Clicksilver just died...

Ba$tard

I am still unable to connect to IOL BB since Thursday

jonski

I'm still connected today since about 5:00 , no disconnections , maybe I'm late with this post and ye are back up and running now ?

Ba$tard

Nope, still I have the problem.....no such luck for me I'm afraid....

I have ran tests via my router, like the line quality, the ATM loopback test but the PP or PPoE test fails, PPoE server not found...also with the router I got from IOL aswell.

jonski

I may be connected , but it ain't much use

Ping statistics for 195.218.126.178:

Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 48, Lost = 2 (4% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 77ms, Maximum = 484ms, Average = 179ms


Thats my 3rd hop .

The least UTV could do is put something decent on the TV.

Merik

I've been back up on ClickSilver since about 19.45, thank god :-)

Hope you get back on soon with IOL.

OfflerCrocGod

I was messing when I said that it was the router, sorry I should have put a smiley there:D, well I did a traceroute:

Tracing route to boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

over a maximum of 30 hops:


1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1
2 15 ms 16 ms 31 ms lo3.bas501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.175]
3 15 ms 16 ms 31 ms vlan501.rt502.cwt.esat.net [193.95.137.125]
4 15 ms 16 ms 31 ms vlan52.rt001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.145]
5 16 ms 16 ms 31 ms ge0-0.core002.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.18]
6 266 ms 281 ms 250 ms pos2-0.br001.inex.esat.net [193.95.131.6]
7 16 ms 31 ms 31 ms rt001inx.netsource.ie [193.1.208.199]
8 15 ms 32 ms 31 ms suez.hosting365.ie [212.17.63.4]
9 16 ms 31 ms 31 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
10 15 ms 32 ms 15 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]


Trace complete.

ge0-0.core002.cwt.esat.net is ALWAYS that high, so if anyone has high pings to boards.ie post up your tracert, see what its like.

Xcellor

Here is my tracert

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 30 ms 25 ms 27 ms lo3.bas501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.175]
3 235 ms 58 ms 34 ms vlan501.rt502.cwt.esat.net [193.95.137.125]
4 29 ms 26 ms 31 ms vlan54.rt002.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.130.161]
5 26 ms 25 ms 32 ms ge0-0.core002.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.18]
6 233 ms 255 ms 235 ms pos2-0.br001.inex.esat.net [193.95.131.6]
7 26 ms 29 ms 29 ms rt001inx.netsource.ie [193.1.208.199]
8 33 ms 31 ms 31 ms suez.hosting365.ie [212.17.63.4]
9 32 ms 33 ms 33 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
10 33 ms 33 ms 30 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.

I guess living near dublin affects your ping quite a bit

x

MarkR

Urgh...

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 418 ms 389 ms 368 ms 195.218.116.25
2 453 ms 446 ms 452 ms utv-dub-fastethernet0-0.116.218.195.in-addr.arpa
[195.218.116.1]
3 515 ms 483 ms 483 ms 195.218.126.178
4 62 ms 62 ms 62 ms 195.218.112.195
5 62 ms 93 ms 77 ms pos0-1.cnr-1.r18.telh.as5388.net [195.92.55.134]

6 62 ms 156 ms 186 ms 195.50.116.121
7 311 ms 311 ms 296 ms so-1-3-0.gar2.london1.level3.net [212.113.3.29]

8 390 ms 389 ms 421 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo1.london1.level3.net [212.187.131.
39]
9 109 ms 78 ms 124 ms 80.253.124.21
10 452 ms 421 ms * sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
11 421 ms * 624 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.

That's clicksilver in shannon

Mark

Xcellor

That UTV ping is bloody awful. And the route it takes.... Does it goto London and then back??? Or am I reading it wrong.. I hope so...

X

andrew163

MarkR, thats bad even for UTV...

i normally get 63ms to boards.ie, and yes, it does always go through london for some reason...

