playing as sapwn now and hes belting everyone about the place lol

Shin

jesus_thats_gre · 30-09-2003 11:23am

I unlocked Cervantes yesterday

made my day

Len_007 · 30-09-2003 12:22pm

Came in to rant about the endings, but that's been done. I thought there might be a harder arcade that gets unlocked when you complete normal arcade with all the characters.
Other than that it's class. Link Rocks

Creature · 30-09-2003 3:40pm

Originally posted by Retr0gamer
Really thinking about getting this. Don't know wether to get the GC version or PS2 version. I'd rather have the link character but I'm worried about how the GC pad handles in a beat'em up.

No, no, no the GC pad works perfectly! Ye see this isn't the standard fighing game with 3 punches, 3 kicks etc. In SC2 you just have Block, kick, Horizontal slash and Vertical slash and since there's only 4 actions the pad accomdates perfectly. It's easy to use and a synch to get used to.
Get the GC version, Link is so much fun to play as.

Gonzo · 30-09-2003 4:09pm

yea go for the gamecube version, link is in it (easily the best of the new characters) and the gamecube controller is surprisingly excellent setup for the game.

Rabies · 30-09-2003 4:17pm

Prob pick it in the next few days. How much is it? My local shop is charging €66 for GC version and €60 for PS2 version. i don't live in a city so the option of travelling to Smyths or Game doesn't apply to me. Local Xtravision only have the PS2 copy.... don't want that one, heard its better on GC.

Creature · 30-09-2003 6:50pm

Try ordering it online. Play.com is a good site and they deliver free. It may take longer coming from England but
you'll save cash.

KdjaCL · 30-09-2003 8:36pm

What a game

Havent finished any of the modes yet on hard anyways but everytime free minute i get is spent on it.

2 player is simply amazing.

Will play more before agreeing or disagreeing with 10.10

kdjac

BLITZ_Molloy · 30-09-2003 9:54pm

Originally posted by Creature
I know I probably wont want to hear this but........what did they do to Lizardman?:(

Nothing at all has been carried over from the original character - speed and priority have been reduced, fast combo attacks like A K > B K or 11AA have been slowed and the kicks, stun attacks and sword lunges specific to him have been removed. All his sneak attacks like hcfhcf8, 33B dont work, his 66B uppercut which was death in the DC version has reduced range.....and he's looks ****.

Link is a mess as well. He's all projectile attacks which don't gel with the main game at all. The only well rounded extra character is Spawn.

SC is fun for a couple of weeks but its things like this that just piss me off in the long term. VF4: Evo just gets everything right, even if it lacks the initial over the top appeal of Namco's output.

Shinji · 30-09-2003 11:27pm

Lizardman shouldn't have been unlockable in SC2. He wasn't unlockable in the Japanese version, he only appeared in the Weapon Master mode - they threw him in as a bonus extra in the PAL version. He was NEVER designed as a fully rounded character and has a very limited moveset - anyone using him in Versus mode needs their head seeing to.

Deadwing · 01-10-2003 12:11am

Never liked lizardman anyway. I always thouyght he was just Sophitia with..umm..lizard..body. But yeah, i wanted to ask, is it much better on GC compared to PS2? I originally wanted to get the GC version for Link, but we only got PS2 copies in work, so deciding between a free ps2 copy, or 60 euro for a GC copy you can imagine what i chose. So what ARE the differences? The controller seems like it would suck for beat em ups.

KdjaCL · 01-10-2003 7:24pm

I using GC pad and its perfect, the 3 buttons are well thought out and all the rest are blocks so a Block+ Kick is easiest with L and X .

I dont know whether it was meant but i seem to use different block buttons for different attacks which req block.

kdjac

jesus_thats_gre · 02-10-2003 12:56am

Eh get the fee one ya mad man.

moridin · 02-10-2003 8:13am

Originally posted by Creature
No, no, no the GC pad works perfectly! Ye see this isn't the standard fighing game with 3 punches, 3 kicks etc. In SC2 you just have Block, kick, Horizontal slash and Vertical slash and since there's only 4 actions the pad accomdates perfectly. It's easy to use and a synch to get used to.
Get the GC version, Link is so much fun to play as.

