acid .. to dangerous to chance taking it?

Frank Grimes · 07-01-2004 8:31pm

Originally posted by newband
because i'm intelligent, and because i have never tried the drug means my opinion, unlike yours, is not biest(spellcheck)

Your opinion is biased. You're going on about how bad drugs are, how intelligent people don't take them etc. etc.
Seriously, the OP wants to know about taking acid. You jumping in with your "please think of the children" ramblings won't discourage him or anyone from taking drugs.
At least he's asking for advise, rather than just going ahead and taking it without know what he's in for.

FreaK_BrutheR · 07-01-2004 8:36pm

Ive, in the past, taken LSD over a period of a about 2 years to the tune of about 5+ tabs a week so I do know what Im talking about.

Ive had many great experiences while using this drug and on the flipsode have ended up in varying states of mania and panic. I would never tell anyone not to do something... Im of the ilk try anything once unless its obviously going to kill you

Be with people you know in environments you are comfortable with on your first few trips and you'll be fine. Nothing really induces bad trips like uneasiness... as your senses are so heightened this multiplies your senses so a simple thing can set you off in fits of giggles, happiness or panic and paranoia.

It is by no means a safe drug but then if it had a list of instructions printed on the back of each sheet then it probably would be. I mean you learn how to use it like you learn how to use alcohol, panadol or whatever in a safe fun way. Use it .... don't abuse it.

I aint had my hands on any in ages.... I would have no real problem taking it again but I would never go back to the amounts I took years back. once every six months would be senough for me. You just grow out of mental drug taking after a while. Im gettin old I am.

If you're doing this for any other reason than for yourself. ie to impress your matoes then sod it.... you're on to a loser to start with and cop the flook on.

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 8:36pm

Originally posted by Frank Grimes
Your opinion is biased. how intelligent people don't take them etc. etc.

first of all, i didn't say this mmmk?

Originally posted by Frank Grimes
Seriously, the OP wants to know about taking acid. You jumping in with your "please think of the children" ramblings won't discourage him or anyone from taking drugs.At least he's asking for advise, rather than just going ahead and taking it without know what he's in for.

i'm jumping in with my opinion nothin else..
i personally don't give a **** if he takes it or not.. so wots ur point grimmey, u do have a point dont u?

Frank Grimes · 07-01-2004 8:41pm

Originally posted by newband
i'm jumping in with my opinion nothin else..
i personally don't give a **** if he takes it or not.. so wots ur point grimmey, u do have a point dont u?

You're offering your opinion on a subject you obviously know nothing about whatsoever.
I think my point was clear, he wants to know about acid. You know nothing about it or any other drug.
All you can say is the usual drugs are bad rubbish they teach kids in school.

TacT · 07-01-2004 8:45pm

ROFL - hook, line and sinker

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 8:49pm

Originally posted by Frank Grimes
You're offering your opinion on a subject you obviously know nothing about whatsoever.I think my point was clear, he wants to know about acid. You know nothing about it or any other drug.

wot gives u this idea? you think because i haven't tried it that i dont know about it?? i haven't tried smokin either, but i still know that it causes cancer, and it can KILL u.. i'm sorry to tell u this but u are talkin out of ur ass!!

Originally posted by Frank Grimes
All you can say is the usual drugs are bad rubbish they teach kids in school.

so u honestly think that drugs aren't bad? seriously man, i reckon u is in need of a few more years of edumafacation:D

Kold · 07-01-2004 8:53pm

if he wanted to be preached to he wouldn't have posted, now stfu

Ryo Hazuki · 07-01-2004 8:54pm

All this is giving me headache.

I headin down for a large cone...

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 8:56pm

Originally posted by Kold
if he wanted to be preached to he wouldn't have posted, now stfu

all i did was post my opinion in the first place.. its not my fault all u **** stains disagree with me now is it?.. now stfu!

TacT · 07-01-2004 9:03pm

All the original poster did was post a thread looking for advice on taking lsd, NOT your opinion on not taking it or the ridiculous idea he's going to think he can fly and will instantly jump off a building and DIE because DRUGS WILL KILL.

BlitzKrieg · 07-01-2004 9:06pm

By Newband:
Acid (LSD)

Dangers..

death - people believe they can fly, walk on water etc.

To paraphrase the glorious words of Bill hicks

-If he knew he could fly why didnt he start on the ground? Idiot! Birds dont go to the top of buildings to fly they start at the ground!-

my new comment
Dont let idiots take drugs. U must have at least a B1 in higher level common sense before taking drugs.

Sadly i know i am only a B3 so i dont trust myself hence no druggie for me, i'll stick to the C2 grade of alco and the D1 grade of television and computer games.

Maybe someone should create a common sense exam?

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 9:10pm

Originally posted by TacT
the ridiculous idea he's going to think he can fly and will instantly jump off a building and DIE because DRUGS WILL KILL.