I'm in blanchardstown btw, although i doubt Shannon is far enough away to add 300ms to your pings

---

1 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms 195.218.116.25
2 31 ms 31 ms 47 ms UTV-DUB-fastethernet0-0.116.218.195.in-addr.arpa
[195.218.116.1]
3 31 ms 47 ms 47 ms 195.218.126.178
4 62 ms 47 ms 47 ms 195.218.112.195
5 47 ms 62 ms 47 ms pos0-1.cnr-1.r18.telh.as5388.net [195.92.55.134]

6 63 ms 62 ms 47 ms 195.50.116.121
7 47 ms 47 ms * so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]

8 31 ms 62 ms 47 ms ge-9-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.1
47]
9 62 ms 78 ms 63 ms 80.253.124.22
10 63 ms 78 ms 78 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
11 62 ms 78 ms 79 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

---

OfflerCrocGod

Xcellor you are connected to the same gateway as I am....it's in Dublin you are in Longford(??) no wonder you are getting such bad pings it's the first hop which takes the longest, IOL have no gateway in wherever you live. Yep it seems as if UTV need to go via London to get to boards, mad.

Squall

tracert www.boards.ie

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 42 ms 49 ms 39 ms 195.218.116.25
2 39 ms 49 ms 39 ms UTV-DUB-fastethernet0-0.116.218.195.in-addr.arpa
[195.218.116.1]
3 39 ms 49 ms 49 ms 195.218.126.178
4 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms 195.218.112.195
5 49 ms 69 ms 69 ms pos0-1.cnr-1.r18.telh.as5388.net [195.92.55.134]

6 69 ms 59 ms 59 ms 195.50.116.121
7 67 ms 59 ms 59 ms so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]

8 59 ms 59 ms 69 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.
39]
9 79 ms 79 ms 69 ms 80.253.124.21
10 79 ms 79 ms 69 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
11 79 ms 69 ms 69 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.

Trace from Cork. Not great really, not at all.

Mutant_Fruit

looks like IBB go tyhrough london too...

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 14 ms 6 ms 20 ms tallaght-vl-vlan-3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.38.
65]
2 14 ms 6 ms 14 ms 3rock-et-2-4.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.149]
3 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms rte-et-2-7.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.182]
4 8 ms 6 ms 25 ms ix-et-1-1.irishbroadband.ie [195.26.12.61]
5 267 ms 20 ms 6 ms ibis-gw-fe-0-1-3-0.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.
185]
6 31 ms 28 ms 28 ms lvl3gw.thn.packetexchange.net [212.187.197.193]

7 35 ms 35 ms 31 ms so-1-2-0.gar1.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.114]

8 62 ms 158 ms 77 ms ge-10-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.
7]
9 30 ms 25 ms 28 ms suez.hosting365.ie [212.17.63.4]
10 27 ms 277 ms 47 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
11 32 ms 31 ms 68 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.

edit: could someone explain the 3 columns of numbers? (the millisecond ones)

DMT

Clicksilver 5 minutes ago:

tracert [url]www.boards.ie[/url]

Tracing route to [url]www.boards.ie[/url] [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    49 ms    49 ms    49 ms  195.218.116.25
  2    50 ms    49 ms    49 ms  UTV-DUB-fastethernet0-0.116.218.195.in-addr.arpa [195.218.116.1]
  3    50 ms    59 ms    49 ms  195.218.126.178
  4    60 ms    49 ms    69 ms  195.218.112.195
  5    60 ms    59 ms    69 ms  pos0-1.cnr-1.r18.telh.as5388.net [195.92.55.134]
  6    60 ms    59 ms    69 ms  195.50.116.121
  7    70 ms    69 ms     *     so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]
  8    59 ms    59 ms    59 ms  ge-11-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.39]
  9   100 ms    89 ms    79 ms  80.253.124.22
 10   110 ms    99 ms    99 ms  sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
 11    69 ms    59 ms    59 ms  boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.

