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dave_o_brien

This is the same argument that one has when someone of a certain vintage says music was better in the old days.

It wasn't. It's just that now, at a certain remove, nobody remembers the cheap, nasty crap that sold the most: the only things that people remember now is the quality stuff. Nobody gets nostalgic listening to the Bay City Rollers.

happytramp

dave_o_brien wrote: »

This is the same argument that one has when someone of a certain vintage says music was better in the old days.

Except that music actually was better in the old days. 60's-90's vs the ear puke of the last two decades.

I think the fondness for good quality steel frames stems from the fact that many frames today look like a step back down the evolutionary ladder. It's been ingrained into us to believe that small, slim, minimalist, chrome is good while fat, clunky, plasticy looking is bad. Many modern bikes are the visual equivalent of the 1980's giant mobile phone. "Look everybody... we've made our product bigger, added more material, made it more fussy and cluttered"

RonanCFD

Some vintage frames leave me a little cold, but Quigs' Colnago is absolutely beautiful. Would it be complete heresy to build a frameset like this up with modern components? (Campag of course). I have no nostalgia for downtube shifters at all, and the thought of going back to the brake calipers from a few decades ago fills me with fear.

Of course there's also the slight problem that I have no need for another steel bike, but when did that stop anyone?

Lusk_Doyle

happytramp wrote: »

Except that music actually was better in the old days. 60's-90's vs the ear puke of the last two decades.

I think the fondness for good quality steel frames stems from the fact that many frames today look like a step back down the evolutionary ladder. It's been ingrained into us to believe that small, slim, minimalist, chrome is good while fat, clunky, plasticy looking is bad. Many modern bikes are the visual equivalent of the 1980's giant mobile phone. "Look everybody... we've made our product bigger, added more material, made it more fussy and cluttered"

Are you allowed to even have a bike in Jail? :pac:

OldBean

May I present to you the best of both worlds. And possibly mine for Christmas...



Velo-Orange's new Passhunter. Lovely.

Lusk_Doyle

Aaaaaahhhhh......

Quigs Snr

RonanCFD wrote: »

Some vintage frames leave me a little cold, but Quigs' Colnago is absolutely beautiful. Would it be complete heresy to build a frameset like this up with modern components? (Campag of course). I have no nostalgia for downtube shifters at all, and the thought of going back to the brake calipers from a few decades ago fills me with fear.

Of course there's also the slight problem that I have no need for another steel bike, but when did that stop anyone?

Colnago still make this frame built with modern campag record. It was reviewed on bikeradar last month (at an eye watering £4500+ pricepoint)

07Lapierre

Pinarello's are so light they float!

RonanCFD

Quigs Snr wrote: »

Colnago still make this frame built with modern campag record. It was reviewed on bikeradar last month (at an eye watering £4500+ pricepoint)

I was just poking around and saw that. Only problem is that my budget would be missing a zero off that!

Lusk_Doyle

Now there's capturing the Olympic spirit and then there's this...a thing of real beauty!



Fairly sure that there's an old Colnago or some other heap of steel under there somewhere :pac:

mossym

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Aaaaaahhhhh......

no recessed brakes for aero purposes? discounted straight away, may as well buy an old peugeot

Just kidding, think wheelworx have a less flash version of this in store. lovely looking machine

Raam

TT bikes are awful. All of them. Especially this one. It looks like a fúcking boat or something.

Lusk_Doyle

Raam wrote: »

TT bikes are awful. All of them. Especially this one. It looks like a fúcking boat or something.

You're only saying that cos you ain't no good at TT'ing on the flat! :pac:

wendell borton

Brian? wrote: »

This is clearly nonsense.

It's more Lexus GS300 v fiat 127.

A soulless badge enginered barge vs. A foundly remembered characterful classic.

mossym

wendell borton wrote: »

A soulless babe enginered barge vs. A foundly remembered characterful classic.

exactly.

will both get you there: Yes
Will one get you there faster: yes.
in more comfort: yes
with more gadgets: Yes

which one gives the bigger smile though....ahhh

Lusk_Doyle

mossym wrote: »

exactly.

will both get you there: Yes
Will one get you there faster: yes.
in more comfort: yes
with more gadgets: Yes

which one gives the bigger smile though....ahhh

Yea. I just got rid of my tractor and bought a horse so I can till the fields old school style. So satisfying and people will look at me and say "Wow, that guy is rocking the old school approach. Now let's all lean forward and clap ourselves on the back for being so so retro and awesome."

Puh-lease!

AstraMonti

This comparison is daft, more images of beauty please less chat, chop chop.

mossym

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Yea. I just got rid of my tractor and bought a horse so I can till the fields old school style. So satisfying and people will look at me and say "Wow, that guy is rocking the old school approach. Now let's all lean forward and cap ourselves on the back for being so so retro and awesome."

Puh-lease!

ah, well if the main priority is what other people think then i can understand the shiny new bike fascination.

and that's an awful analogy. it's like comparing a new bike to walking. plenty of blokes in Ireland (not one of them myself) who meet up at vintage tractor rallys every weekend, so the same fascination is there with old tractors as well. can that old tractor till as well as a new one? probably slower, but it will work.

you know what they say about flawed analogies.........:D

mossym

AstraMonti wrote: »

This comparison is daft, more images of beauty please less chat, chop chop.

sorry you;re right. time to go truly retro.






probably get banned for that, but my last post on the retro subject, i promise..

Seaneh

OldBean wrote: »

May I present to you the best of both worlds. And possibly mine for Christmas...


Velo-Orange's new Passhunter. Lovely.

The brazing on the stays and the lugging on the fork crowns is fecking gorgeous.

So much want.

AstraMonti

This is so cool

rollingscone

AstraMonti wrote: »

This is so cool

A steed for your next evil 200?

AstraMonti

Haha! I haven't lost my mind.. that much yet!

Brendan Hennessy

Ah old bean, here's my recently finished real old bean.

A 1955 Claud Butler, with Campagnolo Valentino rear mech & single 5speed lever, Magistrone cottered crank, old Leopard Hubs, 27x11/4 Weinmann Rims, Milremo Bars, Weinmann Brakes, Bluemel Guards. I made the bottle cage out of 50's Meccano - nearly took me as long as building the whole bike! Could be yours for Christmas too!

But, wow do I salute your Velo Orange find!










Velo-Orange's new Passhunter. Lovely.[/QUOTE]

Harrybelafonte

Harrybelafonte

AstraMonti wrote: »

This is so cool

http://vimeo.com/78481279

Quigs Snr

Someone mentioned putting modern components on a classic. This sort of fits the bill. Same steel Master frame as my own, albeit far more recent version (limited edition gold and black) with modern components. Interesting build.

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Lusk_Doyle

How about this for a tandem ride!

Lusk_Doyle

This is a Ferrari so it must be beautiful, right?

Zyzz

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

This is a Ferrari so it must be beautiful, right?

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