TacT, if that is ur real name, do u know how to read? honestly, cos u are such a dumbass, seriously!!

Acid (LSD)

Dangers..

death - people believe they can fly, walk on water etc.

go and read little boy, http://www.aviationmedicine.co.za/drugs.php

Mercury_Tilt · 07-01-2004 9:19pm

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leonotron · 07-01-2004 9:25pm

How can thinking you can walk on water get you killed, surely it would just get you wet? Maybe you would get hypothermia from your wet clothes?

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 9:27pm

Originally posted by leonotron
How can thinking you can walk on water get you killed, surely it would just get you wet? Maybe you would get hypothermia from your wet clothes?

ye ya do get wet, its all part of drowning ya dope!

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 9:38pm

Originally posted by Mercury_Tilt
Nice link newband.

As a side note I was once in a room with two guys doing acid.

Year later one of them was dead.

Think about it.

this has basically put everythin i have said in a nice, small, easy to read paragraph.. thank you Mercury for puttin it in a way that some of these people may be able to understand..

leonotron · 07-01-2004 9:50pm

Originally posted by newband
ye ya do get wet, its all part of drowning ya dope!

So everyone that get sin to a swimming pool all drown too as they get wet. Are you in teh pub drinking all day? You get more ignorant ans slow as the day goes on

leonotron · 07-01-2004 9:53pm

Originally posted by newband
this has basically put everythin i have said in a nice, small, easy to read paragraph.. thank you Mercury for puttin it in a way that some of these people may be able to understand..

He's taking the piss I would presume. I was once in a room with about 12 people on Acid and they are not dead. Neither are any coke heads I know. In fact I have only ever met one person who has since died from drugs. Thats a ratio of roughly 600:1
pretty goods odss I think

Mercury_Tilt · 07-01-2004 9:55pm

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D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 9:57pm

Originally posted by leonotron
So everyone that get sin to a swimming pool all drown too as they get wet. Are you in teh pub drinking all day? You get more ignorant ans slow as the day goes on

ur argument just gets thinner and thinner as u go along man..

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 10:00pm

Originally posted by leonotron
He's taking the piss I would presume. I was once in a room with about 12 people on Acid and they are not dead. Neither are any coke heads I know. In fact I have only ever met one person who has since died from drugs. Thats a ratio of roughly 600:1
pretty goods odss I think

they aint dead YET.. and u really are a dumbass to keep on the drugs when one of ur own friends dies as a result of it... i really do pitty you..

passive · 07-01-2004 10:18pm

that link you gave reminded me of my religion book...it takes a fact regarding drugs and spins it in the most awful possible way. i know nothing about acid so i'll stay off that topic (i recommend you do the same!)

but anyway...under cannibas this says

can cause severe dehydration, heart attack and loss of consciousness if mixed with other drugs

surely without specifying what other drugs or how much that sentence says absolutely nothing about cannibas? basically: mixing substance A (known) with SUBSTANCE X (aaaargh, what is it!!?) can do bad things to you.

anyway, that just caught my eye...staying well enough away from this topic. i would consider cannibas a lot safer than anything else and it is, at present, the only thing i'm willing to try. though i'm sure i could die from this too newband?

D!ve^Bomb! · 07-01-2004 10:26pm

Originally posted by passive
though i'm sure i could die from this too newband?

hopefully

07-01-2004 10:38pm

Originally posted by newband
hopefully

welcomes to bansville...population: YOU

lampsie · 07-01-2004 10:50pm

Hmmm.

I'd have to say I come down right on the fence on this issue (ouch)..posts on drug topics usually tend to very black or white..

On the one hand, there are the people who are terrified of the very thought that people could possible do something as wreckless and irresponsible as take 'drugs' - these people, while quite often having their heart in the right place, often go about making their point so badly that their arguments actually have the opposite effect of what they desire. To these people, I would recommend backing up arguments with cold hard facts. Scientific studies preferably, just a bit of Googling to back up what you are saying is much more likely to acheive what you desire than arguing baseless 'facts' and scare stories.

On the other hand, you have the people who will argue until they are blue in the face that taking 'drugs' should be decided by yourself, not by some loud mouth holier-than-thou type (see above). These people quite often do have their heart in the right place also, however, in my personal experience I have found they can often be at least a bit naive about the possible negative effects of drugs, and in some cases can be downright arrogant about the issue. To these people, I would recommend that you accept that there are many, many people in the world who will never like 'drugs' in the way you do. Its not necessarily because they are 'thick' or 'stupid', its because there are geniune arguments against humans on 'drugs' also. There is positive, and there is negative. Not everyone will agree with you.. accept it.

To be honest, trying to consolidate the two opposing camps is likely only going to lead to an argument that will go on and on and on. Therefore, do us a favour, lock the thread*

*kidding, tis interesting to read..

