Van Nistelrooy and saha

DEmeant0r

Does anyone have the feeling after that game, that this partnership will win the league?

smiaras

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The Muppet

Originally posted by Demeant0r
Does anyone have the feeling after that game, that Man Utd will win the league again?

Haven't seen the highlights yet but I would be seriously concerned about the defence. Since Rio went they have conceded way too many goals . If they sort out the defence I would be quitely confident for the League.

smiaras

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Thanx 4 The Fish

Seems that uniteds defence of late has been more than a little shaky and they have taken more to the Real Madrid style. Who cares what we let in as long as we score bucket loads. If they continue along these lines then when they come across a lucky defenc, or a strong one then they are gonna be in trouble.

[DF]Lenny

In truth Man U back 5 have been poor the last few years(as shown in europe many times) but its very rare they'll have to deal with lunatics like big Dunc.They are still quite good at holding their line but lack a bit of physical presence at CB without rio.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Todays woes were not caused by big Dunc but rather little Wayne, he could have had a bagful today. They wil certainly need some beefing up at the back, I am surprised that nobody was bought to fill in at least until the end of the season.

Dr Bolouswki

Saha - 3 goals in two games, Van horse as dangerous as ever.... looks like a good partnership alright... the defence though is looking shaky - whats that - given away 6 goals in last 3 games against mid to lower table opposition... keep in mind Arsenal haven't lost a game yet this season and have a better goal difference...

A good partnership for sure, but I think the league will go to the wire...

Ronaldo7

Said it before he joined and ill say it again. Saha will be brilliant for man utd.

As for todays perfromance:

Van Nist and Saha: Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant...:cool:

elbow316

Van Nistelrooy is obviously one of THE top strikers in Europe but I'm not so sure about saha's quality. He'll score goals in that team because any half-decent forward would but doesn't seem to be anything particularly spcial.
The main man as far as United are concerned imo is Scholes, a little genius who ends up having the opposition watching him like a hawk allowing the strikers that bit of time.

cournioni

I wouldn't be too worried about United's defence just yet. Alright it has been shakey in recent games but its only a matter of sorting it out in training. Wes Brown is only back from a long term injury so it will take him time to settle back in. We still have a strong defence, its just a matter of sorting it out on the training ground.

And I'm more surprised than anyone at the level of criticism that Rio Ferdinand has been getting on this board. When he came to OT last year our defence was a mess, and by the end of that season Rio turned Uniteds defence from a mediocre defence to the best in the Premiership. I think its more jealousy than anything from rival supporters. I think he's played only one bad game this season altogether and that was against Stuttgart.

As for Ruud and Louis, they look like a great partnership already. I had my doubts about Saha before he signed. All of those doubts were erased today.

Dustaz

Without a doubt the best partnership in the league in the making.

Its a pity ferguson is getting better at picking strikers

PHB

Best defense in the prem, rofl

Silvestre makes United's defense imo, Rio comes second.
I used to always complain about Rio, but I guess without him Utd. are in a lot of trouble.

I guess Fergie has a lot of faith in Wes Brown to get back to his old self since he hasn't bought anyone

The Muppet

Originally posted by elbow316
Van Nistelrooy is obviously one of THE top strikers in Europe but I'm not so sure about saha's quality. He'll score goals in that team because any half-decent forward would but doesn't seem to be anything particularly spcial.

I have to admit i was sceptical about Saha being Man United quality before he signed but he is winning me around . His pace and composure on the his first goal and his first touch, control and shot for his second goal today is as good as anything I've seen. He has only played twice but his contributions so far IMO does indicate that he could be very special for Utd.

I agree Scholes is the main man who creates most of uniteds chances.

AthAnRi

Silvestre makes United's defense imo, Rio comes second.

Couldn't disagree more. Mikel is a class act but he needs to have a compitent player beside him before he blosoms. Rio doesn't care who is beside him he is just class. He has been given a lot of stick but he is obviously a great organiser. Since he has been suspended UTD have conceded 7 goals in 2.5 games.

As for Saha and van the man. Utd look good going forward again but I think its more because of their 4-4-2 formation and Schole back in midfield rathre than Saha introduction, although he has had a great start. Hopefully Ole will be back soon, maybe he can fill in at Centre Half.

kida

A lot of the problems on Saturday was Keane was the only defence minded midfielder - reckon Ferguson thought he could risk that against Everton. Against better teams Phil Neville or Butt would be playing.
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Xterminator

Do you not think that its a bit soon to be heralding the Rudd&Saha connection as the partnership that will win the premiership for United?

FFS they are off to a good start, thats all. United have conceded a boatload of goals in the last couple of games, and were very lucky to take 3 points on saturday, against a team thats on 5 points off the relagatin zone!

Jeez at least wait till youve tested them against the likes of Real Madrid, etc and them youcan see if they make the same knid of partnership as Cole and Yorke did!!!

X

cournioni

Originally posted by PHB
Best defense in the prem, rofl

How many goals did they let in for all of last season? Who had the best defensive record?

SheroN

newcastle have the best home defensive record in the league this season, just goes to show how misleading defensive records can be.

cournioni

I'm talking about last season.

The Muppet

Originally posted by Xterminator
Do you not think that its a bit soon to be heralding the Rudd&Saha connection as the partnership that will win the premiership for United?

Jeez at least wait till youve tested them against the likes of Real Madrid, etc and them youcan see if they make the same knid of partnership as Cole and Yorke did!!!

X

When did Real start playing In the premiership?;)

I see what your saying but you could have picked a better example defensively than Real.

Thanx 4 The Fish

I don't think I was talking about last season, nor were those people who were slating uniteds defence. There is damn all that can or could be done to LAST YEARS united defensive record, this year is the year that we are on about. If Saha keeps chipping in with the goals and RVN gets a couple aswell, they will still IMO have to beat Arsenal to win the league and that means defending against the joint best attack in the Prem and scoring against the best defense in the prem. (This season, not last)

BTW newcastle have the joint best home defence along with Arsenal, Chelsea and southampton. And Arsenal have the best defense on the road.

cournioni

Originally posted by Thanx 4 The Fish
I don't think I was talking about last season, nor were those people who were slating uniteds defence. There is damn all that can or could be done to LAST YEARS united defensive record, this year is the year that we are on about. If Saha keeps chipping in with the goals and RVN gets a couple aswell, they will still IMO have to beat Arsenal to win the league and that means defending against the joint best attack in the Prem and scoring against the best defense in the prem. (This season, not last)

BTW newcastle have the joint best home defence along with Arsenal, Chelsea and southampton. And Arsenal have the best defense on the road.

Then again this season isn't finished yet is it?

jank

i see that the nit picking has began in earnest!

cournioni

Originally posted by jank
i see that the nit picking has began in earnest!

:rolleyes:

zAbbo

Only seen the highlights of both games, so cant comment on the partnership in full, Will have to wait until they come across 2 quality Centre backs, eg Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal

jank

:rolleyes: = the most used smilie on boards.ie