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an unnamed feeling

  • 02-10-2003 10:27am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭


    just wondering, has anybody here experience of having their mind going into a sad, mad, bad place after the slightest bit of turbulence in their lives.
    I'm so fecking sensitive that if my Ma says "boo" i nearly start to cry! Well not really, but every so often I get these awful feelings brought on by the most common of problems.
    Par exemple, one day there, not too long ago I got the **** eaten out of me by my boss for a mistake, which by all accounts was trivial. After this episode I felt so terrible, I nearly wanted to die.
    Now I know it may seem like i'm a big pussy but for me this is a real problem. Over time I've learned to say to myself "weather the storm, this feeling will be gone tomorrow". And it's funny, after the bad day, I can't understand why I felt that way!
    Anyone out there empathise with what I'm saying here? How do I balance my mind?


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Originally posted by Heresy
    Anyone out there empathise with what I'm saying here? How do I balance my mind?

    10 years ago I would have been very upset if this had happened to me, now if the same thing happened I would just think ‘asshole, everyone makes mistakes, including you mr. boss, in fact I have been first hand witness to your mistakes, which at times have been much larger than this tiny one of mine’
    (I wouldn't say this out loud of course..)
    I think the older you get the thicker your skin becomes, you care less about what others say as you come to realise they aren’t so perfect either.
    It depends on the boss though, I remember one boss complaining about some little mistake I did, I said to him "what about the 1000 things I did right? when are you going to mention that?"
    he laughed and said sorry, doesn't work with all of them though, so be careful! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭logic1


    Could be a touch manic depressive if your mood swings are that wild.

    .logic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭hedgetrimmer


    I think everyone goes through a period when the detritus of life builds up and clogs the system. Basically, all that stuff which people bury, don't deal with and a lot of the time aren't even aware of, builds up like steam in a pressure cooker until, essentailly, the fabric starts to shake a bit.

    People tend to become "super-sensitive" when there are many small things which prick and pull in the mind - so many things that most people don't know where to start.

    It's like Emotional Buckaroo I guess.

    Thing that worked for me was meditation. But before it happens, or even after, take 15 seconds, a deep breath, and ask yourself where that particular instance came from and why - things might clear up then

    Good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭Runfree


    Try to think of the positive things you have done and don't let the bad things get to you.

    Easier said then done though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,523 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by Heresy
    Par exemple, one day there, not too long ago I got the **** eaten out of me by my boss for a mistake, which by all accounts was trivial. After this episode I felt so terrible, I nearly wanted to die.
    He didn't fire you, it's OK.

    However, it does sound like you are suffering from stress (search this forum for previous threads on stress) and might be prone to being depressed (persistantly low for two weeks or more) or manic depressed (very happy, then very sad). Have a chat with your GP.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Roller Toaster


    I have the same problem. Last year I was often so stressed out/emotional I could barely speak. This year wasn't much better but for different reasons. All I can say is that you just have to ride out the wave and look forward to reaching the other side. Thats what keeps me going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭HarryD


    I used to be a bit like that..
    Now when times are good, I endeavour to take time to really appreciate how good it is.
    And when times are bad, I always know that they will be good again soon :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Heresy


    manic depressed (very happy, then very sad).

    this is me in a nushell. apart from this little problem I'm fairly normal. So normal in fact, you'll be seeing me tomorrow night at "boards beer".

    Cheers & Slainte.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭BigDaddyKone


    this is a bit off topic but are you french? just because you said "par example". I am curious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Heresy


    No I'm not french. I hail from a place more different than france, than any other place in the world. I'm from Laois, the hill billy county of ireland.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    I would be cautious using terms like manic depression (bipolar disorder) it brings a lot of complications with it.
    I too have gone through an extended period when even small things seemed like an imense effort and getting up in the morning was like entering a world of pain. I had to take some stock of my life and decide what i wanted to do, i know for example it was my parents that once upon a time expected that i would go to university, but i wasn't happy there. now my life has taken a different path and while it is not what my parent sexpected, i found that i needed to do what I wanted to do. i have since been able to build confidence in myself and what i do to be able to withstand the tough stuff from authority figures. I agree with the pressure cooker of emotions theory, it does however take some time to feel it's okay to express these emotions that want to 'explode'. Think about it, talk about it (with trusted friend) and if things are badly getting you down the GP is a good suggestion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 658 ✭✭✭xx


    Originally posted by Heresy
    just wondering, has anybody here experience of having their mind going into a sad, mad, bad place after the slightest bit of turbulence in their lives.
    I'm so fecking sensitive that if my Ma says "boo" i nearly start to cry! Well not really, but every so often I get these awful feelings brought on by the most common of problems.
    Par exemple, one day there, not too long ago I got the **** eaten out of me by my boss for a mistake, which by all accounts was trivial. After this episode I felt so terrible, I nearly wanted to die.
    Now I know it may seem like i'm a big pussy but for me this is a real problem. Over time I've learned to say to myself "weather the storm, this feeling will be gone tomorrow". And it's funny, after the bad day, I can't understand why I felt that way!
    Anyone out there empathise with what I'm saying here? How do I balance my mind?

