Galaxy class a replacement for the Oberth class ??

Woden

nah the original enterprise was a constitution class star ship iirc, however there was u.s.s constellation that was a constitution class ship again iirc and that is confusing

User45701

What does IIRC mean?

It is confusing, yes i think the ambasador was a command and control.

Where do u draw the line between Galaxy and solverign, I think sovy is a dreadnought and Galaxy is command and control.

Defiant is offically a escort ship.

Woden

iirc = if i recall correctly which i use when i think i'm right but am not sure about something and someone could come back and whip my ass

i'm not up on ship classification if you know what i mean like, escort, warship etc. tbh

NeoSlicerZ

Aye Soverign is a Dreadnought, Galaxy and Ambassador are C&C but i'm put off about the Defiant class being classed as an Escort class. However the first generation Defiant class aren't that good tbh. 2nd Generation Defiant rock, the USS Monitor invaded Unimatrix Zero and gave the Borg a right spanking.

bizmark

2nd Generation Defiant rock, the USS Monitor invaded Unimatrix Zero and gave the Borg a right spanking

they dont count anything on books are non cannon and never excited in the "star trek univerise"

User45701

The defiant is a escort ship. 100% sure about it.

That is its offical designation because they dont want to have federation ship names like
war bird
battle ship
heavy cruiser

bizmark

Sigh ill have to sort you minor trek fans out again

sovy = Battleship (Command and control for a fleet if needed)
Galaxy = Heavy cruiser (Command and control for a fleet if needed)
Stargazer = Cruiser
Ambasadore = Heavy cruiser (Command and control for a fleet if needed)
Defiant = Destroyer
Akira = cruiser
Constitution class = Heavy cruiser/battleship

And in order of building (i think)

Constitution class
Stargazer
Ambasadore class
Galaxy class

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\
Akira class - They would all be designed around the same time
Defiant class

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/
Sovy class

Im not going through the whole fed fleet class by class btw :eek:

NeoSlicerZ

but i like the books

Woden

so do i, what book is this u.s.s monitor in i should have read it.

bizmark i think the defiant was built before the akira, as it was seen before any akira class starships?

bizmark

Might be might not be theres no way to know really

Akira looks like a galaxy though defaint looks very different design wise so i think the akira came first ......Akira was more than likely designed with or just after the galaxy/nebby

Woden

yes but i think thats more coz the akira is more conventional design more so then anything else as the defiant was definetley something new for the fed.

bizmark

conventional :dunno:

15 torp tubes 3 type 10 phasers (points to galaxy era ships btw) hanger bay
and a very very different design to anything before it other that the NX

Woden

my arse that ship has 15 torpedo tubes *cough* non-canon* cough and the design is not so different so it is a still a convential fed. design with a kinda saucer section and rear engineering section

bizmark

Originally posted by Dataisgod
my arse that ship has 15 torpedo tubes *cough* non-canon* cough and the design is not so different so it is a still a convential fed. design with a kinda saucer section and rear engineering section

The guy that designed it said it has 15 1 shot tubes = 15 torps in a single launch ......Enterprise -D 2 exposed multy launcher tubes = 20 a second or something

Its not that unreal tbh

Also the ship is all contained in the saucer the back end is only for the torp launchers and a place to stick the warp naccels me thinks

Capt'n Midnight

Originally posted by bizmark
...until the war came along when around 100 galaxy class ships turn up god knows where they where keeping them.....IT MAKES NO SENCE DAMN IT!.

In the Voyager universe (those renegades wern't real star fleet - helping the Borg to wipe out a sentient race, when everyone knows there is only one consiousness in the Borg ) they would have simply have reversed the flux polarity in one of the Jefferson conduits so antiphase tachyons would have controlled the replicator matrix and thus have each starship would be able to replicate it's self in jig time. (count them carefully and you'll notice there were actually 89 of them (Fabrication by Fibonacci)) In the other series they would have used a thing called a "script" instead

User45701

Originally posted by bizmark
Defiant = Destroyer

Defiant is definatley a escort ship, i am certan it was in those fact files and mentioned in some star trek games aswell. It might but im not certan have been mentioned in a episode aswell...

bizmark

Destroy = escort
Escort = destroyer

Same thing different navy names

Woden

sounds like they have to different functions though, i would guess here and it is only a guess, that the escort ship escorts things, while the destroyer would kinda like destroy things or something.

anyone agree with me on this?

bizmark

your some num nut

Destroyers/cruisers ARE escorts in general
heavy cruisers battleships etc are captial ships

NeoSlicerZ

The U.S.S Monitor appeared in William Shatner's "The Return"

Capt'n Midnight

Originally posted by bizmark
Destroy = escort
Escort = destroyer

Same thing different navy names

Destroyers were originally meant to destroy Torpedo boats (they evolved into MTB's Eboats PT boats - missile boats etc.) only during WWI did they start to escort things. And escorts were corvettes , frigates etc.

Anyway point is that what the US navy have called a destroyer for a couple of decades is the size of a WWII cruiser - so sizes and classes change all the time.

NeoSlicerZ

The Defiant class is damn small, crew of 80 i believe.

Woden

aye with a questionable length i believe different lengths quoted from different sources

User45701

That is only because the orginal defiant from DS9 was a prototype. Had some problems if i remember that good ol obrian solved when he was drunk 1 night.

If the defiant was a prototype im sure they changed just a few things when they went into mass production.

Remember when the mirror univerce teran rebels copied the defiant EXEATLY they had the same problems that DS9 had when they first got it.

EDIT: I dont unserstand, on blueprints isent the defiant suposed to have a phaser cannon on the top of the ship at the centre (strangly enough on top of the bridge...
Anyway It is a handy weapon because when the defiant makes a run on a enemy ship and fires pulse cannons and quantom torps then it isis flying under a the ship there are a few seconds before it comes out the other side and fires aft weapons, why dont they use the phaser cannon?
They used it when battleing Regent Work in the Mirror univerce and they defiant was copied EXEATLY

bizmark

The defiant has

4 pluse cannons (cannon)
1 phaser type 10 on the top (cannon)
2 quntum launchers (cannon)
1 phaser type 10 in the nose (kinda cannon)

As fair as i know anyways

its ment to be either 70 -100-170 meters long.........take your pick 120 or so seems best for a war ship

Praetorian

Runabout BOPing to a defiant galaxy with some warBIRD named aKIRA

The Death Star would clearly pwn all these ships put together. End of discussion.

stormkeeper

Originally posted by NeoSlicerZ
Aye Soverign is a Dreadnought, Galaxy and Ambassador are C&C but i'm put off about the Defiant class being classed as an Escort class.

Escort class is the official ship type for the Defiant, when in actual fact it's some sort of battle ship, or something... Can't recall, so long ago since I saw that info.

User45701

thats what i said.

stormkeeper

Ah right... Well, at least you have someone to back you up?