tracert [url]www.jolt.co.uk[/url]

Tracing route to clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    43 ms    49 ms    99 ms  195.218.116.25
  2   260 ms     *       50 ms  UTV-DUB-fastethernet0-0.116.218.195.in-addr.arpa [195.218.116.1]
  3    61 ms    58 ms    59 ms  195.218.126.178
  4    50 ms    49 ms    49 ms  195.218.112.195
  5    60 ms    69 ms     *     pos0-1.cnr-1.r18.telh.as5388.net [195.92.55.134]
  6    80 ms    69 ms    59 ms  pos0-0.ber-1.r18.telc.as5388.net [195.92.55.154]
  7    80 ms    79 ms    59 ms  lon1-9.nildram.net [195.66.224.59]
  8    60 ms    69 ms    69 ms  jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
  9    59 ms    69 ms    49 ms  clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]

Trace complete.

OfflerCrocGod

It's like a Ping but you are pinging one host at a time(using TTL) on the route to your destination you do this three times so it pings the first route three times they are the first three results:

1 14 ms 6 ms 20 ms tallaght-vl-vlan-3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.38.65]

The first time it pinged it took 14ms the second 6ms and this was pinging the first hop on your route to boards.ie which is 62.231.38.65(your Gateway). It then pings every other hop one after another until it reaches boards.ie.

MarkR

Thought i'd try again...

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 35 ms 35 ms 38 ms 195.218.116.25
2 35 ms 38 ms 35 ms UTV-DUB-fastethernet0-0.116.218.195.in-addr.arpa
[195.218.116.1]
3 40 ms 36 ms 36 ms 195.218.126.178
4 41 ms 39 ms 39 ms 195.218.112.195
5 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms pos0-1.cnr-1.r18.telh.as5388.net [195.92.55.134]

6 81 ms 53 ms 50 ms 195.50.116.121
7 49 ms 47 ms 59 ms so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]

8 60 ms 54 ms 58 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.
39]
9 76 ms 65 ms 70 ms 80.253.124.22
10 66 ms 87 ms 69 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
11 68 ms 62 ms 66 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

MrPinK

Originally posted by Mutant_Fruit
edit: could someone explain the 3 columns of numbers? (the millisecond ones)

These are the times it took to get to each host on the route. It's done 3 times to give you an average. In theory, the times increment for each host as you further along the route, as the packets have further to travel, and you can see how long it takes to get to each stage. However, most routers are configured to give priority to real packets that need routing, and will only respond to the ping requests when they're not busy. So if a time is lower than the time for the previous host, then you know that the previous one was due to the request being held up and is not accurate.

jonski

Originally posted by OfflerCrocGod
While we are on about pings to Boards.ie:

UTV Clicksilver , from roches st. exchange in limerick ,
Watch out for the 3rd hop , its a killer ,
Do you think its a Limerick thing , and some one is stealing my pkts




C:\>tracert www.boards.ie

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 58 ms 62 ms 77 ms 195.218.116.25
2 46 ms 62 ms 62 ms UTV-DUB-fastethernet0-0.116.218.195.in-addr.arpa
[195.218.116.1]
3 109 ms 93 ms 124 ms 195.218.126.178
4 109 ms 109 ms 93 ms 195.218.112.195
5 93 ms 93 ms 77 ms pos0-1.cnr-1.r18.telh.as5388.net [195.92.55.134]

6 77 ms 77 ms 93 ms 195.50.116.121
7 77 ms 77 ms 62 ms so-1-2-0.gar1.london1.level3.net [212.113.0.114]

8 93 ms 103 ms 93 ms ge-10-0.ipcolo1.london1.level3.net [212.187.131.
7]
9 93 ms 156 ms 93 ms 80.253.124.21
10 124 ms 109 ms 93 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
11 93 ms 93 ms 77 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.