    Ever hear of the concept of 'Revenge'? That'll make you feel much better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Re: Manic Depression.

    I would have to agree with Star Gazer about being cautious about using terms like "Manic Depression".

    For a very long period during my life I was practically solely, fully responsible for someone suffering, from this medically diagnosed psychological condition.

    Extreme mood swings are a classic symptom of Manic Depression, but suffering from ups and downs, or high followed by low moods should not be "self diagnosed" as manic behaviour or an indication that you suffer from this condition.

    A talk with a good G.P. who may refer you to a specialist/ psychiatrist would be a wise decision. At least then you have the opportunity of being professionally diagnosed and helped.

    You know a lot of people suffer from what to them are serious highs and lows in mood and behaviour. Yet, they are not Manic Depressives in a clinical sense.

    Therefore, that is why I personally would recommend a chat with a medical professional such as your G.P. is always a good place to start.

    Regards,

    P.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Originally posted by Heresy
    No I'm not french. I hail from a place more different than france, than any other place in the world. I'm from Laois, the hill billy county of ireland.

    that there is the prob I'd say.
    Laois does have a way of sucking the lyfe outta people.

    btw..I wouldn't really go as far as saying "hill billy county"...I mean what about Offaly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Heresy


    This is like totally off the point but had a good laugh there at the boards beer there on sat. night. Meet simon, De Vore, smiles and a few more names that I was too inebriated to remember! Thanks to the Bungee Jump people for the prize. Cheers lads, much appreciated. Back to topic:

    that there is the prob I'd say.Laois does have a way of sucking the lyfe outta people.


    Ah yes, Laois bloody Laois. It is an awful place but it's no hoover.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Heresy,

    Glad to hear you had a good laugh at the Boards Beer. You know I was wondering about a statement you made in an earlier post in relation to "Manic Depression", Quote;" this is me in a nutshell apart from this little problem I am fairly normal" end quote.

    Did you read my post on Manic Depression ?.. if you did, was it of any help. I would be interested to know if you have discussed your concerns with your GP.

    Please do not think I am being nosey, or have any wish to dampen your mood. I am simply concerned.

    Regards.

    Paddy20.:ninja:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 cornell babe


    Originally posted by Roller Toaster
    All I can say is that you just have to ride out the wave and look forward to reaching the other side. Thats what keeps me going.

    aw... such a pretty quote...:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Heresy


    Yes paddy, your post was useful.
    I haven't gone to my gp yet but I intend doing something about this problem.
    It's difficult to know when these lows will arrive, it'd be great to go to the gp when i'm on a low, as it's fairly difficult to describe. Funnily enough, it mostly happens when I'm on my own! Bit of a catch 22.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Heresy, not my opinion, but I've heard tell it's ok to fancy people of your own sex in 2003. Don't sweat it. The GP will be no use in this instance. You have a psychological issue. get the yellow pages out or go to the George, your choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Heresy,

    Thanks for replying so promptly. You say that you feel low mostly when you are on your own, and that it would be great to go to a GP when you are on a low.

    You also state that it is a bit of a "Catch 22".

    I am not surprised that you have not as yet been to have a chat with your GP, as many people find going to their GP particularly difficult. Especially, when the problem that they wish to discuss is of a depressive nature.

    However, I would encourage you to go asap. Tell your GP that you became so concerned about your highs and lows. That you went so far as posting your problem anonymously on the Internet.

    Then leave the questions to the GP!. Sometimes, writing down exactly what type, or how extreme, the moods swings can be is helpful. If you then give this written explanation of how you really feel to your GP to read, it can help your GP greatly. You would be surprised how many people go to their GP, and leave before really explaining their "Real" problem in detail, simply because they did not put something down on paper before going. Most good GPs have a very sympathetic attitude about all types of depression, but they are not "psychic", they can only react to what you the patient tells them, or have written down for them to read.

