Baz_

Zero

Baz_ ,

despite the tripe the others were speaking, it's quit possible u need special RAM. It's a scam gateway have with some of the older machines. A mate of mine has a Gateway, around 2-3yrs old, and the SDRAM it takes is some dodgy SDRAM, a special amount of pins on it. The only place he could get the ram for it was thru gateway, at their little "special" price.
My advise is if ure upgrading at all, by an ABIT board and a Celery processor with 64meg standard ram. you're way better off.

WhiteWashMan

i was looking at prices in the uk auctions for systems and sstem boards/cpu's etc and they are very cheap for mid range stuff.
only problem is that the punt is sooo crappy at the moment that its not worth going english over.
surely its about time someone set up an irish auction site..or have they already?

amp

Yeah, or an Irish equivilant to Scan. C'mon, we're the 2nd biggest producers of s/w in the freaking WORLD!

Oh and Eamo, do you have any special powers now that you're a commander?

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Baz_

Well thanks for the new info but I opened the little baby up one day and well what I found was a 32meg stick of sdram which fit quite nicely into my DIMM slot, however I'm sure that it had 168 pins on it I'll check it again of course but I'm pretty sure it was cosure.

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bye for now
Baz

Jaden

Zero you muppet. As I stated, his PC requires no special RAM, it's just bog standard SDRAM. I am sure of this, as I OWN a Gateway P233. I have used off the shelf SDRAM in it, and seen no problems.

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Hail To The King, Baby.

Jaden.

Zero

Hail to the spa, you mean.
If you want to email Krusty and ask him, he has an older Gateway and it has a weird fukked up number of pins on the RAM, he tried Bog SDRAM in it and no luck. Just coz you got rid of your redneck haircut now J, don't be thinking it's improved your brain access time


Zero.

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Hail to the MacGyver-haircut, Baby.

Jaden

You just know there is something wrong when a smelly nit-infested scobe thinks he actually knows his **** from his elbow. While older Gateway PCs have a different flavour of RAM, specific to Gateway machines, this is NOT the case with P233s. I have owned one, and used another at work (One Tower, and one Desktop). BOTH take standard SDRAM.

You don't know ****e about PCs, cos the only experience you have with other people machines, is nicking bits of them in the middle of the night, like all good Scobes do.

May I suggest that you grow your hair long to act as insulation, because it is obvious that your brain is freezing in these cold conditions.

Byte me.

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Hail To The King, Baby.

Jaden.

Zero

1. I'm not a scobe.
2. You might be right in this case, but not all gateways of XXXMHz are exactly the same, and I fukkin KNOW that.
3. I don't need a Twin-Town haircut and a poxy 24hr mingin redneck Coors cap to feel "with it", or maybe thats just the personal preference. I'll stick with the short hair, thanks.
4. You're crap.
5. So is your ma.
6. I'm gettin bored.
7. I think I'll get back to work, which unfortunately unlike yours does not involve the strenuous task of sitting on IRC in #redneck all day hoping for a bumchum to join.
8. Calm, I'm only havin a go at you. (Token nerd smiley which apparently makes everything all rosy and superfunhappy again ---> )

Z.

WhiteWashMan

yeah jaden.
you ought to check out www.mulletsgalore.com and find your picture there

oh and amp, yes i do.
al i'll say is that at 10:45 am you should not have been doing that to a teddy bear.

Jaden

Bleedin bog stompin', shopping trolly nickin', granny muggin', turd sniffin' SCOBE.

Yer ma's ma's mazda.

P.S. I Love you, as much as any man dares.

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Hail To The King, Baby.

Jaden.

madyoke

thats some fukking excellent abuse

keep it rolling

_CreeD_

Eh...folks.....Love the fairy tales, we should have a board just for em.

From their Pentium Range onwards Gateway(EMEA) have only strayed once from standard Intel boards (And thus standard Mem slots : 72Pin NP-70ns-FPM/60ns-EDO simms, 66mhz/100mhz 168 Pin SDRAM etc.) - that was for their 233 motherboards. The lawman and Gman.
If you got generic 66Mhz Ram working you were lucky. Not because of any proprietary pin configs but just because there was no reliable and adhered to PC-66 standard (Intel's was too late.....).
Hell, the first generation Gman boards couldn't actually use a 2nd DIMM at all, they had to be re-worked back at production.

Different Pinouts...Now thats funny.
They also use a special type of electricity too......Has to use electron clouds in trademarked cow spot configs.

ZERO - If your mate was told it had a special pinout config then their phone Tech's have gotten even worse. He was, in the vernacular, "Shmoo'd".....

Baz_

Well I'm not sure if it's important but I think I left it out. My 233 cpu is a PII.
Does that matter?????

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bye for now
Baz

amp

*******! you promised never to reveal my sekrit ted fetish.

Well Bonzo, looks like we're out of the closet!!!

(anyone know where I can get a JarJar rubber doll?)

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_CreeD_

Eh....Yeah it does make a difference.
60Ns 72 pin EDO simms, generic will do the trick. You should have no compatibility probs. Buy in pairs......
Forgot about 233 Pii's....Ooops....

