Connecting to www.apple.com

dub45

Just wondering if anyone else is having problems connecting to the Apple site? I am with Clicksilver and I was wondering if the problem is UTV related or a more general one. Several other Clicksilver uses have reported similar problems connecting to the Apple site

tomk

At work at the moment - I'll check it out on my UTV BB at home later.

daveyjoe

It's UTV only, I've tried the site on eircom BB and on IOL dial-up and it worked fine, but it seems to only work in spurts with UTV.
Has been like this with apple.com for over a week.

Discussion about this has been going on in the UTV newsgroup, in case you didn't know.

dub45

Discussion about this has been going on in the UTV newsgroup, in case you didn't know.

Yeah I actually started the discussion but I thought it might be an idea to post here to get feedback from users of other ISPs.

tomk

Post this in the newsgroup - it might help them out:

Traceroute to apple.com from UTV BB:

Starting trace - Jan 29, 2004 21:21:30
Tracing to www.apple.com [17.112.152.32]....
Hops IP Address RTT(ms)
1 x.x.x.x 1 private address
2 195.218.116.25 39
3 195.218.116.1 37
4 195.218.126.174 37
5 195.218.112.195 47
6 195.92.55.134 57
7 195.50.116.121 52
8 212.113.3.29 57
9 212.113.3.9 57
10 212.187.128.153 122
11 64.159.4.150 117
12 4.68.127.6 122
13 12.123.3.57 122
14 12.122.10.2 142
15 12.122.10.6 202
16 12.122.2.245 192
17 TIMED OUT
18 TIMED OUT
19 TIMED OUT
20 TIMED OUT
21 TIMED OUT
22 TIMED OUT
23 TIMED OUT
24 TIMED OUT
etc etc - I went to 60 hops without result.

Traceroute to apple.com from eircom.net(dial-up):

Starting trace - Jan 29, 2004 19:20:04
Tracing to www.apple.com [17.254.0.91]....
Hops IP Address RTT(ms)
1 159.134.238.173 141
2 159.134.248.90 141
3 159.134.126.221 136
4 159.134.191.110 237
5 12.118.100.5 236
6 12.123.3.90 266
7 12.122.10.2 254
8 12.122.10.6 294
9 12.123.221.17 286
10 12.118.116.10 288
11 TIMED OUT
12 TIMED OUT
13 TIMED OUT
14 17.254.0.91 290
Host reached

Crucial difference (in case my bold underlining didn't point it out) - the resolved IP addresses do not match.

Hops 14/15 in the UTV trace are the same as hops 7/8 in the Eircom trace, and you would expect everything after that to be the same in both, regardless of the source.

Don't ask me what all this means - hopefully someone in UTV does.

Moriarty

Theres been a brief discussion about this on the IIU mailing list.

daveyjoe

Change your proxy as detailed in IIU, use 195.218.116.8 port 80 as proxy.
All is fine now.

eth0_

UTV seem to have a lot of DNS f*ck ups like this. Having said that, i'm on utv free dial up the past few days with no problems accessing apple.com

dub45

UTV seem to have a lot of DNS f*ck ups like this.

There was once a time when you would never have let such words cross you lips or should I say keyboard

the proxy change seems to have fixed it thanks!:)