2004, and people are smoking in my local ?

Paddy20

Yeah, its January 1st, 2004.

People are smoking like mad in my local, and the best of luck to them. Whatever happened to the strict enforcement of the 'Smoking Ban' ?... MoaaaawHaaaHaaaHaa..:)

P.:ninja: :dunno:

phaxx

Eh? Delayed until february or something, I thought?

Exit

Yeah, it hasn't been implemented yet.

Giblet

April 1st. /

Paddy20

"Delayed" "Hasn't been implemented yet" ,Eh!, Are those the Minister of Healths new way of admitting defeat already ?..

Bit of a climb down. Huh!.:dunno:

P.;) :ninja:

Makaveli

Paddy!>!>"20?!_ You?"" are(!) such.... an idiot!?!?!.... - ?

Agent Smith

i'm smoking right now!

DMT

Someone's not the sharpest tool in the box....

Paddy20

DMT,

Yes, Micheal Martin & Bertie Ahern. Oh, the irony!. I think the E.U. is magic.

Hmmm, why do I not feel sorry for all those anti - smoking fanatics who swore blind that the new smoking ban would be introduced on 1st January 2004.

Yes, true democracy, has some real benefits for the little man.

P.:) :ninja:

AdMMM

Well way back in Summer they said it wasn't going to be implemented until April!

DMT

Just because you believe something will happen doesn't mean that it actually will.
At no point was the ban supposed to come in on January 1st. Where did you get this delusion? Earliest I heard for it was January 26th.

James R

Yeah Jan 26th was the earliest and good enough too. Sick of ignorant people blowing smoke into my face.

po0k

I'm kinda unhappy that it isn't being brought in earlier.

I smoke, and over the last 4-6months have been smoking pretty regularly.
I am cutting back heavily, and it would be nice to be able to go for a pint (the main time/place I chain smoke) without being able to light one up, or have to be in a smokey atmosphere.

We'll see how things go

Will be funny to see crowds piling out of pubs every 20minutes lighting up.
You'll see a hell of a lot more beer gardens and marquis being setup.

Paddy20

DMT,

There are only about 1000 News Stories links about the introduction of a ban on smoking in the workplace in Ireland from "1st January 2004 " online if you would bother to do a Google search!.

Then again one of the years top ten threads on the Smoking Ban was, and I suppose still is on the boards.ie 'Politics' forum, if you care to have a look at that.

You, like so many others, have a very short memory for the truth, when it suits you.

Or, click on this link: http://www.irishheart.ie/news/smokingban.htm
for the unprejudiced truth.

P.;) :ninja:

sceptre

Originally posted by Paddy20
"Delayed" "Hasn't been implemented yet" ,Eh!, Are those the Minister of Healths new way of admitting defeat already ?..

Bit of a climb down. Huh!.:dunno:

See this is what you get when you don't read newspapers. It's been delayed and there are quite a few stories in the better newspapers (ie the ones without boobies) telling us why. Everyone else knew about this about two or three months ago. There were even posts about it here.

zAbbo

From what ive read its delayed till feb/march, with specifics like the Gardai`s role in the implementation of the ban.

Another 3 months with headaches and watery eyes

krinpit

Paddy20 - Get Real! What's your point? You just government bashing? It was all over the news that the ban was to postponed until all the legal aspects were covered and that they couldn't be legally challanged in any way as a result of its implementation.

See this story from the 22 October:
http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2003/10/22/story118349.asp

and this one from 26 November:
http://breaking.tcm.ie/2003/11/26/story123089.html

Crimson

well i dont realy care about the smokeing ban... but i have more consern for the gum ban that they want to put into Ireland :O :P

Paddy20

krinpit,

The truth is, I am worried about how long we have before we need a license to fart, and will it be banned in public places & places of work, as it really is a stinker!, not mine of course.

How long before the fanatical anti- farting campaigners start up ?..

P.:ninja: :dunno:

ixoy

Farting - doesn't harm the people around you.
Smoking - harms the people around you WITHOUT THEM HAVING A CHOICE.

That's why there's a smoking ban in effect and why all that crap spouted by smokers - "What will they ban next! Air!" - is precisely that: crap. Some still don't seem to get it yet though....

Agent Smith

smoking is a part of irish pub life.

my plan is to have a realy long tube and have my smoke outside, with a second tude to breath out the smoke,



it's foolproof

DMT

Originally posted by Paddy20
DMT,
There are only about 1000 News Stories links about the introduction of a ban on smoking in the workplace in Ireland from "1st January 2004 " online if you would bother to do a Google search!.

