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Enterprise Season 3, Episode 1: The Xindi

  • 05-01-2004 10:56pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭


    1.WTF IS WITH THE SONG! GOOD GOD ITS AWFUL i though i was watching neigbours or something :rolleyes:
    (Star trek enterprise though that came in halfway though the seasion not right at the start....guess they changed it for the uk/ireland/eu release)

    2.Nice special effects for the council
    (really nice special effects for the cargo bay cargo flying around)
    (yet more nice special effects for the mine)
    (once again some fine special effects for trips flash back)

    3.new command center looks bitching

    4.hey its the first officer guy from Babylon 5 crusade ! in the militry team cool

    5.the vulcans cat suite sure is tighter :p 2 different colors in 20 mins er that a new record ever for star trek new uniform every 2nd seasion

    6.Platinum ! .....surely they meant latinum

    7.I like the new trip bout time the whole crew wasnt made up of wimpy

    8.Archer taken prisioner again .....wtf the point of haveing the militry if you dont bring them with you

    9.Oh the militry is good cool sniper rifle(they used tatics! my god) now we know why starfleet cant win a ground battle their not trained for it lol

    10.and so the shameless porn begians.......nice brests though :p and it was a bit funny (trip is a good actor) (though tbh im not happy with this type of crap on star trek if i wanted to watch porn ill watch "when sex goes wrong" or something equaly crap on skyone :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:)

    11.i wonder who or what could or would destroy the xzindi (sp) planet 120 years before hand

    That was a good ep one of the better Enterprise in the last 2 years this seasion migten be to bad after all.....Ill be watching next week :)

    id give it a 7 out of 10


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    T'was good!!

    Those commandos make it alot better. Nice head shot with the sniper rifle. I think Enterprise is very good. Alot better then Voyager was at the same stage.

    Thank god there are no Holodecks. I hate those stupid "I fell in love with a character from a holo-novel" episodes.

    But the biggest improvement has to be seeing Tupaul (sp?) breasts. Star Trek has always been too morale for my liking. Bring back the seedy days of Kirk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Alot better then Voyager was at the same stage.

    ya voyager was **** at the start.....got better when the borg was brought in
    Thank god there are no Holodecks. I hate those stupid "I fell in love with a character from a holo-novel" episodes.

    lol so true
    But the biggest improvement has to be seeing Tupaul (sp?) breasts

    dont agree with you their.......a half naked (pritty ugly) women doesnt improve a tv show....much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    i was just thinking it must of been plesent for archer and co to be wadeing through a few miles of alien **** and piss :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Originally posted by bizmark
    i was just thinking it must of been plesent for archer and co to be wadeing through a few miles of alien **** and piss :D

    Thats what i call a sticky situation!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    poor trip was really up to his neck in sh*t lol :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    :p datas been editing i see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    howdy first up i changed the title sorry bizmark i want to keep track of each episode as this is the first season of star trek airing in full since this forum was created whoo hoo :)

    ok i enjoyed it, the song was interesting (have to get used to that episode now) though the neighbours comment is funny when i read it and i'm glad they switched to star trek enterprise straight away it feels right, does anyone recall is sky switched the scene before each ad break to star trek enterprise or was it just enterprise (i think it was the latter?)

    i missed a couple of seconds at the start with the council (god damn tea making) but they looked good alright also the cargo bay thing was cool also i thought it was generous budget wise to show the stuff going back across the room again when there was no real need.

    the military team was cool (what are they called maco's or something?) there leader is the new first officer of the enterprise E from the cut scene from nemesis, is he the babylon five guy?

    i liked t'pol's new outfits she looked good with the new haircut as well, its amazing what a few weeks in the expanse can do for ya. nitpicking the scene in her dressing gown i think you can see the take changes or what ever they are called as at some stages you can she her pyjamas and others you can't.

    the shameless porn ah well i'm not complaing pity we didn't get anything of jeri ryan like that perhaps its because she's going out with braga and he would have none of it?

    with regards to the actual episode i thought more would take place in it, a bit more confrontation with the xindi or something. i know they're doing a story arc and stuff but still. also for some reason the amount of CGI these days is bothering me a bit.

    anywho good episode and a good enough start to the season which they can build on.

    data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    does anyone recall is sky switched the scene before each ad break to star trek enterprise or was it just enterprise (i think it was the latter?)

    i think they have it as star trek enterpise on the breaks as well

    is the new first officer of the enterprise E from the cut scene from nemesis, is he the babylon five guy

    no the bab 5 guy is the Asian man in the team
    (what are they called maco's or something?)

    dont remember :(
    for some reason the amount of CGI these days is bothering me a bit.

