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Murph100

V. Nice Blorg, best of luck with it !

...( still reckon some Shamals would set it off a lil' better )

abcdggs

@blorg - Would you consider shortening the chain to get the wheel in the cut out a bit more?

jdt101

blorg wrote: »

My new fast audax bike.

@blorg, should those wheels look familiar to me?

Lumen

blorg wrote: »

On my new fast audax bike project I have the base bars far lower to get the aero bars where I want them

That's cool. I assume that "fast audax" means "solo audax"? Where will the Carradice bag attach? Or will you use the trailer...

blorg

abcdggs wrote: »

@blorg - Would you consider shortening the chain to get the wheel in the cut out a bit more?

I don't think I'd bother. I am skeptical as to just how much diffrence it would make but more to the point I have a bigger chainring (and three cogs for the back) and want the flexibility to swap my gearing around without needing a new chain.

jdt101 wrote: »

@blorg, should those wheels look familiar to me?

Rear is an On One track wheel and front is a WH-500 but not actually from your set.

Lumen wrote: »

That's cool. I assume that "fast audax" means "solo audax"? Where will the Carradice bag attach? Or will you use the trailer...

There wouldn't actually be any particular issue adding a saddlebag, I have one that just goes on the saddle, but I don't think they are particularly necessary for day rides. As regards solo, I will have to see what the handling is like, obviously would not use aero bars in a group but plenty of people ride bull horns fine, that position should be similar to being on the hoods only a bit lower as the bar is lower. The braking is pretty good, I am impressed with the TT lever. Depending on how things go I may consider another road variation with drop bars and front brake.

abcdggs

blorg wrote: »

I don't think I'd bother. I am skeptical as to just how much diffrence it would make but more to the point I have a bigger chainring (and three cogs for the back) and want the flexibility to swap my gearing around without needing a new chain.

Was wondering more in terms of aesthetics, not for aero reasons, i'm sure any aero differnce would be negligible. i presume you have a lockring hub rather than bolt on then?

Lumen

blorg wrote: »

As regards solo, I will have to see what the handling is like, obviously would not use aero bars in a group

I was also considering the fact that no-one will be able to keep up with you on that thing.

blorg

abcdggs wrote: »

Was wondering more in terms of aesthetics, not for aero reasons, i'm sure any aero differnce would be negligible. i presume you have a lockring hub rather than bolt on then?

I get the aesthetics but don't want to compromise flexibility in my gearing. I might stick the big chainring and my biggest cog on and if I could take a link out in that configuration I would be good. It's a fixed/fixed standard hub, I have a 16T on one side and use the Miche system on the other with 14 and 15T. 48 and 49T chainrings. In the picture it is 48-15.

abcdggs

blorg wrote: »

I use the Miche system on the other with 14 and 15T.

Like this?


Do sugino do a similar thing do you know?

blorg

abcdggs wrote: »

Like this?
...

Do sugino do a similar thing do you know?

Yes, like that, I put them on this bike as I will primarily be using it on the track and expect to be swapping sprockets frequently. AFAIK Miche are the only ones who do this sort of system. It removes the need for a chainwhip, you just need to remove the lockring to swap the sprocket. Standard thread, you can use it on any standard hub.

steinone

I have actually had problems with the Miche carriers, they can become worn down and have some play in them.
I had the same idea, easy changeability, great. A return and a lot of annoyance later I will never go back.

abcdggs

have you heard anything about the sugino version?

They look like they have more notches that are less sharp, would lead me to think they'd wear better

fixie

on the subject of different hubs can anyone tell me if bolt on hubs are aloud on the track?

RobFowl

fixie wrote: »

on the subject of different hubs can anyone tell me if bolt on hubs are aloud on the track?

