ISDN V's High Speed?

Jedi

Just a question lads.

Is there any difference between ISDN and High speed. Its just that Eircom have said that the estate i'm in, in maynooth is not equiped for ISDN but it is possible to upgrade the existing line to a high speed.

Now to my knowledge there is no difference but dont want to make the mistake of getting it if its not.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Tom (Jedi)

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gandalf

Jedi Lad,

1. Do not believe a word that those Eircum muppets say.

2. Afaik the only difference is the way that they set up the line. High Speed is apparently cheaper for them to set up. After that I don't have a clue.

Maybe our resident Eircum pinup Bubbles can answer this question

Gandalf.

tHE vAGGABOND

Tom,

I got the same and have found this as one of the reasons mine has taken ages..

ISDN - is a whole new line..

High Speed is a upgrade of a line to ISDN

-=High Speed is 4 odd week wait anywhere, they wont do ISDN anywhere....

That is what I was told by 2 ppl anyway

Jedi

Eircom are a flaming bag of poo. *****s. See some french company has bought Orange maybe they can sort the Irish telecom system out.

Seriously ****ed off:

Jedi

creative

After talking to them it seems that High Speed is simply a duel PDSN line...two normal phone lines that can be shared.

Jedi

Oh the tecnology.

"I know, Lets join 2 phone lines together and call it High speed" said chief design expert for eircom.

"Fantastic Idea that will fool all those non educated people into thinking that high speed is super dooper and we can then charge then loads of money for it, hahahaha", says the smart little eircom p.r.i.c.k down the back.

"so do we all agree this is the way to go"
"ok lets screw some customers, hehe"


P.R.I.C.K.S

Jedi

Sonic

WANN!!!

lphchild

After askin' to be signed up to the expanding betas of ADSL in Dublin.
Got a mail from Eircom this mornin' sayin that there would be open ADSL trials later this year in Dublin depending on your exchange......whether I believe it or not is another thing.

[lph]

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Dr_Teeth

Lads, hush. A "High Speed" line is an ISDN line, the only difference between it and what we're used to is that when you ask for "High Speed" you're asking them to take the normal phoneline into your house and turn it into an ISDN line, so you can use one channel of the line for LPB 0wnage, and the other channel for the normal phone so your wife/parents/flatmates don't get on your case about tying up the line.

When you ask for an "ISDN Line" you're asking them to put a completely new line into your house, so you still have your phoneline as before, but now you have the two channels of the ISDN line along with that - ie you can have two computers on the net simultaneously without affecting the normal phone line.

This is all basically 'markitecture'. "High Speed" is an ISDN line, it's just installed differently - it replaces the phone-line you've always had. This means it's faster to install. It's not ADSL or anything wonderful like that, but it will make you an LPB and doesn't cost much, so be happy.

Teeth.

Jedi

OK well that sounds a bit better. Cheers for that. Eircom are still so gay though this does not change my opinion.

Vorosha

yer wan from eircom says it'll "take 30 days, maybe shorter, no longer" for dem to install high speed. she right? i heard it was 2 munths.

Jedi

Yep called them this afternoon again and they said less than 30 days. which isn't that bad. So that will mean only 11 weeks waiting altogether.

Carnage

well it's gonna take them 6 weeks (apparently) to install a standard landline into our house, and untill then i'm stuck using a prepaid cellphone expensive.

but i read an article in the paper that reckoned that there was some company or another, not eircom, that was going to be offering broadband services later this year. and the eircom man reckoned that they'd have 'dsl trials happening in june. (he muttered something about from the 10th)

walt

I got my ****TY ISDN in less than a week!

Vorosha

Processing replies. Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector. lol.

SickBoy

Ah shur Walt0r aren't you the only person in Ennis with a computer! They don't have much else to do so I'd look at it as been delayed by 3 or 4 days

Chubby

Originally posted by creative:
After talking to them it seems that High Speed is simply a duel PDSN line...two normal phone lines that can be shared.

Is there a difference between PSDN and ISDN lines physically? It's just different equipment at the end of the lines to send/recieve digital instead of analog signals right? How much is this gonna cost?

Shiminay

AFAIK - ISDN = Fiber-Op lines whereas PSTN isn't. That's why they wouldn't be able to give ISDN to everyone as not everywhere has access to a fiber-op line.

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Vincent

ok i've 2 phone lines at the moment, would 1 highspeed/isdn line be cheaper than having 2 normal lines? If i was to get highspeed i would still have 1 normal line do i still have to pay rental on this? u's say it's one line with 2 channels or whatever, so what is the bandwidth like when a person i using the phone while u're on the net, what does it do to ping?

m1ke

it's montly rental is something like £35 every month inc vat... bit more expensive then 2 normal lines but not if u want a nice lpb ping. It is essentially ISDN so being online/using the phone is done by separate channels.

spartac

Isdn and Hi speed is the same thing.
When you ring and ask about the cost of installation remember they dont tell u about your ISP charge of £200+ quid a year.
Actually afaik Indigo is £200 a year whereas Eircom is 230 to 250.
I dont know why i havent changed over to Indigo..too lazy i reckon.
Also when you are getting and isdn line u are not getting a new line.
They put a Terminal adapter at your end and sort something out at the exchange at the other end.
And when I got it..2 years ago...You have to install software on your computer for the TA.
I eventually got it working after a few days but havent a clue how to use the two channels to connect to the net for an even lower ping.
Maybe with Hi-speed they sort out your computer..or have the installation of the software easy for non-tech heads.
But be sure to ask on the phone while ordering it.

Dr_Teeth

Umm no.

You can use ISDN with EircomFree, BuyandSell, Oceanfree (I haven't tried any others). ISP cost doesn't factor into it.

Teeth.

Steven

Damn you Esat! Damn You to hell!

Jedi

Just one last question. If I upgrade to ISDN is it possible to change back to an Analog phone line. This is a nessity as my landlord requires I do this if I ever decided to leave the gaff I'm in?

and if so whats the cost.?

Shiminay

There's one sure-fire way to get it switched back to Analog Tom, just don't pay the bills...