I have the GC version, one person using a GC pad and another using a PS2 pad via an adapter. The PS2 pad is soooo much better for this game. The lack of a decent D-pad on the GC controller really hurts, making it very very easy to do the wrong move by mistake or just not managing to do the move at all. Played with the GC pad cos my brother won't go near it and when I switched to the Dual Shock controller it was so much easier to play properly :P

Deadwing · 02-10-2003 9:01am

In an interesting bit of news, the GC version of SC2 is outselling both Xbox and Ps2 versions, and accounts for something like 31% of total sales, the sales of gamecube are up over 100% in some shops since its release

Shinji · 02-10-2003 9:50am

The lack of a decent D-pad on the GC controller really hurts

Some day, the 2D beat 'em up fanatics are going to realise that SC2 was designed to be played on the analogue stick, and you're crippling your ability at the game by using the d-pad. Some day...

(No, I'm not making that up - Namco has said so from the outset. There was an interview in Dengeki ages ago with one of the lead guys gushing about how great the GameCube controller is because its analogue stick is in an octagonal cutout, so it's really easy to do proper beat 'em up controls with it since it's just like a proper arcade stick, but with analogue movement for the eight-way run system...)

Creature · 02-10-2003 4:02pm

Originally posted by moridin
I have the GC version, one person using a GC pad and another using a PS2 pad via an adapter. The PS2 pad is soooo much better for this game. The lack of a decent D-pad on the GC controller really hurts, making it very very easy to do the wrong move by mistake or just not managing to do the move at all. Played with the GC pad cos my brother won't go near it and when I switched to the Dual Shock controller it was so much easier to play properly :P

I don't agree, ifind it much easier to use the Stirk rather than the d-pad. I hate and always have hated using d-pad for fighting gams not only do they completely destroy your thumbs but it's twice as gard to pull off some move motions. Agree completely with Shinji.

BLITZ_Molloy · 02-10-2003 10:42pm

Originally posted by Shinji
Some day, the 2D beat 'em up fanatics are going to realise that SC2 was designed to be played on the analogue stick, and you're crippling your ability at the game by using the d-pad. Some day...

(No, I'm not making that up - Namco has said so from the outset. There was an interview in Dengeki ages ago with one of the lead guys gushing about how great the GameCube controller is because its analogue stick is in an octagonal cutout, so it's really easy to do proper beat 'em up controls with it since it's just like a proper arcade stick, but with analogue movement for the eight-way run system...)

My arse, it was originally designed to be played on an arcade machine with Sanwa J-sticks. Those have tiny travel. Absolute polar opposite to an analogue stick.

tman · 02-10-2003 11:05pm

Originally posted by Deadwing
In an interesting bit of news, the GC version of SC2 is outselling both Xbox and Ps2 versions, and accounts for something like 31% of total sales, the sales of gamecube are up over 100% in some shops since its release

the revolution is upon us:horned:
(31% must be a wrong figure tho)

Deadwing · 02-10-2003 11:45pm

Originally posted by tman
the revolution is upon us:horned:
(31% must be a wrong figure tho)

This is just the first step before the Gamecube becomes self aware, takes over the world, and attacks humans with little Italian plumber terminators. "I'll a' be a' back!"

Shinji · 03-10-2003 12:50am

My arse, it was originally designed to be played on an arcade machine with Sanwa J-sticks. Those have tiny travel. Absolute polar opposite to an analogue stick.

The arcade version was originally designed for that. Oddly enough the console versions have been substantially rewritten to compensate for console controls. However I'm delighted to note that you apparently know more about this than THE GUY WHO DESIGNED THE GAME DOES!

bugs · 03-10-2003 8:57pm

Whether it was designed for an analogue stick or not, i dunno. But the sticks on pads like the GC and ps2 bear no resemblence to an arcade stick. You haven't a fraction of the freedom of movement with a thumb-stick as you would have with a japanese style arcade stick. I could understand that they could modify it with the analogue option in mind, but its not got any of the advantages of a proper stick.

tman · 04-10-2003 7:00pm

Originally posted by Shinji
However I'm delighted to note that you apparently know more about this than THE GUY WHO DESIGNED THE GAME DOES!

roffle.
finely played:D

BLITZ_Molloy · 05-10-2003 9:37pm

I don't claim to know more about the game than the designer.

I'm just claiming that game designers talk alot of horse****. I could go digging in google for Dave Perry sound bytes at this point but you didn't bother to provide a proper quote and source so I don't think I'll bother.

Soul Caliber 10/10 on Eurogamer

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