[Article] Dublin commuting costs three times as high as other cities

gombín

Originally posted by Floater

We are back to non-compliance with the Vienna Convention again.

To the best of my knowledge, we are not signatories of the Vienna Convention on Traffic, making "non-compliance" a tad difficult.

The international standard background colour for parking signs is blue, not white. (see file attachment)

By international, I presume you mean any of the European signatories of the convention. Try telling the other 6 billion on the planet that they are "wrong".

(1) The sign designating parking areas is a white “P” on a blue background.

White

(2) The sign prohibiting parking (or waiting in your stopped vehicle) also has a blue background with a red circle and a diagonal line through it. It goes back to school days. When the teacher drew a circle around something or put a line through it with a red pen it was to signify that the item in question was wrong.

As above

(3) The no stopping sign (so called “clearway”) is similar to (2) but has a double red diagonal line (in X format) against the blue background.

You're correct on this score.

(4) These design, colour and standardization subtleties seem to have escaped the notice of Irish road sign designers. On many Irish roundabouts one can find an arrow purporting to point in the direction one should travel around the roundabout in the middle of a red circle (ie a prohibition symbol). (4b correct, 4a incorrect)

Prohibiting you from travelling in any direction save the one indicated.

One way streets are also frequently signposted with an arrow surrounded by a red circle – the arrow pointing down the direction one is required to travel. Clueless, dyslexic sign designers!

As you say above, a prohibition symbol.

Then there is the missing "No entry" sign - ie a red circle with a white barrier through the middle. Red = prohibition and the white barrier closing the route to vehicles facing it. Universal across the planet and if there is life on any other planet I have no doubt that they use it there too! But not in Ireland.

Quite logical if you think about it. It's the same as above with the prohibition diagonal included.

s it any wonder that over 90% of visitors to Ireland who happen to drive in the country find it appallingly signposted? There is a total disregard for European and international standards and basic logic. Zero consistency.

Heaven forbid if they were to try driving in America.

It is difficult enough to have to drive on the wrong side of the road without having to put up with confusing signposting, the continuous mixing of System International and British imperial measurements, signs pointing in the wrong direction, the wrong signs pointing in the right direction…. a total dogs dinner of incompetence.

When is it going to end?

Probably when we join a European federal-state. There's is nothing wrong with our system, save the fact that it is different to some of the ones on the continent or across the water. Change to metric and leave it as it is. If continentals don't understand it, then their logic need checking.

Regards.

Floater

Originally posted by gombín
To the best of my knowledge, we are not signatories of the Vienna Convention on Traffic,

Why hasn’t Ireland either signed or implemented the standards of the Vienna Convention on traffic signposting? Every other European country has.

Virtually every other country on the planet uses this system - China, Japan, Korea, Russia, India, every country in the Middle East and Africa, South and Central America, Mexico … I’m running out of countries. Even the insular Americans use the Vienna Convention no entry sign. How do you arrive at 6bn please?

All out of step except my Jonnie?

How many visitors to Ireland die or are injured every year as a result of signposting issues? How many Irish citizens who live outside the country are involved in accidents in Ireland because of signposting negligence.

How many Irish residents are involved in accidents in the rest of the world (including Northern Ireland) because they are not familiar with the universal signage system used across the planet?

Smoking is bad for your health and the state is finally waking up to its responsibilities in this area. One wonders when will “Bord Failte” advertising material and websites warn visitors about the non-compliant state of the nation's signposting system?

This has nothing to do with a "European Federal State". It is a global UN standard that has been implemented by virtually the entire world, except Ireland.

Floater

Victor

Originally posted by Floater
How many visitors to Ireland die or are injured every year as a result of signposting issues? .

About 4-6 non-Irish (republic) people are killed on our roads every year out of circa 400 killed.

Originally posted by Floater
How many Irish citizens who live outside the country are involved in accidents in Ireland because of signposting negligence. How many Irish residents are involved in accidents in the rest of the world (including Northern Ireland) because they are not familiar with the universal signage system used across the planet?

Very difficult to estimate other than trawling through statistics from nearly 200 countries and news reports.

Floater

Originally posted by Victor

About 4-6 non-Irish (republic) people are killed on our roads every year out of circa 400 killed

Where did you get that number from? I suspect that it is a lot higher than that when you consider the number of people who visit the Republic from northern Ireland and the high accident rate they seem to incur. According to http://www.gov.ie/debates-00/23feb/sect5.htm 10% of road accidents involve a "foreign" driver.

Floater

Floater

"The tourist board says Ireland is not living up to its tourist potential because the government is failing to tackle problems such as signposting and litter control.

A survey published this morning shows that most visitors rated our litter problem as `terrible`, with particular mention being paid to dog droppings.

Many tourists also complained of the anxiety caused by poor signposting on the road network.

Seán Quinn is the Chief Executive of Fáilte Ireland. He says the survey`s findings come as no suprise."

Floater


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