Games not supported by Geforce 4 Mx

MisterAnarchy

I have a Geforce 4 MX 460 graphics card in my PC.
The rest of the pc is pretty powerful, and I have 768Mb of Ram.
I play the vast majority of games pretty well.
I think the games look well on my 17 inch tft and 28 inch widescreen.
Anyway lately some of the games I've bought wont work.
Silent Hill 3 was the first one.
Then Turok Evolution and now Deus Ex 2.
The card doesnt have hardware pixel and vertex shaders so it wont run the game.
Seems a bit much ?
Surely the developers could make the game run in some form or another ?

Faust

Originally posted by MisterAnarchy
I have a Geforce 4 MX 460 graphics card in my PC.
The rest of the pc is pretty powerful, and I have 768Mb of Ram.
I play the vast majority of games pretty well.
I think the games look well on my 17 inch tft and 28 inch widescreen.
Anyway lately some of the games I've bought wont work.
Silent Hill 3 was the first one.
Then Turok Evolution and now Deus Ex 2.
The card doesnt have hardware pixel and vertex shaders so it wont run the game.
Seems a bit much ?
Surely the developers could make the game run in some form or another ?

Happened to me with halo and prince of persia so i bought a new 3d card... nuf said

po0k

I've a GeForce2 Pro and I was able to run Halo, but not Deus Ex.
I'm not too bothered, will be getting a new machine soon enough.
As an interim solution, afaik the nVidia GeForceFX5200 is fully DirectX9 compliant, but is just clocked slower.
The ATi budget offerings afaik, while slightly faster in Dx8 games aren't fully Dx9 compliant.
Again, afaik.
www.xbitlabs.com had an article recently about the budget cards, might be worth a read.

Deadwing

AFAIK, Deus ex 2 requires your gfx card to have a pixel shader, otherwise it wont work. Which is a stinger cause its looks absolutely bootiful.

shinzon

how can you have deus x 2, thought that wasnt out till february

shin

oh and i have the demo, looks absolutely flippin gorgeous

MagicBusDriver

The best budget card is the ATI Radeon 9600 pro. The Nvidia FX cards are slow at DX9 games. HL2 benchmarks for example.

Thorbar

I've got a geforce 4 420 Go in my laptop. Seems to suffer from some of the same problems described above. Its a real pain in the arse because I'm fairly certain I can't upgrade my graphics card in my laptop.

Rev Hellfire

I'm fairly certain I can't upgrade my graphics card in my laptop

who told u that ?

you can get one of those new mobile video cards that come wrapped in a notebook.

zAbbo

The geforce4mx is the successor to the geforce2mx, so its not even better than a geforce3, heres the killer point - a gf4mx is not a directx8 or 9 card.

tman

its understandable enough, no modern games can be expected to run smoothly on a card that you can pick up for well under €80...

upgrade to a 9600xt tbh

Giblet

Deus Ex 2 runs ok on my

AMD 2500 @ 1.833
512MB 2700 ram
9600 pro @ 495/700

About 40-50 fps @ 800x600

BlitzKrieg

actually in a revearse of the topic


does anyone else find that XP is a pain for playing some averagly old games.


i have 2 gig windows xp with 128 ram and gf4


yet the following old games refuse to work

-alpha centauri

-freespace

-blood2 (i know crap but still)

is this cause of windows XP? or my GF card?


p.s is worms 3d also a non workin gforce 4 game?

Caffine

Originally posted by shinzon
how can you have deus x 2, thought that wasnt out till february

shin

oh and i have the demo, looks absolutely flippin gorgeous

either import from states or emule :P

and i must get that demo

tman

Originally posted by BlitzKrieg
yet the following old games refuse to work

-blood2 (i know crap but still)

is this cause of windows XP? or my GF card?


p.s is worms 3d also a non workin gforce 4 game?

blood 2 worked perfectly for me, i might've ran it in compatability mode though... (right click on the shortcut that you use to run the game, properties & then switch to the compatability tab)

worms 3d runs at about 10 frames per second on the lowest settings on my geforce4mx440 card.
i doubt it'd be very happy with running on a machine with 128mb of ram either...

SantaClaws

If you own a Ge-Force Mx 440 or maybe all the Gfmx's Range, DO NOT BUY Quake 3 Arena, cause my bro has 1 and it locks up and **** and plays just ****e.

Giblet

No, your brother is just an idiot, Quake 3 works fine.

tman

Originally posted by Giblet
No, your brother is just an idiot, Quake 3 works fine.

yep, runs like a dream on mine on the highest detail settings.

po0k

Originally posted by SantaClaws
If you own a Ge-Force Mx 440 or maybe all the Gfmx's Range, DO NOT BUY Quake 3 Arena, cause my bro has 1 and it locks up and **** and plays just ****e.

It's an OpenGL game.
It'll run on anything that has a decent OpenGL v1.2(1.3?) implementation.
Whatever extensions your card supports, it'll use, and whatever it doesn't Q3 will either use in software or do without.

po0k

Originally posted by shinzon
how can you have deus x 2, thought that wasnt out till february

shin

oh and i have the demo, looks absolutely flippin gorgeous

Which is what I was referring to and which MisterAnarchy was probably referring to aswell.

Deadwing

On the topic of old games not running on XP, i found that too, aliens versus predator ran like a 3 legged dog, hung, and crashed my comp quite a bit. But who cares when you can throw on some call of duty instead.

po0k

Use Win2k instead.
"WinXP without the shite"

astrofool

time to move on syxpak

u'll still be using win2k and steel cases in 5 years time !

po0k

Originally posted by astrofool
time to move on syxpak

u'll still be using win2k and steel cases in 5 years time !

Dunno about win2k, but a steel case, yeah probably, for the main comms section of the house, the rack etc.
Aluminium for the pico itx nodes arond the house, wodd paneling for the casing of the entscentre...
Will probably all be running some flavour of *n*x, but as for the processing hierarchy, dunno.
All fixed clients over fibre, the mobile nodes, wireless.

MisterAnarchy

I have the full game.Pity I cant play it.

zAbbo

Originally posted by SyxPak
Use Win2k instead.
"WinXP without the shite"

making sure its sp4, the first ver of win2k was a dog to play

milltown

I wouldn't get my hopes up for Deus Ex 2. As I said in another thread it ran as jumpy as me after two weeks off the ciggies (god I miss them) on my xp2400/512mb/9700pro machine. The answer I got was that it's a common complaint and the game seems almost as fussy as Halo about demanding the greatest hardware known to man. Basically.

po0k

Originally posted by bazH
making sure its sp4, the first ver of win2k was a dog to play

Never install a point-zero release of anything or an odd-numbered service pack

Running Sp4 Dx9b here

po0k

And AvP1 runs like a dream at 1152x864@32bit full detail.

Civilian_Target

As has been previously pointed out, a GF4MX gets twatted by the Geforce 3. In fact, and correct me if I'm wrong because I was only told this, never shown it:

Geforce 2 Ti - NV 15
Geforce 4 MX - NV 17
Geforce 3 Ti - NV 18
Geforce 4 Ti - NV 20

Don't replace your GF4MX with an FX 5200, or anything by ATi ending with SE, you'll only end up in the same shít again.