Fulham vs Man Utd "SCORES!"

BKtje

I dunno, i have faith in Wes Brown in the long run. He was better agaisnt Fulham. A few good games will get his confidence up and after that it will be more plain sailing. We all know he is a very good defender when hes playing well.

Being realistic, bar some amazing turn around the Premiership is Arsenals. I can admit that and tbh they deserve it atm. I just hope Man u can get some run goign in the CL and FA cup. While the Fa cup is 3rd choice id still like to win it. Some silverware is better than nought. Still dont write em outta the Champions League tbh.

Ronaldo7

Na, its Arsenals to give away. Thats all there is to it. I aint writing utd off or anything but its tough for them to win anything when they have such a ****e back four at the moment. This summer we need 2 top top centre backs. We really do.

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by Ronaldo7
This summer we need 2 top top centre backs. We really do.

I disagree. Man Utd should sign 1 flexible defender who can deputise in the centre of defence when necessary, and play as a fullback. From the looks of it this season, the positions of LB and RB is where they can improve most in defence. They've got 3/4 CBs as it is, the problem is that with the loss of 1 or 2 of them the others have played poorly. When Silvestre & Rio were playing they were very solid.

Brian O'Leary

Lads.Look,Alex's main aim is to build a squad for the future .Now,look at this for a squad for the future.

Howard
Brown Rio Silvestre O'Shea
Fletcher Miller Kleberson Ronaldo
RVN Saha




Subs:Carrol
Djemba
Forlan
Bellion
Richardson
And not to mention that Chinese guy!!So if you compare this team to arsenals team of the future which is better?

jank

So if you compare this team to arsenals team of the future which is better?

eh arsenal!?

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by Brian O'Leary
Lads.Look,Alex's main aim is to build a squad for the future .Now,look at this for a squad for the future.

Howard
Brown Rio Silvestre O'Shea
Fletcher Miller Kleberson Ronaldo
RVN Saha




Subs:Carrol
Djemba
Forlan
Bellion
Richardson
And not to mention that Chinese guy!!So if you compare this team to arsenals team of the future which is better?

I don't understand why Ferguson can't gradually build a team for the future while integrating it with the current side. People keep talking like re-building a team all at once is normal... it isn't.

And O'Leary, when exactly is "the future"? 3 years? 6 years? Not everyone in your wonderful lineup there is exactly a spring chicken.

Incidently the Arsenal players i'd consider 'young' and possibly ones for the future are: Cole, Clichy, Toure, Reyes, Aliadiere, Smith, Bentley, Fabregas, Senderos, Pennant, Stack, Taylor, Hoyte, Owuse-Abeyie. If the team you listed above consists of what you consider 'young' players are, then include Ljungberg, Lauren, Edu, Henry, Gilberto. Unfortunately Vieira fails to qualify for your definition by about 2 weeks!

PHB

Every team is always building for the future, but the now is slighlty more important

I don't see how Chelsea has any more chance than United of catching Arsenal, both teams are on indentical points and both need a miracle

Porto game is gona be tough, I can see it being 2-1 and going to penos. Once Porto is over, and Keano shouldn't be banned for more than 1 match, with Slyvestre and Neville availible , I can see united doing fairly well.

It'd be a

Neville - Neville - Sylvestre - O Shea

Which isn't great or terrible, then United will have keano attacking and be able to score as many goals as possible

Brian O'Leary

OK but United aren't goin to stop buying now.They are also trying to buy Arjen Robben,class player.And what about Utd's under 19 squad who won the under 19 championship last year and who Ferguson believes will be beter than the last home grown players ie Scholes,Giggs etc.And I believe him.We are goin to be class!!!

Villain

Originally posted by Brian O'Leary
OK but United aren't goin to stop buying now.They are also trying to buy Arjen Robben,class player.And what about Utd's under 19 squad who won the under 19 championship last year and who Ferguson believes will be beter than the last home grown players ie Scholes,Giggs etc.And I believe him.We are goin to be class!!!

No harm in Dreams!;)

TwoShedsJackson

Originally posted by Brian O'Leary
Lads.Look,Alex's main aim is to build a squad for the future .Now,look at this for a squad for the future.