    Why ? the tv show looks far beter with them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    i don't mind the CGI when its not too noticable and over the top. ah i dug out the military guys

    Military Assault Command Operation soldiers (MACOs)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Originally posted by Dataisgod
    also for some reason the amount of CGI these days is bothering me a bit.

    I thought the Enterprise doing the L4 looked great. Also atleast the klingons look like klingons. Remember the original star trek series.

    I remember a DS9 episode where the crew travel back in time and O'Brien asks worf wats the story with it. I'd love to know wat the writers could come up with to cover that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    i don't mind the CGI when its not too noticable and over the top.

    Enterprises Cgi looks fair better and more real that Tng-voyagers models/cgi and in my own humble view Enterprises cgi is far better than the star warks movies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Those MACOs are great!!

    They were decent at hand to hand combat. They really looked like a military unit rather then the usual star trek combat.

    Only thing i had a problem about was why did their camoflage fatigues look more like they were doing painting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    why is it called an L4 anyone?

    yeah that was trials and tribbulations that episode i think it marked star trek's 30th anniversary and they made flashback for voyager. can't remember what season its was it may have been 5 and 3 respectively.

    yeah the enterprise itself looks good, but just looking at the title credits, the other stuff doesn't look great and then its switches to the phoenix which i think looks good and looks like a model to me perhaps i'm wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Well the Phoniex Cgi is from a First contact .....its bound to be better than enterprise standered

    i think the credits look good the implus ships look good nice design


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I think the cgi on the probe was pretty good. But why did the probe crash land after firing?

    I think this is a setup by the Enterprises version of Cancer man. Hope the plot has a good few twists like that and not just an obivous plot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    yeah if thats CGI for the phoenix it looks quite good but then again it was for a film so thats far enough. Perhaps its just the quality of the CGI i have an issue with then, how picky am I :)

    its no wonder then that enterprise looks good as its the main bloody piece.

    anywho back on track, the bird of prey looked quite advanced its seems the klingon general ship design hasn't changed much over the centuries either. does anyone know the timeline well enough to know if the klingons have cloaking devices yet? or when was the klingon/romulan alliance?

    (or did i just dream that alliance? i'm sure they had an alliance with technology trade?)

    data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    I think the cgi on the probe was pretty good. But why did the probe crash land after firing?

    Maybe the probe didnt have any sub light engines ...either that or it didnt work like it was ment to

    i think a better question is why the Xindi used a small probe to attack earth in order to test the weapion system ?.....i mean why not test it against a small moon or something instead of tipping off earth


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    The Asian guy should be more familiar to you lot - he was Gavin Park in "Angel" and Agent Tom Baker in Season 2 of "24".

    This episode wasn't too bad considering I normaly want to execute the show's writers. The T'Pol bit was sleazy but *shrug* whatever gets ya viewers.

    I wanted to see the laser beam slice open more things but stupid Trip had to wake up.

    Archer shows a bit more guts - about time. Still think Sisko is the man for this mission.

    Don't like the new tune - bring back the old version!

    Military assualt team = GOOD.

    Xindi themselves - bit meh so far. Unoriginal insect creatures, yet-another-human-with-makeup job, and dolphins. We'll see...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Perhaps its just the quality of the CGI i have an issue with then, how picky am I

    ya your pritty picky alright (damn you dubliners) :p
    anywho back on track, the bird of prey looked quite advanced its seems the klingon general ship design hasn't changed much over the centuries either. does anyone know the timeline well enough to know if the klingons have cloaking devices yet? or when was the klingon/romulan alliance?

    Well the klingons are a more war based race that fround on people who arent warriors (cant blame them....tax dodgeing studens) that would no douth set back their basic technology and ship design

    The klingons are "ment" to have got cloakes for the rommys in exchange for D-7s in their "supposed" alliance something before or dureing TOS (maybe the rommys and klingons though of earth as such a threat that it spawned a short alliance) ..but remember as fair as i know the Allinace was never mentioned on screen its more of a accpted fan/back stage idea from what i know anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Originally posted by Dataisgod
    does anyone know the timeline well enough to know if the klingons have cloaking devices yet? or when was the klingon/romulan alliance?

    (or did i just dream that alliance? i'm sure they had an alliance with technology trade?)

    data

    The alliance should start a good bit after enterprise. If i remember my kirk star trek, starfleet went to war with romulans without ever seeing wat they look like. It was a space based war.