Apologies to the original poster for going off topic.

passive · 07-01-2004 11:16pm

hopefully

wow...that was low...really...really pathetic and low.
thank you. you've just summed up your entire attitude in one post you ****ing asshole.

and i won't stoop to your level by telling you i hope you die too...but everyone knows i'm thinking it

Faust · 07-01-2004 11:19pm

I agree with the above statement and or comment.

HostMan · 07-01-2004 11:19pm

Read the book "pihkal".

The mad scientist author invented most of the acidy drugs we use today. It is an excellent read, from a personal experiences viewpoint and a chemical viewpoint.

Then you'll be able to make up your mind.

Cake Fiend · 07-01-2004 11:41pm

I'm quite amazed that people are still replying to newband - at this stage it's blatantly obvious he's either a troll or an idiot.

Newband, I remember when I was like you, a kid barely out of his teens with a head full of good intentions but no real experience of the world. I'd stubbornly argue my point of view on a topic, regardless of how uninformed I was. When you grow up a bit, you'll realize that it's only an informed opinion that carries any weight - someone bitching and ranting with no structure to their argument and no solid proof to back up their side of the discussion will be (rightly) ignored by anyone with intelligence.

The bottom line is this: Adren has a choice of listening to either a ranting child or people with actual experience of the subject - who do you think he's going to listen to?

BlitzKrieg · 08-01-2004 1:40am

http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo/drugsearch/faq_template.asp?file=%5Cwip%5C11%5C1%5C2%5Cdangers.html

theres a prezzie for you newband

Its a pretty good (in my opinion) description of the dangers of drugs

Read it then re-read wha most people here have said

and

and

and

OMG!!! its the same sort of advice and opinions.

so dude chillax i dont do them either more for personal tastes then anything else.

PcP · 08-01-2004 7:14am

Okay so I say this:
"A lot of crap in this thread but I would like to nominate Newband for a boards award. How does 'most **** spewed in one thread' sound? or maybe 'most anally retarded poster'? Seriously man just stop, your points get thinner and thinner as you go on, and you just look even more like an idiot."
and you say:
"so drugs aren't dangerous then??"

What's the connection? I don't see anything there about the dangers of drugs. When I go on to mention the biggest danger (imho of course), not the only danger but the biggest danger you say I'm contradicting myself. So break it down for me.. where's the contradiction?

Also:

Originally posted by Mercury_Tilt
Nice link newband.

As a side note I was once in a room with two guys doing acid.

Year later one of them was dead.

Think about it.

Originally posted by newband
this has basically put everythin i have said in a nice, small, easy to read paragraph.. thank you Mercury for puttin it in a way that some of these people may be able to understand..

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH.
Think about it.

Dasilva94 · 08-01-2004 9:24am

Progression of drawings during a trip.

http://www.cowboybooks.com.au/html/acidtrip1.html

the Guru · 08-01-2004 9:28am

I wouldnt worry about it acid has been non existant now for about 10 years

the Guru · 08-01-2004 9:32am

Originally posted by Dasilva94
Progression of drawings during a trip.

http://www.cowboybooks.com.au/html/acidtrip1.html

my god drawing 6,7,8 art amazing the more tripped her got
the be

leonotron · 08-01-2004 9:42am

Originally posted by the Guru
I wouldnt worry about it acid has been non existant now for about 10 years

That's not true

Grom · 08-01-2004 9:59am

Ive just read this thread now for a hour taking all things into consideration Id say new probobly has his heart in the right place just has a very moronic way of putting it across.

Ive tryed shrooms and stilldo them till about 2 years ago, and Ive only ever had one bad trip out of a hell of a lot of times.I swore I wouldnt do em after that bad trip but then came picking season and we was off again:)

I aint done heroin or crac new and I dont intend to in fact ive given up all aspects of drugs bar alcohol which to me is just a nice way of socialising during the week when me and my mates head out.

Most of my mates still do drugs I dont preach to them about how it will ruin you and they dont ask me to to take them again.

a friend of ur sister, wow, ya must really now wot went on,, it doesn't matter wot ur parents do or wot estate ya live in,, ya have no idea wot goes on behind closed doors,,

Well then how do you know these people do it for the reasons your saying !! Examples : "To escape reality" or "Something is missing" its a tad hypocritical for you to say that to someone when you refered to the exact same thing just with a different analogy in a previous post.

IM not slating you however I do see why most people have.

Adren listen to sico he obviously knows what hes talking about.I aint had any ba exp's with drugs in my life bar one bad trip on shrooms just sickness and vomiting and total paranoia for about 5 hours.

