Portsmouth v Liverpool (Contains Score)

Shred · 18-10-2003 5:08pm #1

Portsmouth 1 - Liverpool 0

By the sounds of things on LFC.TV. Portsmouth were all over Liverpool at times, with Berger scoring the only goal in the 4th minute (and could have had another later on). Portsmouth also had a goal disallowed.

Liverpool couldn't really muster any sort of attack at all until Pongolle and Le Tellac came on, even then they only had half chances (Pongolle with two wides in as many minutes).

I don't give a **** what anyone says - Heskey should be sold, he's f*ckin' useless.

3 defeats in a row now, we badly need Hamann and Owen back:mad:

mr_angry · 18-10-2003 5:17pm

Apparently Portsmouth were lucky enough at times - some backs-to-the-wall defending kept Liverpool at bay. But then again, Yakubu did hit the bar for Portsmouth aswell.

I just feel Liverpool have finally found their level - mid-table obscurity. For the past couple of years, their position has belied the fact that they are a fairly ordinary team.

The Muppet · 18-10-2003 5:38pm

How come players that are sold usually come back and score against their former club?

Just listening to all the unhappy fans on Today FM calling for GH's head. Time must be ruuning out for him.

GuanYin · 18-10-2003 6:00pm

Originally posted by The Muppet
Just listening to all the unhappy fans on Today FM calling for GH's head. Time must be ruuning out for him.

He's been on borrowed time for about a season.

cournioni · 18-10-2003 6:02pm

Originally posted by Shred
I don't give a **** what anyone says - Heskey should be sold, he's f*ckin' useless.

Well anyone that thinks otherwise about Heskey need their head examined. I don't understand why Houllier doesn't use some of his other strikers instead of him. What about those two French youngsters? They sound promising from what I've heard, why doesn't Houllier throw them in there?

I think the problem lies with your manager because he makes the wrong selections time after time. And if the chance does come along, they should sell Heskey although I'd doubt if anyone will want him.

jesus_thats_gre · 18-10-2003 6:40pm

Excuses have run out for GH. Either the team begins to perform or its time to leave. 3 losses in a row is starting to look like the beginning of another bad run just like the one last year.

I just feel Liverpool have finally found their level - mid-table obscurity. For the past couple of years, their position has belied the fact that they are a fairly ordinary team.

I personally think think this is a pretty rediculous comment and was purposely put there to annoy Liverpool supporters, or just me maybe, huh angry? (Remembers Counterstrike the othernight

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Big Ears · 18-10-2003 6:51pm

i think some nationwide clubs might want Heskey on a free but they probably couldnt afford Heskeys wages.

If i were a liverpool fan id be calling for houlier's head because if he keeps playing heskey he will want to renew his contract whenevr its about a year to run out.

jank · 18-10-2003 6:55pm

its funny to think that Henry cost only half a million more than heskey!!! he is total $hi%e how he gets his game for england is beyond me all he is is muscle with legs he does nothing more

jongore · 18-10-2003 7:17pm

Liverpool have serious problems again this year, this defeat means that they have more or less wrote off any chance of a title win this season (They are now 12 points behind).

The best that Liverpool can hope for is 4th and that is looking increasingly like a forlorn hope.

If Liverpool fail to reach the Champs League again this season the finacial implications will be serious also Owen could leave (as he has threatened) and trying to attract new players becomes harder.

This could be the start of the slide towards midtable obsucurity for one of the greatest clubs in the world.

kaimera · 18-10-2003 7:51pm

Originally posted by jongore
This could be the start of the slide towards midtable obsucurity for one of the greatest clubs in the world.

as a LFC fan..it pains me to say this but we haven't been a great club for years

Johnny_the_fox · 18-10-2003 9:36pm

I was a big Liverpool Fan ... watched every game I could. But since the couple of seasons, selling players (Fowler, Redknapp etc).. I have lost all interest in them. The club doesnt really appeal to me anymore... I can barely watch them.

Houlier has come out and said...after todays game

"The main difference between the two sides was the freshness. We have had players away in Turkey and other internationals plus the European game midweek. I don't think we had enough liveliness about us and they defended well."

Newcastle where in the same boat as Liverpool - Internationals away and European Tie... but still manage to get a result today...

:mad: I wish Houlier would quit the bull**** of talking **** and face the facts - he has lost his magic ... and its time for him to move on... :mad:

Thanx 4 The Fish · 18-10-2003 10:41pm

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Well anyone that thinks otherwise about Heskey need their head examined. I don't understand why Houllier doesn't use some of his other strikers instead of him. What about those two French youngsters? They sound promising from what I've heard, why doesn't Houllier throw them in there?

