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qw cheaters

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Suds


    tbh was gonna stay outa this one, but how about a comp to see how far the server can be fooled ? smile.gif

    Shinji vs Koopa round 1

    Koopa must program a checksum to stop hackers
    Shinji must program a hack which beats koopas unknown checksum...

    Go for it lads..

    This arguement has got to be better than QW anydays smile.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Koopa


    shinji it will be HARDER to simulate qizmo behaviour (because you dont have qizmo source code, and its packed) than it would be to simulate quake3.exe's behaviour .. that is all i was interested in, achieving the SAME level of hack-protection as they had before the source was released

    maybe you should actually have a look at qizmo before you go around making assumptions to its behaviour
    http://qizmo.sci.fi/

    download it, hack it, and then come to me
    (im not saying its unhackable, im just saying its a **** load harder to hack than qwcl.exe ever was, and even quake3.exe)

    if you get beyond the point where qizmo says winapi sucks, congratulations, you just made it past the first step.

    oh yes, so there chaos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Koopa


    there is another bit, if someone types "f_server" on the server, your qizmo has to reply with a series of letters, its some sort of checksum.. breaking that would need you to have disassembled qizmo fully in the first place
    example replies to f_server are:
    d83f39cf -> 09f1db3b
    where EVERYONE on that particular server should respond with the same output, so its fairly easy to see if someones using a hack (it was originally meant to be a form of proxy-aimbot detection)

    a lot more effort than hacking any of the quake/2/3 exe's no?

    "Mull that one over" - i think ive answered that question

    [This message has been edited by Koopa (edited 04-01-2000).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 Skulka


    Stumbled on this site: http://www.quakelives.cjb.net/

    "The basic principle of this is to allow online gaming of QuakeWorld players to continue in a structured and still fun manner that's currently impossible with the freely distributed release of the quake source code."

    Worth a look?




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    Koopa m8, you wouldn't need to touch the Qizmo source code, or unpack it or anything. All you need to know is what responses it sends to the server... Or how to confuse its checksum, not a difficult thing at all. After all, how often does it check qwcl.exe for being ok? Once only at startup, I'll wager. So how difficult to write a program that replaces a chunk of the EXE halfway through? Not difficult at all, if you know what you're doing...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    I don't play QW....so its funny....the care can't been seen on my face...simply coz its not there...not there...i said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭DEATH


    ooooh new proxy an server to stop ye cheatin scum.

    http://www.quakelives.com/html/news/news.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Slosh


    DEF U ARE THE MONEY!!!!!! Expect all servers to be upgraded b4 the end of the month...

    Slosh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Havok.old


    OK. Lets finally put something to rest. Half-Life (is NOT Poxy buddy) started out as Quake 1 engine project (i.e. HL was started well before Q2 was finished). However, Valve decided that they would be better off using some of the Quake 2 engine stuff as well. Half-Life is a mixture of the Quake and Quake 2 engines. IT USES BOTH ENGINES! IT IS NEITHER THE QUAKE OR THE QUAKE 2 ENGINE ON ITS OWN.
    CAPICE! Anyone who wants to argue with that is asking me to get my 'Shinebox' out... not to mention several magazine articles from PCGamer and PCFormat. So don't F**K with me.
    I know my stuff.

    [This message has been edited by Havok (edited 06-01-2000).]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    haha i'm bitter ?
    no i was just pointing out your airheaded ways, which is fact, not opinion.
    ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    haha i'm bitter ?
    no i was just pointing out your airheaded ways, which is fact, not opinion.
    ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    haha i'm bitter ?
    no i was just pointing out your airheaded ways, which is fact, not opinion.
    ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    haha i'm bitter ?
    no i was just pointing out your airheaded ways, which is fact, not opinion.
    ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭DEATH


    Faegrie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    get the message? smile.gif
    that shouldnt have happened, not chaos will think hes mad cool cos he started a mad long thread :/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Chaos


    Fs howd u know sad.gif

    www.gibworld.com/chaos
    Ps 0wns U



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    was that 'fagry' or 'faggotry' death ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭DEATH


    neither it was Faegrie.

    You Faegrie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    g3y


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Asuka


    lol death

    and hk thanx for proving whos the airhead smile.gif
    ive seen messgaes posted twice, ive even seen a topic posted twice, but ive *never* seen someone manage to post a message four times by accident smile.gif

    Asuka


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    asuka i think by saying that it proves your the airhead !!! with your head up in the clouds we dont all have nice fast connections like you (fast being modem).
    llama


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Asuka


    Ahh HK, mine is the slowest connection in the galaxy smile.gif
    But still i only feel the need to press the button once smile.gif

    How do you connect so if not through a modem?
    Do you dial the isp on your phone and make funny beeping noises at it?
    Thats kinda awkward, isnt it? smile.gif

    You muppet

    Asuka


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    ehh muppet ?
    usually when netscape is on 20bytes per second for a while and then says [stalled], i USUALLY try again.And when netscape freezes and nothin will work cos the proxy im connected thru, along with the stupid firewall is being stupid, i tend to press things that extra time to get things running smoothly.
    llama
    YOU ME DUEL1 NOW, ohh wait im behind a firewall and id get a 2000 ping anyway!
    ubber muppet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    ps. gooooooo john smile.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Asuka


    Ahhh quit i couldnt be bothered arguing anymore smile.gif

    Anyway, even if you did have a 2000 ping youd still beat me smile.gif

    Im BRUTAL smile.gif

    Asuka


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Chaos


    getting even bigger now, work it! smile.gif

    www.gibworld.com/chaos
    Ps 0wns U



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    shaddap ye g00n smile.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Chaos


    you still in boston?
    if so when u back?
    sunglasses.gif

    www.gibworld.com/chaos
    Ps 0wns U



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭DEATH


    Chaos your attempt at a long thread wont work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭DEATH


    oh no it will not work i tell ye!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Chaos


    oh yes it will....

    www.gibworld.com/chaos
    Ps 0wns U



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭H_K


    or will it ?:/
    seriouslt tho cheatings bad !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭Monty - the one and only


    Do you ever have the feeling that this topic has died and become something completely different?

    "Respect my Authoratai"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭Monty - the one and only


    do you ever have the feeling that a topic has died and become something completely diferent???

    "Respect my Authoratai"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭Vincent


    The End


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Asuka


    Vincent - I am totally in agreement smile.gif

    Its time for this topic to be closed
    If ppl have still stuff to say, post a new topic called 'qw cheaters (continued)'

    It makes sense (not like some of the posts smile.gif)

    Asuka


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