    You are obviously concerned, that is why I am encouraging you to act. The appropriate help is available, but you must seek it out.

    Finally, you may find that your depressive episodes, are more "common/normal" than you think, but remember, should your GP decide that you may need specialist assistance, you will get it, if you ask!, and it is better to look for help sooner, rather than later.

    You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain by visiting your GP. Why wait ?..

    Best of luck.

    Paddy20.:ninja:


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Have an extended group of friends- we're all adopted, and suffer what can only be described as severe depression an awful lot of the time. I'm not going to go into symptoms here, and some of the ****e that happens- what most of us end up doing is closing down on certain levels, compartmentalising- and trying to please all and sundry around us. I know what its like to burst into tears in a public place, and I'm 29 years old. I know what its like to spend hours in work in the bathroom in tears, at the slightest wrong. There is something wrong with that. I don't think its manic depression- its just a way of life for a lot of people unfortunately.

    Btw- if you have a propensity for depression- it tends to hit you in the autumn time- the shortening days etc. I think it has something to do with daylight- it has to.

    Try to spend as much time outdoors as possible during daylight hours- maybe combine it with a hobby if possible. I spent two hours today in Stephens Green photographing wild mushrooms (no they weren't magic....)

    Take care,

    Shane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Originally posted by MojoMaker
    Heresy, not my opinion, but I've heard tell it's ok to fancy people of your own sex in 2003. Don't sweat it. The GP will be no use in this instance. You have a psychological issue. get the yellow pages out or go to the George, your choice.

    Btw - that was a joke. Forgot the damn :D hmmmm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Good words Shane & Paddy btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭Ryo Hazuki


    I'm from Laois, the hill billy county of ireland.

    Well, I guess you could argue that or...

    Join the LNA today.

    Nothing like a little county pride to chase away the blues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Heresy


    your post mr mccarrick, has made me a bit worried - so if i don't do anything about this thing or think of it as a "way of life", it'll never go away...
    the (famous) golfer Gary Player once said that if you forget about this weeks problems they'll be gone next week.
    Mr. Player and Mr. mccarrick have one thing in common - they're both talking crap in these instances. It's no way of life mccarrick and *you* know it...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Heresy- I agree- its not a way of life- what I meant was you have to live it- not that you have to like it. I'm not getting into an argument here, thats the last of my intentions. You did get good advice from some people- at very least think about it.

    Take care,

    Shane


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    Heresy- I agree- its not a way of life- what I meant was you have to live it- not that you have to like it. I'm not getting into an argument here, thats the last of my intentions. You did get good advice from some people- at very least think about it.
    smccarrick

    Starting out on this process of figuring out what is wrong can be difficult and different for everyone that goes through it. an unnamed feeling is a common symptom of depression, but it doesn't have to be depression. While things are unclear for you, maybe before you go to the doctor you might want to get a bit more information about what is going on for you. Reading about depression, ringing helplines for information can be reassuring, there are self-help support groups like Aware and Grow, there are options out there.
    There is a point for people who do have depression where one needs to accept the situation. Which means accepting that (like in the film Is this 'as good as it gets'?) it could be like this indefinitely BUT once one accepts this, it doesn't have to be like that , change can hapen and things can improve. maybe you shouldn't worry about that for the time being.
    Finding out what is going on for you, heresy, will help to ease the nerves about the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,523 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by smccarrick
    I know what its like to burst into tears in a public place, and I'm 29 years old. I know what its like to spend hours in work in the bathroom in tears, at the slightest wrong. There is something wrong with that. I don't think its manic depression- its just a way of life for a lot of people unfortunately.
    I have had similar (not the same) experiences, it's hard to accept what you say "its just a way of life". I know certain things can't be undone, but at they same time, I can't accept them.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    You're right. I probably shouldn't have put anything up on the thread. Lately has not been good- should have posted in a better frame of mind.

    Take care all,

    Shane


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    You're right. I probably shouldn't have put anything up on the thread. Lately has not been good- should have posted in a better frame of mind.
    smccarrick

    i know it can be tough, but i think that honesty is the best policy. You also have other people here to keep an eye out in case a post doesn't say what you intended it to (mods, other posters). You don't have to be "happy" to post here and everyone's opinion is valid.
    I know certain things can't be undone, but at they same time, I can't accept them.
    Victor

    I may sound like i'm able to accept all the sh1t but i think it's a life's journey to get to grips with all of it. One step at a time! :)


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