C:\>


John

OfflerCrocGod

Who cares about your third hop man look at your first!,

1 58 ms 62 ms 77 ms 195.218.116.25

Thats madness:eek: the best is 58ms?! I'm pinging boards at less then half that - and your packet has still to reach the first hop; it has to be the fact that you are in Limerick and not in Dublin, its possible your gateway is in Dublin.

DMT

The 3rd, 4th and 5th hops are erroneous as subsequent hops are quicker...

Gonzo

those pings are mental, your first hop shouldnt be much more than 1ms.

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms 83-70-64-1.bas2.srl.dublin.eircom.net [83.70.64.
1]
3 24 ms 24 ms 22 ms ge0-1.edge1.srl.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.155.6
5]
4 24 ms 25 ms 27 ms atm4-0-39.peering1.inex.dublin.eircom.net [159.1
34.191.126]
5 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms rt001inx.netsource.ie [193.1.208.199]
6 26 ms 27 ms 24 ms suez.hosting365.ie [212.17.63.4]
7 28 ms 29 ms 27 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]

jonski

Originally posted by DMT
The 3rd, 4th and 5th hops are erroneous as subsequent hops are quicker...

The 3rd and 4th are the ones that usually give me the most trouble , I run these tests alot so you can trust me on this

jonski

Originally posted by Gonzo
those pings are mental, your first hop shouldnt be much more than 1ms.

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254


My understanding of this is that your first hop is to your router , I don't have a router .

John.

DMT

Originally posted by jonski
The 3rd and 4th are the ones that usually give me the most trouble , I run these tests alot so you can trust me on this

It just means that those routers are not prioritising returning ICMP messages, although it could be an indication that those routers are running at full capacity....

jonski

Originally posted by DMT
It just means that those routers are not prioritising returning ICMP messages, although it could be an indication that those routers are running at full capacity....

Tell me more , tell me more ,

come on what am I paying you for...out with it !


oh yeah , and dumb it down

John.

MrPinK

It's not possible for host 5 to be reached faster than hosts 3 and 4. It has to go through them to get to 5 after all. The reason it appears that way in your tracerts is because of the way the routers are configured. Their primary function is to route peoples traffic. When a router recieves a ping request, it will only respond once it has nothing else to do. If there are other packets waiting to be routed, it will take care of those first.

Stephen

I got an email from UTV yesterday saying they have been notified of dsl engineering works between 1730 and 1830 yesterday. Anyone notice if it fixed anything? I won't be home to see for myself for a couple of days (damn exams).

dub45

I think it would take more than an hour to fix all that's wrong!

Be nice if they emailed customers to apologise for Friday's and the weekends debacle but then again we are only customers. I know that they were not at fault for the breakdown but we are paying them to supply us. Cannot imagine any other industry be so blase towards their customers.

Aepos

I couldn't agree more. Sent them an email last night and suggested that they look at these forums, fori or whatever, so that they would get some idea of the feeling about the poor service of late. Didn't get a reply yet!!!

Oh well it can only get better...maybee.

stormkeeper

Sorry to bring this up, but I thought I'd post up my tracert, this is from Kildare.

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 42 ms 41 ms 43 ms 195.218.116.25
2 47 ms 45 ms 45 ms UTV-DUB-fastethernet0-0.116.218.195.in-addr.arpa
[195.218.116.1]
3 41 ms 47 ms 43 ms 195.218.126.178
4 46 ms 60 ms 42 ms 195.218.112.195
5 62 ms 58 ms * pos0-1.cnr-1.r18.telh.as5388.net [195.92.55.134]

6 59 ms 61 ms 55 ms 195.50.116.121
7 122 ms 60 ms 59 ms so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]

8 61 ms 85 ms 67 ms ge-9-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.1
47]
9 71 ms 68 ms 71 ms 80.253.124.21
10 94 ms 78 ms 78 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
11 80 ms 81 ms 73 ms www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.