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GuanYin

Originally posted by The Muppet
Of course but it really only matters in May. Who will be reading it and weeping then? Its not usually Utd supporters.:D

Have you a link for last years one at this time?

Then why don't you wait til May before writing off Liverpool? Seeing as its only in May that their league placing matters?

The Muppet

Then why don't you wait til May before writing off Liverpool? QUOTE]

Show me where I wrote of Liverpool or anyone else.

GuanYin

Originally posted by The Muppet

Then why don't you wait til May before writing off Liverpool? QUOTE]

Show me where I wrote of Liverpool or anyone else.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=1165815#post1165815

Of course its hard to find all instances due to the signal to noise ratio from you smemon and Pornapster.

The Muppet

IF they continue as they are by January they will be well out of it.

That is what i said in the post you linked. Notice the first word in this sentence. I have not written Liverpool off for the titile but to expect both Arsenal Chelsea and Man Utd all to drop the amount of points to enable Liverpool to win it would be very unlikely.

You appear to read and see what you want in certain instances and dont let little things like the actual content sway your opinion.

marct

Anyhoo, back on topic. Cisse for 2Mill!! Some damn fine business there from Houllier..
http://itv-football.co.uk/Teams/Liverpool/story_89831.shtml

jonno

I really hope we get Cisse. It seems Liverpool is the only club he wants to go to and I hope this holds out. For 2million we have another steel on our hands just like Mr. Kewell. Imagine Owen and Cisse up front

As for Rivaldo I don't know where he would play unless Hamann leaeves and Gerrard holds onto the holding midfield role. After Cisse I only wish for one more player and thats Boumsong or a pacey defender of his quality to partner Hyypia.

The Muppet

back on topic ok. I read that the interview with Michael Owen that has caused such a stir this week actually took place last August and is not as was reporterd in some quaters a new statement from him. It Looks Like the tabloids are just stirring again.

Space Coyote

Getting Cissé, if we definitely do, is more a steal than Harry even. Class bit of business. Just hope Man U or some other fúckers don't come in an steal him. If we got Rivaldo (i don't think he'd do much for us, he's far too lazy) he could be used instead of smicer or murphy, who i think are lucky to be still involved in the team. Smicer has played bette rthis season in fairness, but Murphy has been rubbish since the last third of last season. He plays a brilliant pass or two the odd time, but a lot of the time his passing can be atrocious. What did he do in the Man Utd game apart from that killer ball to Heskey ?

midget lord

Originally posted by Rodney Trotter
What's with this "WE" lark?

What do you do for the club, apart from support it? If nothing, then you should use the word "THEY".

I use "We" to describe all those associated with LFC to include supporters, players, anfield staff etc etc. I buy the jerseys, hence make a contribtion to the club so would include myself in "we".

GuanYin

Originally posted by The Muppet
That is what i said in the post you linked. Notice the first word in this sentence. I have not written Liverpool off for the titile but to expect both Arsenal Chelsea and Man Utd all to drop the amount of points to enable Liverpool to win it would be very unlikely.

You appear to read and see what you want in certain instances and dont let little things like the actual content sway your opinion.

Sorry for going of topic.

The original quote was

If 'pool were to "promote" GH and install a world class manager they could still bounce back.

Originally posted by The Muppet
I dont agree. They do not have the quality in their side that either Utd or Arsenal have.

So you don't agree with that or you do? You say here you don't agree they could bounce back with a new manager. So either you are implying that Liverpool can't bounce back at all, or that they can do it fine with GH in charge. All the Ifs youadd in after mean nowt if you say you don't agree with the actual original premise.

You appear to remember and see things the way you like in certain instances and dont let little things like the actual content sway your opinion.

Rodney Trotter

So to sum up, Houllier should be promoted and replaced then Pool will do something?

1. Promote him, for what? Seems to me he's messed up things big time and has wasted an inordinate amount of money.

2. What is a new manager going to buy players with? To turn Pool into a championship winning team let alone which could compete in Europe would take a hell of a lot of money, at least £50m. Poll don't have the sort of revenue to bankroll that, and that's without building a new stadium.

And, yet again, how does buying a jersey entitle one to use "We"?
By the logic used, anyone with a Vodafone phone can use "WE" when talking about the Man Utd team, FERRARI F1 team or even the England Rugby team.

TwoShedsJackson

Originally posted by Rodney Trotter

And, yet again, how does buying a jersey entitle one to use "We"?
By the logic used, anyone with a Vodafone phone can use "WE" when talking about the Man Utd team, FERRARI F1 team or even the England Rugby team.

Shut the fuck up Rodney.

marct

Originally posted by TwoShedsJackson
Shut the fuck up Rodney.

Yeah, Dave!:p

Rodney Trotter

OK Trigger!