I think the problem lies with your manager because he makes the wrong selections time after time. And if the chance does come along, they should sell Heskey although I'd doubt if anyone will want him.

Agreed Heskey couldn't score in a brothel these days but he does put himeslf about up there and made alot of goals for Owne last season. Why Houllier sticks with him I have no idea, he could stick in the on of those french youngsters who is a striker in Heskey's place SFP but once hammann is fit again I would see trouble for ALT to get into the team regularly.

BTW Porn, what happened to "I never post on Liverpool threads" ?

brucealmighty · 18-10-2003 10:52pm

BTW Porn, what happened to "I never post on Liverpool threads" ?

He doesn,t this is a portsmouth thread.;)

bbop · 19-10-2003 7:46am

Liverpools main problem that i can see, and i am a pool supporter, is Steven Gerrard. He has one big game and then doesnt perform for another month, i believe that the English press has over-hyped him big time, probably jealous that they dont have a truly world class defensive midfielder ala viera or keane, one 50 yard pass does not make for a great performance.
Houllier needs to go and fast this season is virtually destroyed already and i think all supporters are getting sick of his comments , u can only be unlucky so many times without realising maybe we are just ****e. We have a good, not great team and should easily in the champions league places but under Houllier it wont happen :horned:

Big Ears · 19-10-2003 10:07am

speaking of Heskey up front does any1 else remember liverpool had the chance to sign 10 goals in 9 games Anelka not too long ago.Houlier probably thought sure if you have heskey why buy Anelka ?

bbop · 19-10-2003 10:22am

ah yes, why would we want him, he has bags of pace scores loads of goals. Christ i hate Houllier

Oswald Osbourne · 19-10-2003 10:36am

Originally posted by Big Ears
remember liverpool had the chance to sign 10 goals in 9 games Anelka

That's all well and good but the thing is he was 4 goals in 20 games during his time with Liverpool. Hardly the form he's demonstrated of late.

smemon · 19-10-2003 1:11pm

Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
Excuses have run out for GH. Either the team begins to perform or its time to leave. 3 losses in a row is starting to look like the beginning of another bad run just like the one last year.

it's a miricle, pool fans want houllier out. 3 loses in a row now and that SURELY must be enough for the board to sack him.

they've lost 4, drew 2 won 3, thats pretty pathetic for a so-called top club. their season is basically over, they'll be challenging for 4th place again.

defeats against the arse and chelsea shows their out of their depth. over-rated and cant keep up with the big boys.

jesus_thats_gre · 19-10-2003 2:08pm

Originally posted by smemon
it's a miricle, pool fans want houllier out. 3 loses in a row now and that SURELY must be enough for the board to sack him.

they've lost 4, drew 2 won 3, thats pretty pathetic for a so-called top club. their season is basically over, they'll be challenging for 4th place again.

defeats against the arse and chelsea shows their out of their depth. over-rated and cant keep up with the big boys.

And to think you were beginning to win me over..... :ninja:

The board wont sack him and I dont want them too. I want him to take a walk upstairs to be honest, and I want him to do it on his own gumption.

The from you presented above makes pretty grim reading, but does include Arsenal and Chelsea.

GuanYin · 19-10-2003 2:21pm

Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
And to think you were beginning to win me over..... :ninja:

The board wont sack him and I dont want them too. I want him to take a walk upstairs to be honest, and I want him to do it on his own gumption.

The from you presented above makes pretty grim reading, but does include Arsenal and Chelsea.

Ya know guys, there are 29 games left in the season (30 in some cases).

Its way to early to right anyone off, especially now as some of the bigger teams are more equipped to take points off each other.

All it takes is Arsenal to get a huge suspension crisis, Utd to lose Van Nist to injury and err... I think you'd need to hit the chelsea training ground with a plane for them to have an injury crisis, but my point is, its too early and anything can happen.

The Muppet · 19-10-2003 2:52pm

All it takes is Arsenal to get a huge suspension crisis, Utd to lose Van Nist to injury and err... I think you'd need to hit the chelsea training ground with a plane for them to have an injury crisis, .

Yeah lads don,t get disheartened , If you can get the above to happen and get Birmingham, Fulham,Man City and Southampton, to fall to pieces, all you need then is a couple of players and a manager that actually knows what he's doing and with a bit of luck you could get right back in it:D

Seriously though they could do with Anelka with owen out , how Gh let him go for baros is puzzling. Another bizarre gamble that failed to pay off.

GuanYin · 19-10-2003 3:01pm

Originally posted by The Muppet

Seriously though they could do with Anelka with owen out , how Gh let him go for baros is puzzling. Another bizarre gamble that failed to pay off.

