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    #1652
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


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    #1653
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    I should point out that that is not my house, not my bike and not my hand.


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    #1654
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,064 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Too much setback on the seatpost, and that crankset is minging. In fact I'd bin all that finishing kit. £3100 for a lugged frameset? è uno scherzo, vero?


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    #1655
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Lumen wrote: »
    Too much setback on the seatpost

    Depends who is riding the bike, init?


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    #1656
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,064 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Raam wrote: »
    Depends who is riding the bike, init?

    No. For three grand I expect the frame to fit.


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    #1657
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    I had that seatpost and had to swap it for the 0 setback, it was ridiculous, I think it goes 0 then 25mm and my saddle has very short rails. But that FSA K-Force kit is sweet.

    Lovely bike, if David Hasslehoff made a show about a talking bike with turbo mode, that would be it.


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    #1658
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Lumen wrote: »
    No. For three grand I expect the frame to fit.

    meow! Bad day at the office? ;)


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    #1659
    morninwood
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭morninwood


    i beg to disagree. loving the look of the bike. black with a bit of red and white is just sexy.


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    #1660
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    morninwood wrote: »
    i beg to disagree. loving the look of the bike. black with a bit of red and white is just sexy.

    Finally, someone with good taste.
    I would agree that the crankset ain't the nicest though.


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    #1661
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Raam wrote: »
    Finally, someone with good taste.
    I would agree that the crankset ain't the nicest though.

    What about me? I said I liked it! Give Dirk some of that credit pie!


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    #1662
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    What about me? I said I liked it! Give Dirk some of that credit pie!

    OK so, welcome to the party.


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    #1663
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,064 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Raam wrote: »
    meow! Bad day at the office? ;)

    Sorry, I wasn't directing that at your Cervelo setback issues.

    I just think that since Colnago insists on using ancient lugged construction on the basis that it can offer eleventy million frame sizes, it's a bit stupid for them to stick a massively setback seatpost (typically used to correct a poorly fitted frame) onto a demo bike.


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    #1664
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Lumen wrote: »
    Sorry, I wasn't directing that at your Cervelo setback issues.

    Not a problem anymore.
    Lumen wrote: »
    I just think that since Colnago insists on using ancient lugged construction on the basis that it can offer eleventy million frame sizes, it's a bit stupid for them to stick a massively setback seatpost (typically used to correct a poorly fitted frame) onto a demo bike.

    What is wrong with lugs?


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    #1665
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,064 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Raam wrote: »
    What is wrong with lugs?

    Ugly bodge. They make the bike look like it was assembled from hula hoops and grissini.


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    #1666
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Raam wrote: »

    What is wrong with lugs?

    This

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/amphalon/3315616307/
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    #1667
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Lumen wrote: »
    Ugly bodge. They make the bike look like it was assembled from hula hoops and grissini.

    I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as I quite like them.

    Suppose you ain't a fan of this either?

    Look-595-det.jpg


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    #1668
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,064 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    No, it's lovely. But it would be lovelier without lugs. edit: and I think Mavic ought to use a UD finish on the Cosmics, that weave is a bit 1990s/Planet-X.

    Also, I think Look have done OK with the lugs and the angular design. The EPS is a more organic shape which would look better with a monocoque, or subtler lugs as used on the De Rosa Neo Pro:

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    Actually, it might just be the angle. Those lugs look quite similar, maybe I was just put off by all the FSA.

    FWIW I think lugs on a classic steel frame are nice.


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    #1669
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    I fail to see the difference between the lugs on the De Rosa and the Colnago, except for superior photography and lighting.

    In the words of GOB, "come on!":

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    #1670
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,064 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    I fail to see the difference between the lugs on the De Rosa and the Colnago, except for superior photography and lighting

    Yeah, I struggle also. However, the Neo Pro looks way better overall. Maybe it's the tube profiles, or maybe wheels and finishing kit is everything.

    edit: as for the CX-1, I think it needs beefy wheels to balance out the beefy frame. I saw that frameset in a shop and it didn't look as wondrous as the brochure shots, a bit plasticky.

    I like almost nothing, so my opinions count for nothing


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    #1671
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,064 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Got it! Lugged frames must have horizontal top tubes.

    The Colnago looks worse because it's compact. The Neo Pro is traditional.

    The Look is semi-compact, and just about gets away with it.


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    #1672
    el tel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭el tel


    Raam wrote: »
    I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as I quite like them.

    Suppose you ain't a fan of this either?

    Look-595-det.jpg


    Quite apart from the bike, that's an awful photo. They really should have put the chain on the outer chainring. The scrunched up rear mech looks crap and the flash manages to make one wheel look a different colour from the other.


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    #1673
    blorg
    Registered Users Posts: 15,989 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    I really don't see the appeal of carbon Colnagos or De Rosas at all. The Colnago Master X-Light is a nice bike, just overpriced.

    Looks, on the other hand, are fantastic.


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    #1674
    Raam
    Registered Users Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    blorg wrote: »
    I really don't see the appeal of carbon Colnagos or De Rosas at all.

    Is there something in the water around here today?


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    #1675
    bbosco
    Registered Users Posts: 289 ✭✭bbosco


    blorg wrote: »
    I really don't see the appeal of carbon Colnagos or De Rosas at all. The Colnago Master X-Light is a nice bike, just overpriced.

    Looks, on the other hand, are fantastic.


    Agreed. If I could have any De Rosa it would be a Neo Primato in Molteni orange. Then again I have a steel fetish....

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    Now thems some good-looking lugs.


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    #1676
    lukester
    Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    Raam wrote: »
    Is there something in the water around here today?

    There must be, I'd happily take either of those, although my current crush is

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    #1677
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    @RAAM.
    Lovely bike (the colnago). But I love them and in particular I adore a matt black finish.

    @BBosco I saw a review of that De Rosa Molteni - apparently heavy and flexy. Nice finish though.


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    #1678
    blorg
    Registered Users Posts: 15,989 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    ROK ON wrote: »
    @BBosco I saw a review of that De Rosa Molteni - apparently heavy and flexy. Nice finish though.
    It's steel. That's what steel does, heavy, flexy and looks great.


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    #1679
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,064 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    @lukester: Lovely. Needs Campag.


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    #1680
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    My new shoes first non black ones since 1993!!

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    #1681
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


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    My new ride. Arriving next week.
    I will use Fulcrum 5's for now, but put on a pair of Mavic Syriums (as Lumen would spell them) come the better weather.
    Cant wait. It is probably 5mm larger on the top tube (540mm) than I am used to, but I am (sincerely) hoping that improved flexibility (me) plus a larger head tube will make a difference.
    The reason I went slightly larger is that the small was too small, and on my Orbea (535mm) I get wheel rub off my shoes when cornering.


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