Doctor J

Support your local team, gents. This fascination with English soccer drains money out of Irish football and ensures English teams have new stadia to play in.

Liverpool are an English team, buying a Liverpool jersey just ensures the English FA have a bigger pool of resources to draw upon.

Bohs VS Shels tonight in Dalymount. Let's see Irish people support Irish football for a change.

marct

Originally posted by Doctor J
Support your local team, gents. This fascination with English soccer drains money out of Irish football and ensures English teams have new stadia to play in.

Liverpool are an English team, buying a Liverpool jersey just ensures the English FA have a bigger pool of resources to draw upon.

Bohs VS Shels tonight in Dalymount. Let's see Irish people support Irish football for a change.

Agreed! I support both- Cork city for my troubles- Pat Dolan's red and white army;)

Thanx 4 The Fish

Originally posted by TwoShedsJackson
Shut the fuck up Rodney.

Easy there Sheds. That is just not on.

The Muppet

So you don't agree with that or you do? You say here you don't agree they could bounce back with a new manager. So either you are implying that Liverpool can't bounce back at all, or that they can do it fine with GH in charge. All the Ifs youadd in after mean nowt if you say you don't agree with the actual original premise.

At this stage last year I thought Utd had no chance of the title so
I would not rule any of the top teams from winning this years one. That said the top 3 would all have to flop pretty badly to drop enough points to let the others win it.

You said I had written Liverpool off this year and that is a misrepresetation of what I said. I did say that if they didnt improve on their results to date they will be out of the running by Christmas. I think even the most ardent Liverpool fan can see that .

smemon

rodneys talking sense, tells it as it is. we're sick of this liverpool propaganda stuff and anti-manu attitude.

>back on topic, the pool need about 8 quality players if their gonna get anywere. cisse is a good player, although not great. saha would be better, if i were GH i'd have my eye on viduka and get him while he's cheap.

uberwolf

he wouldn't want viduka for the same reason he rejected anelka, and for the same reason he may reject Rivaldo...

smemon

Originally posted by uberwolf
he wouldn't want viduka for the same reason he rejected anelka, and for the same reason he may reject Rivaldo...

because he cant spot an talent and ability???

Rodney Trotter

But hasn't GH bought Diao, Smicer, Heskey, Riise, etc., an array of useless talent. If he was in charge of a normal business and spent like that he would have been out on his ear long ago.

Look at his current team?
Dudek? Not up to it. Contender for Man Utd POY two seasons on the trot.
Hechoz? The ultimate in cheating c-back. Nasty spoiler, again not good enough.
Carragher, Not good enough,
Hyppia? Fading away by the game
Hamman? Not good enough
Kewell? Fancy boy. The odd goal maybe but nothing constructive.
Little Mickey? No decent service so he'll have to continue his diving and cheating.
Heskey? Enough said. (And he cost £11m?)

The only players worth their salt are Gerrard (headless sometimes) and little mickey.

The Muppet

Look at his current team?
Dudek? Not up to it. Contender for Man Utd POY two seasons on the trot.
Hechoz? The ultimate in cheating c-back. Nasty spoiler, again not good enough.
Carragher, Not good enough,
Hyppia? Fading away by the game
Hamman? Not good enough
Kewell? Fancy boy. The odd goal maybe but nothing constructive.
Little Mickey? No decent service so he'll have to continue his diving and cheating.
Heskey? Enough said. (And he cost £11m?)

You,re very hard on them , at least they are consistant.:D

Big Ears

Originally posted by Doctor J
Support your local team, gents. This fascination with English soccer drains money out of Irish football and ensures English teams have new stadia to play in.

Liverpool are an English team, buying a Liverpool jersey just ensures the English FA have a bigger pool of resources to draw upon.

Bohs VS Shels tonight in Dalymount. Let's see Irish people support Irish football for a change.

thats all well and good but i live in North Tiperary and just like its a long long way to tipperary its a long way to the nearest premier side when ur too young to drive.

P.S. i support shels and do this by watching the yoke on tv.3

Thanx 4 The Fish

Originally posted by Rodney Trotter
But hasn't GH bought Diao, Smicer, Heskey, Riise, etc., an array of useless talent. If he was in charge of a normal business and spent like that he would have been out on his ear long ago.

Look at his current team?
Dudek? Not up to it. Contender for Man Utd POY two seasons on the trot.
Hechoz? The ultimate in cheating c-back. Nasty spoiler, again not good enough.
Carragher, Not good enough,
Hyppia? Fading away by the game
Hamman? Not good enough
Kewell? Fancy boy. The odd goal maybe but nothing constructive.
Little Mickey? No decent service so he'll have to continue his diving and cheating.
Heskey? Enough said. (And he cost £11m?)

The only players worth their salt are Gerrard (headless sometimes) and little mickey.