Generally I agree, but the fact that Anelka has rediscovered his scoring boots probably has as much to do with playing in Kevin "why bother defending, just attack" Keegans team as it does the players ability.
Put Baros in A Keegan team and arguably he could do as well....

Conversely, put Anelka in a GH team...oh no, we did that one already!

smemon · 19-10-2003 3:10pm

Originally posted by sykeirl
Ya know guys, there are 29 games left in the season (30 in some cases).

Its way to early to right anyone off, especially now as some of the bigger teams are more equipped to take points off each other.

i said houllier should go after the 1st match, but that was too early to judge a team, according to everyone. now 9matches in and 4 defeats later its till too early.

were a quarter through the season, arsenal, chelsea, man utd, birmingham, man city, fulham, sthamptn,portsmouth are all ahead of liverpool, charlton and newcastle are also in a better position than them (they've a game in hand and could overtake liverpool). it is relatively early, i know that but obviously spurs didnt think it was too early to sack hoddle. or roeder for that matter.

i'll never understand why houllier has heroic status at liverpool despite being one of their worst ever managers. he's won nothing major and cant get consistent results or performances.

"if we sack houllier, who's out there thats better?" thatl be the next question. answer: ANYONE.

GuanYin · 19-10-2003 3:13pm

Originally posted by smemon
i said houllier should go after the 1st match, but that was too early to judge a team, according to everyone. now 9matches in and 4 defeats later its till too early.

You misunderstand me, my dear smemon, I never said it was too early to sack GH, I said it was too early to write anyone off.

If 'pool were to "promote" GH and install a world class manager they could still bounce back. Wins against Utd and Arsenal would haul them straight back into contention.

Not gonna happen with the current set up. If I were them I'd act sooner, give the new manager time to prepare for January sales.

jesus_thats_gre · 19-10-2003 3:19pm

Originally posted by sykeirl
Wins against Utd and Arsenal would haul them straight back into contention.

To be honest, they would probably win those two games and then loose to Villa, Leeds, Wolves and Leicster in a row.

The Muppet · 19-10-2003 3:21pm

If 'pool were to "promote" GH and install a world class manager they could still bounce back.

I dont agree. They do not have the quality in their side that either Utd or Arsenal have. If Gh went now they are going to have to get rid of a lot of Average players and buy some Quality before the challenge for the title. If the continue as the are by January they will be well out of it.

You misunderstand me, my dear smemon,

Either your on the happy pills of those bugs you work with are affecting you:D

GuanYin · 19-10-2003 3:26pm

Originally posted by The Muppet
I dont agree.

nuthin unusual there.
You'd argue for the sake of it :P

Originally posted by The Muppet

Either your on the happy pills of those bugs you work with are affecting you:D

Not at all, just coz I don't always agree with someone, doesn't mean I take it personally, one day you will learn that

jesus_thats_gre · 19-10-2003 3:31pm

Oh this is is going down an all too familiar road....

It think I will go spam a United thread :ninja: :ninja:

The Muppet · 19-10-2003 3:52pm

nuthin unusual there.
You'd argue for the sake of it

Did you not read the rest of my post explaining why I didn,t agree.

Posted by Jesus thas great
Oh this is is going down an all too familiar road....

Dont worry jesus I have no intention of joining in his childish games.

jesus_thats_gre · 19-10-2003 4:06pm

Originally posted by The Muppet
Dont worry jesus I have no intention of joining in his childish games.

Very subtle there Muppet.. ha ha

I wonder if he can resist. I feel a rant coming on and rightly so!

GuanYin · 19-10-2003 4:11pm

Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
Very subtle there Muppet.. ha ha

I wonder if he can resist. I feel a rant coming on and rightly so!

Mneh, why bother, he's not even trying anymore.

James Hunt · 19-10-2003 4:23pm

Liverpool Football Club are a pathetic shambles of what they used to be in the 70's and 80's.

Thats the bottom line folks.

Houllier, Heskey, Igor Biscan, the board, the fans - the are all to blame. They all accepted second best - and now its all they have. Houllier reminds me of a politician defending the latest scandal, all huff and bluster - 'we only have half a team' - no fan in their right mind would accept that, because injuries are part of the game. It says a lot that he would use that as an excuse and it says a lot more that the fans and the board take that ****e from him. Is he taking the piss?

Pathetic. Truly and utterly pathetic.

jesus_thats_gre · 19-10-2003 5:07pm

Originally posted by James Hunt
Liverpool Football Club are a pathetic shambles of what they used to be in the 70's and 80's.

Thats the bottom line folks.