Howard
Brown Rio Silvestre O'Shea
Fletcher Miller Kleberson Ronaldo
RVN Saha




Subs:Carrol
Djemba
Forlan
Bellion
Richardson
And not to mention that Chinese guy!!So if you compare this team to arsenals team of the future which is better?

They'll be winning fuck all with that team. Brown, Fletcher, Kleberson, Miller - not good enough for first team at United if they want to win consistently. As for the subs, none of them are good enough.

The Muppet

Originally posted by TwoShedsJackson
They'll be winning fuck all with that team. Brown, Fletcher, Kleberson, Miller - not good enough for first team at United if they want to win consistently. As for the subs, none of them are good enough.

I believe all four could become first team regulars. Brown was excellent before his injury and he obviously had ability so hopefully his for will improve in time. Fletcher is highly rated at united as a central midfielder he is young and in time will be a first team regular. Klebeson is holding his international place in the Brazilian side and I expect he will make United first team next season . Miller Hasn't arrived yet but he was very impressive with Celtic this year and i have no doubt he has a successful career ahead of him.

Villain

Originally posted by Brian O'Leary
[BThey are also trying to buy Arjen Robben,class player.[/B]

Looks like Chelsea have got there before yea!
http://www.chelseafc.com/article.asp?id=188828

smemon

Originally posted by TwoShedsJackson
They'll be winning fuck all with that team. Brown, Fletcher, Kleberson, Miller - not good enough for first team at United if they want to win consistently. As for the subs, none of them are good enough.

i disagree with kleberson and certainly miller. Brown can be average at times but is a decent defender when at his best. fletcher i agree, i have no time for, waste of space if you ask me, far too flimsy and lightweight. he's had more than enough games to tell me he's not a utd player. rarely impressess me and needs to be loaned out asap to develope, far too raw.

kleberson comes from a very different style of football and will need time to settle, no doubt he's talent though as we've seen with brazil in the wc.

Miller looks a class act, no way he can be called average. talk about an all round midfielder, he is it. i'd put him ahead of butt, djemba, phil neville and kleberson at the minute. every game he performs.

smiaras

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James R

Not to mention the £8.5 million "bargain" Gio Van Bronkhorst

Pacifico

TBH Henry vieira berkamp cancel them all out:D

Pepe LeFrits

oi, Franny is a legend, he... uh.... ran around lots at OT in the cup last season, and uh... did i mention he ran lots?

Pennant doesn't warrant a place on the all-time great flops list just yet, he might still have a part to play.

James R

Originally posted by kaids

Pennant doesn't warrant a place on the all-time great flops list just yet, he might still have a part to play.

I think you just summed up why Man U fans think Arsenal fans talk a load of crap. I'm only pointing this out by the way I'm not having a go but it fascinates me how an Arsenal fan can say something like that when Pennant has been at the club for years, yet write off players like Djemba Djemba, Ronaldo and Kleberson who have been at the club 6 months and don't even speak the bloody language yet.

Just my two cents

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by James R
I think you just summed up why Man U fans think Arsenal fans talk a load of crap. I'm only pointing this out by the way I'm not having a go but it fascinates me how an Arsenal fan can say something like that when Pennant has been at the club for years, yet write off players like Djemba Djemba, Ronaldo and Kleberson who have been at the club 6 months and don't even speak the bloody language yet.

Just my two cents

When did I write off Djemba Djemba, Ronaldo and Kleberson? Ronaldo looks he'll develop into a very very good player (if he lays off the stepovers ), haven't seen enough of Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson.

Generalisations are bad, mmkay.

Pacifico

TBH Ronaldo was outstanding against fulham. Despite the result.

Michelangelo

Oh my God, would you look through this thread? The managers saying who should be loaned out "ASAP". LOL don't make me laugh.

One thing I really can not grasp, is why there are so many people going on about Kleberson/Ronaldo/Djemba/Bellion and EVEN Miller who is not even in a red shirt yet and how they have no future. I mean, whats the story? Enough with the bull!

I think the only player I have not heard being criticised is Tim Howard.