Would I be wrong in saying that you are a Man U fan Rodney. This is the same Kewell that Man U were chasing last season, and as for Michael Diving and cheating, perhaps he has been watching videos of RVN, who could easily win any olympic diving contest.

marct

Originally posted by smemon
rodneys talking sense, tells it as it is. we're sick of this liverpool propaganda stuff and anti-manu attitude.

>back on topic, the pool need about 8 quality players if their gonna get anywere. cisse is a good player, although not great. saha would be better, if i were GH i'd have my eye on viduka and get him while he's cheap.

If you think Saha is better then Cisse you might want to get down to Specsavers:cool: If that were the case he would be in the French squad, non?

Space Coyote

Saha better than Cissé !? Surely smemon is extracting the urine with said comment...

marct

Originally posted by Rodney Trotter
But hasn't GH bought Diao, Smicer, Heskey, Riise, etc., an array of useless talent. If he was in charge of a normal business and spent like that he would have been out on his ear long ago.

Look at his current team?
Dudek? Not up to it. Contender for Man Utd POY two seasons on the trot.
Hechoz? The ultimate in cheating c-back. Nasty spoiler, again not good enough.
Carragher, Not good enough,
Hyppia? Fading away by the game
Hamman? Not good enough
Kewell? Fancy boy. The odd goal maybe but nothing constructive.
Little Mickey? No decent service so he'll have to continue his diving and cheating.
Heskey? Enough said. (And he cost £11m?)

The only players worth their salt are Gerrard (headless sometimes) and little mickey.

Dudek- better for far longer than bloody Howard!
Henchoz- A spoiler he may be but he'd walk into almost any centre half partnership in the Prem.
Carra- Solid
Hyppia- I'd rather have him than 25m overpriced and soon not to be playing Rio.
Hamman- Now you're just being silly!
Kewell- Fergie fancies him even if you dont.
Owen- Trotting behind RVN in the cheating stakes.
Heskey- Agreed!:D

The Muppet

Would I be wrong in saying that you are a Man U fan Rodney. This is the same Kewell that Man U were chasing last season, and as for Michael Diving and cheating, perhaps he has been watching videos of RVN, who could easily win any olympic diving contest.

Would I be wrong in saying that you are not a Man U fan Fishy.:D

Unless yez get very delayed premiership coverage down in the sticks I dont know where you are seeing yer football. I have not seen RVN dive in a match in nearly a year. If you like to make some recent comparisons I suggest Pires or Pongool or if it must be a utd player Ronaldo would be more up to date examples to use.:D

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by The Muppet
If you like to make some recent comparisons I suggest Pires or Pongool or if it must be a utd player Ronaldo would be more up to date examples to use.:D

Come on chap.. Ruud is a diving bollox, its part of his game and everyone knows it. It is ok to suggest that the penalty decision in the match was 50 50, but Pongolle didnt dive. You are just being difficult.

As for Saha being better that Cisse, I cant disagree more.

The Muppet

Come on chap.. Ruud is a diving bollox, its part of his game and everyone knows it.

I think the neutrals would agree that this is an aspect tha Fergie has removed from his game. There was a thread here not so long ago that would support this view.

Caesar_Bojangle

Whats this I hear about Rivaldo?

Johnny_the_fox

Originally posted by Caesar_Bojangle
Whats this I hear about Rivaldo?

Skysports reported it - > here

"It is true that I am talking with Liverpool," he commented. "But the negotiations still have not finished and I cannot say anything more."

but liverpool have denied it...

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by The Muppet
I think the neutrals would agree that this is an aspect tha Fergie has removed from his game. There as a thred here not so long ago that would support this view.

Maybe you are right. Still have no addressed the Pongolle thing though.

The Muppet

Maybe you are right. Still have no addressed the Pongolle thing though.

Still have not changed my opinion.;)

Even some liverpool supporters admit that he " blatently dived " in the Utd. game.

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by The Muppet
Still have not changed my opinion.;)

Even some liverpool supporters admit that he " blatently dived " in the Utd. game.

Eh, where does jonno say that he dived?

Originally posted by Jonno
I think it was a penalty and I think Graham Poll bottled it as it was a game breaker. Like if Pongolle had dived why was he not yellow carded because he had blatently dived a few minutes before. Ronaldo gets carded for diving. What I'm getting at is, if Poll didn't think it was a foul why didin't he have a word with Pongy fro diving. It leads me to only one conclusion. There was grounds for a peno and he bottled it especially after seeing O'Brein being red carded and conceding a peno for fouling a man outside the box. It defies logic

The Muppet

Eh, where does jonno say that he dived?

Eh Here.

Posted by Jono

Like if Pongolle had dived why was he not yellow carded because he had blatently dived a few minutes before

jesus_thats_gre

I may be wrong, but was that not posed more as a question?

