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Van wont start

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  • 29-12-2003 2:19am
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    ando
    Registered Users Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭


    I had to get the AA out couple days ago to get the van started so I could get the car out the driveway as the van was blocking it. He said there was something wrong with the glowplug system. He said the glowplugs themselves are ok , but there is no power getting to them when I turn on the ignition ???

    Anyway, tommorow is going to be the first change for me to get the thing fixed, but i Know its going to be a biatch to try get her started in the morning. Can anyone suggest anything that I could do to get the van started without any glow plugs???

    Ta


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    Redshift
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    Get a tow up to about 15 mph put it in third and pop the clutch it should fire from the heat built up from the compression. It will probably make lots of smoke when it does fire though.


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    an_taoiseach
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    If you are going to tow start it just be aware that due to the high compression ratio in most diesels you may damage the clutch and / or gearbox and / or engine mountings 8-(

    ( Years ago I had a diesel Golf which some grease monkey decided to tow start - I had to get the clutch replaced when he had finished )


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    mike65
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    I'll echo what what said above....just remmeber not to let the clutch out at more than about 15 mph as Redshift said but use second gear and rev the sod as soon as it gets going!


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    ando
    Registered Users Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭ando


    Originally posted by Redshift
    Get a tow up to about 15 mph put it in third and pop the clutch it should fire from the heat built up from the compression

    I dunno what you mean by 'pop the clutch'. Do you mean put the van in third, depress and take my foot off the clutch, and then try starting while being towed. I've never done this before


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    mike65
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    Never done a tow-start??? Ando you have'nt lived! :)

    Heres the idiots guide (!) -

    1 Turn ignition key to start postition
    2 Put gear box into 2nd or 3rd (I say 2nd)
    3 Keep foot on clutch so you freewheel as you are towed
    then at about 15 mph let the clutch out and with any luck compression will start the engine.

    If it starts, knock the gearstick into neutral and left foot brake whilst revving with the right, whoever is towing you needs to know that the engine has started so flash the lights and he can then slow down slowly...!

    Mike.


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    the evil belly
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    or just get a few friends to push said vehicle up to speed. not all that difficult with 2 or 3 lads. promise em beer and i'd say u'll have little trouble convincing people. also eliminates the need for a second car and the chance of rear ending it


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    BabyEater
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    You shouldn't need another vehicle to jump start just get 2 mates if you are near a hill its even easier . I think its safer than yousing a second vehicel.


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    Redshift
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    Originally posted by BabyEater
    You shouldn't need another vehicle to jump start just get 2 mates if you are near a hill its even easier . I think its safer than yousing a second vehicel.

    The problem there is that if the engine is cold it will take a bit of turning over at a sustained speed to generate enough heat in the cylinders to fire the engine hence the tow start. You need to keep the engine turning over fast and I don't think a couple of blokes pushing it would do it because as soon as the clutch is released the van will quickly stop wheras can towing vehicle can pull against the compression and keep her turning. I think you are thinking along the lines of push starting a petrol engine which is far easier.


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