Houllier, Heskey, Igor Biscan, the board, the fans - the are all to blame. They all accepted second best - and now its all they have. Houllier reminds me of a politician defending the latest scandal, all huff and bluster - 'we only have half a team' - no fan in their right mind would accept that, because injuries are part of the game. It says a lot that he would use that as an excuse and it says a lot more that the fans and the board take that ****e from him. Is he taking the piss?

Pathetic. Truly and utterly pathetic.

Right......

smemon · 19-10-2003 10:47pm

have to agree with james, they've (the fans) accepted a crap manager and a crap team and worship them like idiots.

granted they have a few quality players and have transformed the style of play. diao, diouf, baros, heskey, smicer, dudek..... not exactly potential championship winning players.

i think the pool fans and board have gone beyond loyalty, no matter what results pool get, the fans will predictably jump to defend GH. you just wonder, what do liverpool fans actually expect to win under houllier??

Oswald Osbourne · 19-10-2003 11:08pm

Originally posted by smemon
i think the pool fans and board have gone beyond loyalty, no matter what results pool get, the fans will predictably jump to defend GH.

Actually I don't think the fans want him at all. I was listening to that radioshow 606 on saturday and the switchboard was apparently jammed with Liverpool fans wanting GH's head on a plate (or at least his letter of resignation). The presenter was making the point that the board seem to be the only people at the club still backing him and that since they call the shots then the fans will have to put up with him for another while yet.

StickyMcGinty · 19-10-2003 11:17pm

Originally posted by James Hunt
Liverpool Football Club are a pathetic shambles of what they used to be in the 70's and 80's.

Thats the bottom line folks.

Houllier, Heskey, Igor Biscan, the board, the fans - the are all to blame. They all accepted second best - and now its all they have. Houllier reminds me of a politician defending the latest scandal, all huff and bluster - 'we only have half a team' - no fan in their right mind would accept that, because injuries are part of the game. It says a lot that he would use that as an excuse and it says a lot more that the fans and the board take that ****e from him. Is he taking the piss?

Pathetic. Truly and utterly pathetic.

right about houlliers comments, wrong about the fans.

jesus_thats_gre · 20-10-2003 11:04am

Originally posted by smemon
have to agree with james, they've (the fans) accepted a crap manager and a crap team and worship them like idiots.

granted they have a few quality players and have transformed the style of play. diao, diouf, baros, heskey, smicer, dudek..... not exactly potential championship winning players.

i think the pool fans and board have gone beyond loyalty, no matter what results pool get, the fans will predictably jump to defend GH. you just wonder, what do liverpool fans actually expect to win under houllier??

As a fan, its an impossible situation for a fan. When you love a team, you are gonna defend them more than you would if you were sane.

As for the list, Dudek or Diouf dont deserve to be in there, nor does Baros actually :ninja:

cournioni · 20-10-2003 11:06am

Originally posted by brucealmighty
He doesn,t this is a portsmouth thread.;)

Exactly...

Kone · 20-10-2003 5:11pm

Originally posted by Kaimera
as a LFC fan..it pains me to say this but we haven't been a great club for years

I am a LFC fan and I totally agree with you

smemon · 20-10-2003 5:51pm

if all the fans want houllier out, why dont they make it clear to the board and team by booing them at the next home match if they dont win???

phoning in on some radio show aint gonna change anything. look at us irish fans, we booed mc carthy after 2 losses and he never came back. the fans HAVE ALL THE POWER. if a majority want houllier out they should let that be known at anfield.

jesus_thats_gre · 20-10-2003 8:55pm

Originally posted by smemon
if all the fans want houllier out, why dont they make it clear to the board and team by booing them at the next home match if they dont win???

phoning in on some radio show aint gonna change anything. look at us irish fans, we booed mc carthy after 2 losses and he never came back. the fans HAVE ALL THE POWER. if a majority want houllier out they should let that be known at anfield.

I think ur a closet Liverpool supporter!

super_furry · 21-10-2003 10:14am

if all the fans want houllier out, why dont they make it clear to the board and team by booing them at the next home match if they dont win???

phoning in on some radio show aint gonna change anything. look at us irish fans, we booed mc carthy after 2 losses and he never came back. the fans HAVE ALL THE POWER. if a majority want houllier out they should let that be known at anfield.

Because that's not the way Liverpool supporters behave. They will support the manager and players for the full 90 minutes and I doubt you'll ever hear chants of 'Houllier out.'

Regarding your second point, I don't think that majority of match-going Liverpool supporters want Houllier's head on a plate just yet. Foriegn supporters (such as ourselves) are often out of touch with the opinion of local supporters - as for the people who spout their ***** on phone in shows, we'll they're just muppets.

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