They are, indeed they are the norm :cool:

CI rule Appendix AT2 Equipment
9. Bicycles used for track racing shall not be fitted with freewheels, quick release wheels, wingnuts, brakes
or similar accessories except by permission of the Track Commissaire.

abcdggs

RobFowl wrote: »

They are, indeed they are the norm :cool:

are you sure? surely if they were the norm on the track they would be more widely available

fixie

robfowl, im talking about front mtb disc brake hubs adapted to use on fixed gears. very very very very suprised if there the norm cause there impossible to get besides adapting your own. but spread the good news! there the best thing ever! good buy to lockrings............

RobFowl

fixie wrote: »

robfowl, im talking about front mtb disc brake hubs adapted to use on fixed gears. very very very very suprised if there the norm cause there impossible to get besides adapting your own. but spread the good news! there the best thing ever! good buy to lockrings............

Disc brakes and indeed all brakes are never allowed on the track, Sorry !

abcdggs

fixie wrote: »

robfowl, im talking about front mtb disc brake hubs adapted to use on fixed gears. very very very very suprised if there the norm cause there impossible to get besides adapting your own. but spread the good news! there the best thing ever! good buy to lockrings............

What's the word on your hub conversion? i need a new wheel as it is, i'm thinking bolt on is the best option

@robfowl, this is a bolt on hub


This is the usual track hub, with lockring

blorg

RobFowl wrote: »

Disc brakes and indeed all brakes are never allowed on the track, Sorry !

@Rob- he means something like this, the sprockets are attached by means of bolts rather than being screwed on to a standard threaded track hub. This one uses a proprietary pattern but you can also convert a disc front hub for use on the rear and attach a sprocket to the disc mounting bolts.

fixie

"What's the word on your hub conversion? i need a new wheel as it is, i'm thinking bolt on is the best option"
(still cant work out how to quote on this forum:mad:)
check out this http://www.dublinfgss.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=144 to see how the conversions going:mad:

go for a bolt on hub,either buy one of velosolo or convert one.maybe go for one off velosolo cause it might be easier in reguards to spacing,time!,guarentees and maybe even cost?

abcdggs

Just had a look at prices there, you're probably right.
Just a matter of being able to afford it now, will want to get some bling rims as well.

Ah yes, the quote is pretty confusing, the test area is pretty good to mess round with stuff

RobFowl

abcdggs

when i first heard talk of disc wheels for fixed gears, i got confused what with these

these

and these


Your confusion is understandable

RobFowl

All this hipster terminology is frazzling my geriatric brain.....

@fixie
As long as those hubs are secure and safe there should be no issue. The commisaires reserve the right to ban equipment they deem to be unsafe.
TBH that setup looks more secure that a locknut, just less easy to change and needing more clearance.

Do you see there being any advantage?

fixie

"hipster terminology"
you mean a mtb disc hub is frazzling your geriatric brain

"just less easy to change and needing more clearance.
Do you see there being any advantage? "
there way easier to change!!!!!!!!
read this for the resons there brilliant http://www.velosolo.co.uk/intro.html

Greenman

All I can say is I love trikes.:):):)

blorg

RobFowl wrote: »

As long as those hubs are secure and safe there should be no issue. The commisaires reserve the right to ban equipment they deem to be unsafe.
TBH that setup looks more secure that a locknut, just less easy to change and needing more clearance.

They are secure, they are also generally considered much easier to change, as all you need is a hex key rather than a lockring tool + chain whip (as I am sure you know this sometimes requires a bit of heft too.)

RobFowl

fixie wrote: »

"hipster terminology"
you mean a mtb disc hub is frazzling your geriatric brain

"just less easy to change and needing more clearance.
Do you see there being any advantage? "
there way easier to change!!!!!!!!
read this for the resons there brilliant http://www.velosolo.co.uk/intro.html

I meant any advantage on the track , sorry didn't make that clear...

PS Blorg kind of like messing about with chain whips and lockring tools (thats just me though !)

levitronix

Just id introduce myself to the boards and say hi

abcdggs

Very nice, you need to remove some of those spacers though