Look at his logic. He is saying that if the ref decided it was not a penalty, then he must have thought Pongolle dived. If he dived, he should have got a yello card, which he did not...



Note the first line of his post.

I think it was a penalty and I think Graham Poll bottled it as it was a game breaker.

So, to the conclusion. Lets break his post into small managable quotes.

I think it was a penalty and I think Graham Poll bottled it as it was a game breaker

Suggests it should have been a penalty

Like if Pongolle had dived why was he not yellow carded because he had blatently dived a few minutes before. Ronaldo gets carded for diving

If he dived, he should have been booked..

What I'm getting at is, if Poll didn't think it was a foul why didin't he have a word with Pongy fro diving.

If he dived, he should have been booked..

t leads me to only one conclusion. There was grounds for a peno and he bottled it especially after seeing O'Brein being red carded and conceding a peno for fouling a man outside the box. It defies logic

Suggests it should have been a penalty, again...




JONNO, am I right?

PHB

Maybe it should have been a peno, maybe it shouldn't have been, I think it should have been, but the problem is that the ref decided it shouldn't.
The problem is the rule that you have to give someone the red if they are last man back. They should change this rule.

As for the game, everyone knew this game would come down to a bit of luck as it always does.

jesus_thats_gre

I love the sound of silence Muppet....




Back on topic so

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3274751.stm

irishgeo

Originally posted by Johnny_the_fox
Skysports reported it - > here



but liverpool have denied it...

Just like they denied all knowledge of Kewell

Space Coyote

Sig disrupted by LUAS works.
_______________________

brilliant geo

The Muppet

I love the sound of silence Muppet....

What part of "he had blatently dived a few minutes before." is confusing you. That is what jono said while talking about an incident in the match regarding pongool.

You can try twist his words as much as you like but the meaning of the above quote is blatently clear.


Btw i notice you keep refering to the penalty incident. That is not what I or Jono are talking about in this instance.

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by The Muppet


What part of "he had blatently dived a few minutes before." is confusing you. That is what jono said while talking about an incident in the match regarding pongool.

You can try twist his words as much as you like but the meaning of the above quote is blatently clear.


Btw i notice you keep refering to the penalty incident. That is not what I or Jono are talking about in this instance.

Do you fancy telling me what the hell you are talking about then? The post you have referred too is clearly about the penalty decision for the United and Liverpool match...

Again, a number of posts ago you referred to Pongolle as a diver, I said that was not true and you referred to Jonno's post to highlight a Liverpool supporter agreeing with you..

Where as, the post you referred to does not say that at all. It says the total opposite..

So once again, what are you talking about?

Space Coyote

How does it feel to have yer underscores amputated jesus?
Must be a relief...I'm following yer lead and asking for the same operation. Death to the underscore !

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by Space_Coyote
How does it feel to have yer underscores amputated jesus?
Must be a relief...I'm following yer lead and asking for the same operation. Death to the underscore !

I have to admit to having felt a bit dirty everytime I saw em.. I kept thinking that if I ignored them, they would just go away but it never happened. Then I met some capital letters and we developed a good relationship, it was them that helped me overcome my fears of loosing my underscores.. It feels different still, but I thinking will work out for the best...

Ahem

The Muppet

Do you fancy telling me what the hell you are talking about then?

I knew you were confused so i,ll give a short recap for ye.

I said pongool could be condidered as a diver. You disputed my point . I pointed out to you that even a Liverpool supporter (jono)commented in a post that Pongool had dived in the Utd match with the comment below he made about him.

Originally Posted By jono commenting on pongool

he had blatently dived a few minutes before

I hope thats clear enough for you.:D

Rodney Trotter

Two things.

1. Tha lad dived. (Straight out of the Heskey-Owen school of gravity loss.)

2. As far as I could see the ref did not award a penalty.
(Any debate on the issue is irrelevant, anyone claiming it was apeno is sadly, for them, mistaken.)

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by The Muppet
I knew you were confused so i,ll give a short recap for ye.

I said pongool could be condidered as a diver. You disputed my point . I pointed out to you that even a Liverpool supporter (jono)commented in a post that Pongool had dived in the Utd match with the comment below he made about him.



I hope thats clear enough for you.:D

Yeah that is what I thought you were talking about... I have a feeling that Jonno's statement was misunderstood and that he does not actually mean that....

Good to see you negated my sarcasm with your own sarcasm.. We can end this one so

marct

Originally posted by Rodney Trotter
Two things.

1. Tha lad dived. (Straight out of the Heskey-Owen school of gravity loss.)

2. As far as I could see the ref did not award a penalty.
(Any debate on the issue is irrelevant, anyone claiming it was apeno is sadly, for them, mistaken.)

He did'nt dive and has'nt dived yet. And I've seen that book in Waterstone's but was'nt it written by a famous Dutchman?:p