Sonic

WAN Z!!!!!

ya , i did a little bit of research and back when gateway used "kingston" ram , they used both simms and dimms with irregular pins , to do with parity and non-parity ram , so ghey , so gateway , on these u have no option but to get the ram from gateway or a supplier who deals in these oddities , but when they changed to "crucial" ram which is standard there is no problem.

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Zero

Lad Sonic, knew I didn't dream that.

Zero.

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_CreeD_

Lads. I worked in their tech support for 3 years. Ended up in the Tech Support Lab testing new products and eventually trying to source compatible DIMMS when the PC66 nightmare hit.

Their ram is standard.

72 Pin non parity. EDO 60ns, or 70ns FPM for older Simm boards. Relatively easy to find (just look on Dabs.Com if you're stuck)

Or

168 Pin PC66 (dodgy) or PC100 Gold PLated DIMMS. Depending on your chipset.



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Sonic

the d00d at gateway that rang me said what i put in the message above.

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_CreeD_

OKay, this is getting silly, and apologies if I came off as insulting/holier than thou.
I wasn't in production/parts sourcing so I couldnt tell you "who" we got the ram off back then, but what I said about compatibility stands.

They haven't dealt with Simms in ages and there are all of about 5 people left in the dept. who were around when the Portland systems were shipped.
What the Tech gave you was nost likely 3rd/4th/nth hand info. Treat it with a big grain of salt.

Trust me, it's fine.

I'm surprised this thread hasnt been strangled for non-quakiness yet.....

gandalf

Jaden

U stupid sheep shagging mulla (I just had to get in on this slagging bit ). That Zero lad is right I used to work for Gateway and not all there systems used standard SDRAM especially the late Pentium MMX's and early PII's. I know of one distributor that does Gateway memory and as long as you have the Gateway part number they can match it up (it begins MEMDIM***AAWW or something like that).
In fact Gateway are known for using whats available ie the same model PC could use 3 or 4 different models of motherboards , memory types, hdds etc.

Hope that clears things up.

Gandalf.

Baz_

yeah and who did post a nonquake post in the quake area anyway.
DOH!!!!! it was me but it was before i realised the splendifourousness of the tech section so i do apologise and thank you all for your wonderful and considered help. I will enjoy telling the next person to tell me the BS to Foff cos hes talking BS.

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bye for now
Baz

gandalf

Creed,

Just read your post and I'm afraid you are wrong. The early Gateway SDRAM systems used what is called non-jedac complaint memory which is in severe short supply at the moment (btw some of the early Dell's used these as well but at least Dell change their model number when they change the systemboard). I worked in Gateway sales for 2.5 Years around the time these systems came out. I now work in corporate account management and had to regularly do memory upgrade rollouts over the last year (thank you Mr.Y2K) and the biggest b!tches of systems to get the correct memory upgrades for were Gateways and most especially the early PII's/Late Pentium MMX's. The only way our memory distributors could supply us memory for them was to get the Gateway Part Number from the memory module itself, which is a major pain in the tits when your talking about a large quantity of systems.

Hope that clarifies thinks,

Gandalf (its amazing what crap you'll write with the flu )

_CreeD_

Gandalf, that's what I said in my first post.
The 'late' MMX boards (Gman/Lawman-Tx chipset) used 66Mhz Sdram, of which there was no decent standard at the time. A LOT of manufacturers ran into the same issues.
The first P-II board (Portland-440fx) used 60 ns np EDO SIMMS, this covered Klamath 233's and 266 CPU's. No compatibility problems - and since this would seem to be what BAZ has he should be fine.
The 2nd P-II board, Astoria-LX used 66Mhz Sdram and the Deschutes cpu (266+), same problem as the TX boards.

The astoria is an OEM intel board, the first LX, so any OEM using it had the same problems.

Jaden

(satisfied sigh) : "aaaaah........"

Dearest Zero-poos,

I am deeply disturbed by the fact that you appear to be tossing off while thinking of me. Please don't do this, and, if you absolutely must, don't post about it on public forums. If you do, I'll be forced to tell eyeryone that your're a good friend of Gary Glitter, and in your spare time, use office bandwidth to peddle your sick piccy collection on Efnet, where you are channel founder of #DonkeyBondage. If I do tell everyone, you will doubtless be bombarded by Hobbes and Gandalf via E-mail, with credit card details. WWM and Sonic won't send you details, because Eamo has all the Donkey porn he'll ever need, and Sonic is too poor. Instead, he simply downloads the contents of alt.nude.scobe every evening. (I hear a certain channel founder on Efnet spams that newsgroup with his own "work"). *Shudder*.

Anyway, I, as you know, had my haircut well over a year ago, so that one's getting a bit old. On the other hand, you were still in college a year ago, when I started calling you a smelly student scobe. I have, since you got a job, had the good manners to amend my references of you to just plain old smelly scobe.

PS. I still know more about P233s then you ever will.

PPS Yer ma.

PPPS I love you.

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Hail To The King, Baby.

Jaden.

Zero

hahaha take it Jaden you fukkin MULLET-head.

Jaden : "Oooh I know everything about everything!"

Not barbers obviously.

(satisfied sigh) : "aaaaah........"

Zero

ahem


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El_Presidente

Note the

Sorry Zero, the arguement stops here because of the

WhiteWashMan

im always on the lookout for more donkey related pictures

Zero

yes li-sa, daddy's a tee-chur