    But if you follow the original star trek correctly, proton torpedos aren't introduced til the romulans attack starbases along the neutural zone. Kirk has to fight of a cloaked warbird and discovers the romulans looks like vulcans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    . If i remember my kirk star trek, starfleet went to war with romulans without ever seeing wat they look like. It was a space based war.

    that war starts only like 2-4 years from this seasion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Originally posted by bizmark
    that war starts only like 2-4 years from this seasion

    Yeah, i kinda knew it would considering they have already meet the romulans.

    Maybe archer was the captain who proposed the romulan treaty over the com system and made the neutural zone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Maybe

    If the war starts only 4 years from the current seasion the feds would only have 4 nx class ships so its likely the flagship (which enterprise is or will be) would lead many battles and host the treaty talks at the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,714 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    A very good 1st episode to a very good season (so far). Looking forward to episode 11 next week :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    how are you that far ahead ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    ah he must be getting them from the states somewhere or other i think i enquired about it before.

    with regards to the asian guy i don't watch angel or 24 tbh so i'm not that familiar with him

    i think that romulan earth war lead to the treaty of algeron or something which is where it was laid down that starfleet couldn't develop cloaking devices


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,714 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    Yea I get them from the states. God bless broadband ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    I thought it was excellent but the new version of the song is rubbish.. i actually liked the song as it was!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,043 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Originally posted by clownboy

    But if you follow the original star trek correctly, proton torpedos aren't introduced til the romulans attack starbases along the neutural zone. Kirk has to fight of a cloaked warbird and discovers the romulans looks like vulcans.

    I remember that, also think I remember Spock then mentioning "Oh yeah, they're cousins of us" ("funny I never mentioned that before"). Or maybe it was the romulan who came out with that revelation.

    Last night's Enterprise was passable, as opposed to the "oh god it's awful, but I'll still give it a chance don't know why" episodes previously. I'm expecting those council aliens to give a "muhahahaha" in the last few seconds of an episode one of these days.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    It was spock who said that they were cousins because i remember some pleb in a red uniform going mad and saying spock was a traitor or something.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭halenger


    I must say I was rather impressed... I hadn't seen the last episode of the last series so it was cool to see that too.

    The Klingon Bird of Prey looked small and not too dissimilar to the later ones but it looked a little too advanced. Shoudn't it look a little like the Romulan Bird of Prey, of that time? With a big painted Bird underneath? :p

    I'm liking the look of the new series but... Has anyone ever heard of the Xindi? or the Delphic Expanse? I don't remember hearing of either ever before in Star Trek.

    I like how the planet was blown up 120 years previously but it did leave me confused-which is good!

    L4? Probably a military term for what they did. A quick google didn't help. Best ask a pilot or someone who knows planes very well.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by halenger
    L4? Probably a military term for what they did.
    More likely an injoke referring to our own L4 poster. Yes it's a shout out to Boards!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    I have to say T'POLS boobies were worth waiting for


    Shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    emm i was looking oveer this topic and trying to figure it out but it makes no sence. The romulan war cant take place after or during enterprise

    for 2 reasons

    1.A reference is made that the war was fought with old age nucular detanators (the romualn bird of prey in TOS had one of the dedantors left and used that to self destruct)

    2.A Reference was made that the treay was done over subspace because they did not have viewscrenes at the time and enterprise does have them.

    This is all very confusing, damm temperal cold war its probbley all the Krennims fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Enterprise has destroyed the time line

    but they did have viewscreens BUT the rommys didnt use it
    old age nucular detanators

    the first 2 seasions torps where only nukes the enterprise only got photons because it was off to save earth ...more than likely most earth ships will still have normal nukes for the war and might get photons halfway though the war


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    Going back a bit.

    The ror/kling allience was mentioned on screan, In a TOS episode.
    As i recall Kirk started pretending to be unstable and sent the enterprise to the netruel zone where 3D7`s surrounded it.
    They tured out to be romulans (Kirk knew this he was pretening to be unstable to try to steal a romulan cloaking device)

    The romulans gave the klingons cloaking tech and the klingions gave them D7 plans and better warp technolagy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    welcome to boards slidersledge and specifically to the star trek forum, anywho due general boards rules we can't put links and stuff to general file sharing of illegal material more commonly know as warez

    regards

    data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    It is actually a good policy but the main thing i like about this forum is the no adds crap that you get in other forums.

    Some forums if you click on a thread or click post reply and you are rediricted to a add before you are allowed post.


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