And all of them date back to almost a year ago. It been said repeatedly over last few months that it wouldn't be introduced on January 1st, so your question "Whatever happened to the strict enforcement of the 'Smoking Ban' ?" just makes you look like an ignorant gobshite who have been listening to the news for the past eight months. If you don't want to sound like an idiot, try to stay topical...

echomadman

good discussion on this topic over on metafilter,
Americans involved too so theres some opinions from places withthe ban already in place.
I especially liked this rant

It's only the first day of the new year and I've already exhausted my quota of patience for dealing with anal-retentive anti-smoking nazis. It's a trendy issue and there is no point in trying to work out a reasonable compromise because they want neither "compromise" nor do they want to be "reasonable". First, smoking is banned from most public buildings, and smokers abide by this in the name of civility and getting along in society. Then the AR's immediately bitch about smokers congregated outside (Duh!!!).
These people personify Menken's definition of Puritanism by their irrational fear they someone somewhere is having fun. I don't trust the government to install parking meters rightside-up -- I don't want them playing political games with the local economy and I certainly don't want them to be my nanny. Free market forces can (and should) handle this imagined problem quite handily. Support and patronize existing non-smoking bars. Show the smoking bars that there's a sizeable market, if indeed there is. Most of all, stop wrapping your AR jihad in the mantel of caring about the employees. That's simple BS you're resorting to in lieu of substantive arguments. It's a cheap rhetorical tactic to make shrill fun-suckers sound noble and caring. But we all know, if employees were taken out of the equation, these self-deluded zealots would merely glom onto another specious rationalization to justify their obsession to thrust their nose into other people's life styles.
posted by RavinDave at 8:57 AM PST on January 1

Mossy Monk

who the **** would leave a pub within 1/2 an hour of New Years, arrive home, turn on a PC and post on boards about a smoking ban which everyone knew was put back

DMT

Originally posted by Mossy Monk
who the **** would leave a pub within 1/2 an hour of New Years, arrive home, turn on a PC and post on boards about a smoking ban which everyone knew was put back

Only a complete idiot.

[EDIT] Just noticed you're making a reference to paddy20, heheh [/EDIT]

Exit

Unless he was sitting in the pub with a laptop. Which may be worse.

The Beer Baron

I just hope the government handles the implementation of the smoking ban the same way €ircom handled the rollout of DSL.

krinpit

I'm a non-smoker, and I don't feel too strongly about the issue, but I do think it is a positive move - for a number of reasons

1. Lots of people give up fags many times, but find that when they are in a pub, with a drink, they don't feel right until they light up. Perhaps the ban will me more conducive to their efforts in moving away from that scenario.

2. I often go into a pub to watch a match with just 1 or 2 pints, and I swear, the smell of my, otherwise, clean clothes afterwards is pretty wretched.

3. It's an interesting social experiment (as a semi-neutral at least). I can't wait until the ban comes into affect, because I think it's gonna be one big game, having a cigarette in a pub and avoiding the smoking police. It'll be like getting away with underage drinking all over again.

Of course, there's many negative points as well, most of which have already been bandied about, but I don't agree that it will affect businesses adversely. I would think that you will find a slight shift in the type of people who visit a pub, but I don't think that the numbers out on a Saturday night will decline. (after much scientific study by myself of course )

Does this make me an "anti-smoking Nazi"?

Crimson

Originally posted by ixoy
Farting - doesn't harm the people around you.

if every one in the world farted at the same time the world as we know it would blow up

tba

Originally posted by Crimson
if every one in the world farted at the same time the world as we know it would blow up

that would be so cool,..... devastating but cool none the less

Ronaldo7

comment withdrawn. didnt read everything properly.

richindub2

Did you honestly expect people to put out their cigs on the dot of 12:01 paddy20? not to mention the not paying attention to news thing, christ youre getting more senile by the day

Paddy20

This just gets better and better, and I am loving every Anti- Paddy20 post. The Craic is mighty, sheer magic.

As for smoking, well as an ex-smoker!. I stopped in November 1999. I really enjoy standing up for smokers rights. If its legal to buy them, then logically it should be legal to smoke them. Particularly, in a Pub that sells them ?..

Like it or lump it. Thats my opinion and I am sticking to it.

P.:D :ninja:

oeNeo

Okay, fair enough, but that isn't what this thread is about.

Yeah, its January 1st, 2004.

People are smoking like mad in my local, and the best of luck to them. Whatever happened to the strict enforcement of the 'Smoking Ban' ?... MoaaaawHaaaHaaaHaa..

You're such a retard.

bugler

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
Paddy20 your such a clown! You braindead clown!

ZING!

