Community Spirit Thingamajig

yellum

Stemming from this:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130535

Where can a forum / subforum / thread / sticky be placed for people who are willing to download some files for boardsters and put it on cd/dvd for them ?

Same goes for those with DVD writers that are willing to create a few backup dvds for people.

zAbbo

Good Idea

Yavvy

I would be willing to do some downloading some stuff each month.. I could at least do 5 CDR's ..although if there was a large run rate I would expect people to send me their CDRs in and a stamped addressed envlope.

Frank Grimes

I'd second this idea.
As per my post on that thread, I'd say a forum for this would be the better option.
Stickys can be ignored/missed sometimes and as a result could generate random threads. Also the idea would be of a general interest i.e. *nix heads might want distro xy or z downloaded, Windows people might want service pack whatever.
People who would be interested in it, i.e. those on dial up probably wouldn't spend too much time in the broadband forum.
Also, if the idea takes off, one sticky in one forum would be near impossible to navigate/control.
Just my 2c.

davil

Sounds great. Can't wait. I only wish I could help but with a 56k connection and a 10x cd writer I'm about as much use as an underwater hairdryer.

eth0_

Wait....we're not allowed post url's for warez sites, or sell unlicenced software....yet y'all are setting up a community to distribute warez?

Jesus boards is so ****ing double standards.

seamus

Great idea.

I have been looking for something to do with my whopping big 100Mbit connection....

I also happen to have a nice library of all your handy apps at home (adaware, putty etc etc etc - hundreds of them ) which people are always looking for.

Wait....we're not allowed post url's for warez sites, or sell unlicenced software....yet y'all are setting up a community to distribute warez?

Jesus boards is so ****ing double standards.

We're talking about legitimate filesharing. Stuff that people on 56K might take days to download, such as Service Packs, distros.....

Warez would certainly not be tolerated....

Frank Grimes

Originally posted by eth0_
Wait....we're not allowed post url's for warez sites, or sell unlicenced software....yet y'all are setting up a community to distribute warez?

Jesus boards is so ****ing double standards.

Where did anyone say Warez?
If you read through that thread we've all said legal stuff.

davil

I agree with ya Frank on the whole making a forum out of it and not just a sticky.

WizZard

Well, that post generated a lot of interest!!!

I think a forum would be a good idea, maybe Requests.

Again if there was a lot of interest maybe a few peolpe living in the same area could bulk buy CDR's.
It'd end up saving boards.ie users a lot of money I'd imagine. And that can only be a good thing!!!

henbane

Originally posted by eth0_
Wait....we're not allowed post url's for warez sites, or sell unlicenced software....yet y'all are setting up a community to distribute warez?

Jesus boards is so ****ing double standards.

Legal downloads != warez. Warez the double standard?:D

I too volunteer my connection and burner for this should anyone need a hand. Work connection so able to do serious downloading off-peak about once a week.

rymus

If so required to... I'll third the idea.

Never let it be said that I'm not willing to help out the needy

WizZard

Warez would certainly not be tolerated....

I second this. Thats why I put "legal" into my first post.

There more than likely will be a fair amount of muppets asking for Office or suchlike, but I'm sure they can be dealt with the same way they are dealt with in the For Sale/wanted forums at the moment.

seamus

Originally posted by WizZard
There more than likely will be a fair amount of muppets asking for Office or suchlike, but I'm sure they can be dealt with the same way they are dealt with in the For Sale/wanted forums at the moment.

Charter - Anyone asking for full versions of copyrighted software, not available for free download from the publisher, are banned. Permanently.

Easy peasy

[EDIT: I would also say porn is fine, so long as the poster put "PORN:" at the beginning of the topic, and stated again and again that it's a porn download he wants. They also wouldn't be allowed put any links in the post. If someone has no problem then doing it, then let them PM the poster and do it.
Obviously this is a decision for the Admins, as it may be in contravention of what they want

Frank Grimes

Originally posted by WizZard
There more than likely will be a fair amount of muppets asking for Office or suchlike, but I'm sure they can be dealt with the same way they are dealt with in the For Sale/wanted forums at the moment.

Ah yeah, would go without saying there'd be some of that. A few mods would cut that out.

Dustaz

Best idea for a new forum in a LONG time.

Big thumbs up here.

Rabies

Originally posted by eth0_
Wait....we're not allowed post url's for warez sites, or sell unlicenced software....yet y'all are setting up a community to distribute warez?

