Arsenal see Red Again

jank

Originally posted by Rodney Trotter2


Jank??? You've mispelled the first letter of your username!

oh hohoho rodney your sooooooooooo funny!!
like NOBODY said that to me before
aint that right muppet!

Who said they are the worst team ever? Maybe they are, I guess at the moment they are!

comment of the year there i think! :rolleyes:

spoken like the true idiot you are

jank

and nobody has yet to make any comment on howie's 50 yard run to confront cole

maybe he wanted him to leave the pitch early eh?

ZENER

oh hohoho rodney your sooooooooooo funny!!
like NOBODY said that to me before

and does it not make you wonder why its still being said ????


Tinky

SCULLY

The Cole tackle was brutal , as was Gerrards and both deserve to be banned (I agree with a previous post that the after match apology is only a pr exercise). I do think that the papers seem to home in on Arsenal discretions but the clubs total backing of their players regardless of the incidents, only gets peoples back's up, which seems to fuel the papers even more.

I was thinking that it was great to read a thread without roy keane been mentioned but that was rectified quickly.

Dustaz

As a matter of interest, Do the urd fans think that Cantona should have been banned for his habit of two footed tackles?

cournioni

Originally posted by Dustaz
As a matter of interest, Do the urd fans think that Cantona should have been banned for his habit of two footed tackles?

What relevance does that have to this thread?

Dustaz

Just that they were his stock in trade for a while and it goes to show that unless these sort of tackles are proven to be malicious (stand up mr keane), they generally go unpunished past the initial ban incurred by the red card.

Im just wondering whats changed to make the manu fans who are well used to this suddenly start screaming for blood. Surely they dont need some more extra help from the FA for this years title push?

cournioni

Originally posted by Dustaz
Just that they were his stock in trade for a while and it goes to show that unless these sort of tackles are proven to be malicious (stand up mr keane), they generally go unpunished past the initial ban incurred by the red card.

Im just wondering whats changed to make the manu fans who are well used to this suddenly start screaming for blood. Surely they dont need some more extra help from the FA for this years title push?

But how many red cards did United get in 5-6 years? Surely not 50+, I think that is the reason for this thread.

Cantona and Keane may have been bad, but Vieira and a few others at Arsenal are worse. Vieira has already surpassed Keane's red card tally AFAIK, and he is only 27 or 28. He'll probably catch up with their combined tally soon enough. And Cole, at his age is already heading down that road.

Are you saying that you weren't screaming for blood when Cantona and Keane were in their prime?

Dustaz

The difference is that viera or cole have never been banned for incidents that go beyond normal 'field of play' occurances.

Maybe if paddy used his suspension to plot his revenge on ruud, or Cole flings himself over a barrier to attack a fan, Ill come down a little heavier on them.

I guess what im trying to say is that yes, Arsenal have a bad disciplinary record and they pay the price for it in incurred suspensions but there is nothing in coles tackle that warrants any sort of extended ban past the one he will automatically incur.

cournioni

Originally posted by Dustaz
The difference is that viera or cole have never been banned for incidents that go beyond normal 'field of play' occurances.

Maybe if paddy used his suspension to plot his revenge on ruud, or Cole flings himself over a barrier to attack a fan, Ill come down a little heavier on them.

Exactly, I would come down hard on Cole and Vieira, but it's not like you haven't called for blood when Keane made that challenge. And possibly the same for the Cantona incident. We are doing the exact same thing here. We are defending the players that play for the team we support. We are criticising the players that commit offences at other clubs. Its just natural.

Thanx 4 The Fish

True, PORN, it is natural but it is not a good thing. I have not defended SG's tackle on the weekend. Now I could have butit would have been wrong, just as somebody defending ashley coles tackle wuold be wrong or somebody else defending Keane who plenned to tackle a guy badly. If it was a bad and dangerous challenge then it should be punished, even if you did not make contact, the next time you might. IF ac had gotten him when his foot was hard in the ground that would leg could have been snapped in two.

I understand why people feel a need to defend their teams players, i often do it myself automatically, but people also have to recognise sometimes that wrong is wrong.

Dustaz

Originally posted by Dustaz
Terrible challenge, He deserved to go alright.

Im not defending the tackle at all. Just pointing out that I dont think he should be up for lifetime ban

cournioni

I think it should be a four and a half game ban.

The Muppet

oh hohoho rodney your sooooooooooo funny!!
like NOBODY said that to me before
aint that right muppet!

I,m Sorry Jank , If I'd known at the time I was scarring you for life I May Not have said it. The again I May.;)

Exactly, I would come down hard on Cole and Vieira, but it's not like you haven't called for blood when Keane made that challenge. And possibly the same for the Cantona incident. We are doing the exact same thing here. We are defending the players that play for the team we support. We are criticising the players that commit offences at other clubs. Its just natural.

Exactly, Its the nature of the soccer supporter, But I Honestly do think the gunners are under a lot more pressure this year after last years collapse and are in danger of derailing their Season.

Dustaz

Originally posted by The Muppet

Exactly, Its the nature of the soccer supporter, But I Honestly do think the gunners are under a lot more pressure this year after last years collapse and are in danger of derailing their Season.

are you SURE you dont work for Sky Sports ?:)

Youd make an excellent pundit

Thanx 4 The Fish

Agreed Dustaz, but I was not getting at or pointing fingers at anybody. Just saying that often people jump in blindly defending a player from the team that they support when in all honsty the action take was indefensible.

jank

Originally posted by The Muppet
I,m Sorry Jank , If I'd known at the time I was scarring you for life I May Not have said it. The again I May.;)

who says im scarred for life.??

so it has been revealed that poll saw gerards tackle and further discilpineary(sp?) action will not be by the fa because he saw it originally, so he bottled it big time!!

cole is being investigated by the fa for not leaving the pitch on time.

and yet nobody has yet mentioned howie amazing 50 yard run to sort things out his own way??!!