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by Paddy20
If its legal to buy them, then logically it should be legal to smoke them. Particularly, in a Pub that sells them ?..

Like it or lump it. Thats my opinion and I am sticking to it.

You're perfectly right... :rolleyes:

And by that logic, I'm going to go into town tomorrow, buy a big bottle of gin, and sit in the middle of the shop drinking it.
Might get a few beers aswell for the trip home.

Sure, if its legal to buy drink, then logically it should be legal for me to drink it.
Particularly in a shop that sells it.

James R

Exactly Angelwhore.

The whole point of the ban is so non-smokers can breathe basically. I have no problem with people who smoke, thats their choice and fair enough if they choose to. But why should I have to breathe in that ****e too? and have a smell of my clothes etc?!

Its bad enough when you're out for a pint but sitting in a restaurant trying to have a meal and being bombarded with smoke is sickening

Paddy20

AngelWhore,

Absolutely.

P.:D :ninja:

Faust

Originally posted by AngelWhore
You're perfectly right... :rolleyes:

And by that logic, I'm going to go into town tomorrow, buy a big bottle of gin, and sit in the middle of the shop drinking it.
Might get a few beers aswell for the trip home.

Sure, if its legal to buy drink, then logically it should be legal for me to drink it.
Particularly in a shop that sells it.

By your logic i could say that its legal to buy a gun in a gunshop and shoot everyone in it....

krinpit

Originally posted by Faust
By your logic i could say that its legal to buy a gun in a gunshop and shoot everyone in it....

from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony

i·ro·ny ( P )
n. pl. i·ro·nies

1.
a. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
b. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
c. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.

AngelofFire

Originally posted by Paddy20
Yeah, its January 1st, 2004.

People are smoking like mad in my local, and the best of luck to them. Whatever happened to the strict enforcement of the 'Smoking Ban' ?... MoaaaawHaaaHaaaHaa..:)

P.:ninja: :dunno:

oh yes i love it the poisonous smoke fills my lungs, such an envigorating experience. i love this lung cancer my doc gives me chemotherapy and my hair falls out how arrousing:rolleyes:

Faust

Originally posted by krinpit
from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony

i·ro·ny ( P )
n. pl. i·ro·nies

1.
a. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
b. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
c. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.

joke ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jk)
n.
Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
A mischievous trick; a prank.
An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
Informal.
Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock: His loud tie was the joke of the office.

Karl Hungus

For this thread in general, but mostly for Paddy 20:

Jim

best thread ive read in a long time.

Paddy20

AngelWhore,

Luverly jubberly. I LOVE that card. Did I tell you that I am a fully addicted masochist.:D More..more, please.

P.:ninja:

L4

Originally posted by Paddy20
Yeah, its January 1st, 2004.

People are smoking like mad in my local, and the best of luck to them. Whatever happened to the strict enforcement of the 'Smoking Ban' ?... MoaaaawHaaaHaaaHaa..:)

P.:ninja: :dunno:

I don't care if someone corrected you on this one, but are you serious!??
When did the Government ever say they are going to ban smoking in Pubs on Jan 1st? If that were the case barstaff would leave their posts @00.01 01st of Jan inthe pubs and go around asking people to extinguish their ciggerettes. Think before you type the next time please..:rolleyes:

L4

And by the way brains, I smoke, most of my friends smoke and some of my co-workers too, and none of them think this ban is a bad idea. You obviously haven't been going to pubs for long have you!? It may be awkward for those to go outside and have a smoke, but it's their own choice. I for one would feel alot better the next morning when I don't have to clear my troath every 2 minutes. And maybe it'll help people quit, many times I have quit only to be tempted the most when I'm in a smokey pub and everyone else is smoking. Think man, think.

Gordon

Originally posted by L4
You obviously haven't been going to pubs for long have you!?

Actually I think Paddy has been going to pubs longer than all of us put together.

L4

Originally posted by Gordon
Actually I think Paddy has been going to pubs longer than all of us put together.

Maybe that's the problem, too much lager has destroyed his brain.

Paddy20

L4,

Click on this link: http://www.irishheart.ie/news/smokingban.htm
then have another fag, and the same applies to you 'DMT' for accusing me of being delusional about the date, .

P.:ninja:

L4

Originally posted by Paddy20
L4,

Click on this link: http://www.irishheart.ie/news/smokingban.htm
then have another fag, and the same applies to you 'DMT' for accusing me of being delusional about the date, .

P.:ninja:

Oh my God! Thanks man, Jees, I'll never touch a smoke again! :rolleyes:
Up until now I though smoking was good for my health, and that it
helped me breath easier... madness.