All in all the decisions lies with you hopefullly for your sake what ever you do I wish you well/

Big Chief · 08-01-2004 10:01am

Originally posted by newband

http://www.aviationmedicine.co.za/drugs.php

that site is misinformed...

for example -

Cocaine

Street names Coke, Charlie, Toot, Snow, White Lady, Bolivian Marching Powder

Effects within seconds, last for few minutes - 15 at the most
intense euphoria, elation and surge of energy
w
ithin 20 minutes shivering, weak, depressed, paranoid, alone, threatened, irritable and aggressive - can last for days

Usage Generally smoked, sometimes injected

who smokes cocaine exactly?

within 20 minutes you are all that and it last for days?

i can see that this person has most likely been taught by one of those aforementioned teachers that i mentioned earlier about..

death - people believe they can fly, walk on water etc.

:rolleyes:

Grom · 08-01-2004 10:03am

Lol that site is really funny.

D!ve^Bomb! · 08-01-2004 10:39am

Originally posted by passive
and i won't stoop to your level by telling you i hope you die too...but everyone knows i'm thinking it

well u just contradicted yourself, congratulations:D

D!ve^Bomb! · 08-01-2004 10:45am

Originally posted by BlitzKrieg
http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo/drugsearch/faq_template.asp?file=%5Cwip%5C11%5C1%5C2%5Cdangers.html

theres a prezzie for you newband

Its a pretty good (in my opinion) description of the dangers of drugs

Read it then re-read wha most people here have said

and

and

and

OMG!!! its the same sort of advice and opinions.

so dude chillax i dont do them either more for personal tastes then anything else.

taken from ur precious link

There are many possible risks and dangers involved when using drugs.

The truth is somewhere in between. Drug use can never be 100 per cent safe.

Hallucinogenic drugs sometimes produce very disturbing experiences and may lead to erratic or dangerous behaviour by the user,.

do ya want me to keep goin

Faust · 08-01-2004 10:49am

Doctor J · 08-01-2004 10:49am

If yer in a good mood, acid is great. If you've something on yer mind, stay well away.

My first trip was to see Babe 2 - Pig In The City. Oh how I laughed

Then spent a further 6 hours listening to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (the long version including the drum solo) on repeat, waiting to come down. Great stuff.

D!ve^Bomb! · 08-01-2004 10:50am

Originally posted by PcP
What's the connection? I don't see anything there about the dangers of drugs. When I go on to mention the biggest danger (imho of course), not the only danger but the biggest danger you say I'm contradicting myself. So break it down for me.. where's the contradiction?

so u dont believe there are any dangers with drugs then go on to say

Originally posted by PcP
When I go on to mention the biggest danger

Originally posted by PcP
not the only danger but the biggest danger

make up your mind

D!ve^Bomb! · 08-01-2004 10:57am

Originally posted by Grom
Ive tryed shrooms and stilldo them till about 2 years ago, and Ive only ever had one bad trip out of a hell of a lot of times.I swore I wouldnt do em after that bad trip but then came picking season and we was off again:)

why did u swear u would never do them,, and in the end u still did them,,, mmm,, i wonder why??:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Grom
Well then how do you know these people do it for the reasons your saying !! Examples : "To escape reality" or "Something is missing" its a tad hypocritical for you to say that to someone when you refered to the exact same thing just with a different analogy in a previous post.

i didn't say EVERYONE dide it for these reasons now did i,, not everyone who does drugs does them for these reasons.. but a lot of ADDICTS do it for these reasons.. seriously, how many times do i need to repeat myself, its just gettin rediculous now

Faust · 08-01-2004 10:59am

Please newband please stop i get e-mailed these replies and they're painfully ignorant.

D!ve^Bomb! · 08-01-2004 11:00am

Originally posted by Big Chief
that site is misinformed...

for example -

who smokes cocaine exactly?

within 20 minutes you are all that and it last for days?

i can see that this person has most likely been taught by one of those aforementioned teachers that i mentioned earlier about..

u choose want u wnt to believe,, i don't particulary care..

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Death - people believe they can fly, walk on water etc

FACT, get used to it;)

Faust · 08-01-2004 11:02am

*cries* Why wont the trolling end!

Mossy Monk · 08-01-2004 11:07am

this thread has really brightened up my day

a wonderful troll

TheSonOfBattles · 08-01-2004 11:09am

Originally posted by Faust
*cries* Why wont the trolling end!

When Monty locks the thread, and goes on a banning spree.

And that can't come soon enough. I'm just glad I backed out before it descended into petty bickering, and childish retorts along the lines of: "My fact is true", "No, mine is"

D!ve^Bomb! · 08-01-2004 11:09am

why do u continue to think i am trolling when all i stated is facts an i have backed up my facts with hard eveidence,,, and even when i prove that what i am sayin is fact then u still choose to think i am trolling.. people choose wot they want to believe, even when wot they choose to believe is wrong

acid .. to dangerous to chance taking it?

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