Jesus boards is so ****ing double standards.

what about :
patches for games.
updates for progs
sdks
freeware
demos

none of that is warez
its got my vote

WizZard

Yeah, any of that stuff should be fine.

I agree with seamus, anything that is

available for free download from the publisher

should be ok!


I also like his attitude to porn! but again I'd imagine that would be the Admin's choice

yellum

There are more legal downloads on the web and p2p than are dreamt of in your philosophies, eth0_

With the increase in size of game demos, MS Patches and the like as well as the glut of non-MS Isos I think theres plenty to be downloaded.

Anything from ftp.esat.net for example.

Actually to make it even more interesting those that are requesting something should offer some service up to the community too.

So if I download a few ISOs for someone that boardster agrees to offer the services of his/her DVD burner to another boardster not just me.

yellum

Originally posted by seamus

I would also say porn is fine, so long as the poster put "PORN:" at the beginning of the topic

Well if this was allowed then I think the word ADULT should be used instead. Trouble is while pron is the most readily available and most popular content online, it too is copyrighted to someone, somewhere.

seamus

Originally posted by yellum
Well if this was allowed then I think the word ADULT should be used instead. Trouble is while pron is the most readily available and most popular content online, it too is copyrighted to someone, somewhere.

Indeed.
Maybe best to avoid that whole kettle of fish.
If people are PMing eachother the links then the content can't be monitored, and you're essentially creating an 'underground'.

yellum

So, I've decided to take my work back underground
To stop it falling into the wrong hands

/me plays Prodigy - Break and Enter

:ninja:

WizZard

Trouble is while pron is the most readily available and most popular content online, it too is copyrighted to someone, somewhere.

Excellent point and well made yellum.

Adult material should therefore probably be banned.

If people are PMing eachother the links then the content can't be monitored, and you're essentially creating an 'underground'.

Thats true seamus, but that may happen everyday for some users, so I don't think a new forum would increase this behaviour.

seamus

Originally posted by WizZard
Thats true seamus, but that may happen everyday for some users, so I don't think a new forum would increase this behaviour.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone asks for adult material, and the proceeds to convince whomever via PM to throw some warez in there. There'll always be a few willing participants to that kind of thing

Capt'n Midnight

WRT warez/adult/copyright etc. doesn't matter what stickies say - if it's illegal, it's illegal
and no amount of word twisting etc... "ignorance is no excuse in the eye of the law"
So you don't need to warn people before banning..

Then there is the second problem - viruses / trojans / borked downloads - since this would be done in the spirit of shareware/other free licenses where there is no charge or a nominal one to cover the media - ie. you are paying 50c or 80c or whatever for the blank CD and wear & tear on the drive and 0c for the act of copying.
So you would of course be entitled to your 0c back. (less admin charges )

BTW: am doing up a Knoppix CD with Irish settings and Utils (zipped swap files Loadlin.exe etc.) to boot into the 700MB Linux image on a microsoft drive from DOS

Frank Grimes

Originally posted by Capt'n Midnight
since this would be done in the spirit of shareware/other free licenses where there is no charge or a nominal one to cover the media - ie. you are paying 50c or 80c or whatever for the blank CD and wear & tear on the drive and 0c for the act of copying.

Goes without saying this idea is meant as a non-profit making thing, people refunding the sender the cost of the CD and/or postage (if they want it back) isn't unreasonable.

Yavvy

I think my idea of people sending the CD meida and the stamped addressed envlope to post it back to them would work nicley. and options for meet ups and collections would be easy to arrange too.

I agree this is the best idea for a fourm in some time and captures the spirit of online communities ..good ider yellum

maxheadroom

Agree with Alany, and am more than willing to contribute my broadband and CD burner to this

Atreides

I've both broadband and two DVD-Burners and would be willing to help.

vibe666

you could have a sticky at the top with all the warnings about bannings, and do some txt with a little 'zero tolerance' note stuck to the bottom like the supplied info thats added to the FS posts, that way nobody can claim ignorance.

maybe another sticky with those volunteering, and what services they are offering so posters have an idea of whats available and who to ask.

and two big thumbs up for the idea too. community spirit and all that.

Victor

The thing with the pr0n brings up Censor issues. Make sure every version of the CD is different and don't sell the CD, insist on their own CDs (gets as close as you can to not being a pr0n distributer / seller then).