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Electronic Voting

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    #32
    arcadegame2004
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭arcadegame2004


    Germany and the Netherlands have used this system for 15 years with no hiccups.


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    #33
    ShaneHogan
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    Originally posted by arcadegame2004
    Germany and the Netherlands have used this system for 15 years with no hiccups.

    Really? How did the manage the amazing feat of using a system which runs on MS Access 97 in 1989 (15 years ago)? The details that I saw of the system used in Germany included an 'abstain' button which doesn't exist on the Irish system. The count rules in Germany & Netherlands are much simpler than the Irish PR-STV system.

    So they haven't used 'this system' - they have used similar systems based on similar Nedap voting machines. And of course, the absence of a paper audit trail means that they will never know if there have been any hiccups or not.


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    #34
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,414 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by Tuars
    I read that the system cannot cope with the three different ballots (local, European and referendum). If you are not entitled to vote in all three then the machine has to be switched off and on again to get your vote recorded.
    Actually some people will have 4 votes in June, town/borough council, county council, European and referendum.
    Originally posted by arcadegame2004
    Germany and the Netherlands have used this system for 15 years with no hiccups.
    Actually no. In Germany, it has only been used for a few years in Cologne and has been trialled in Dusseldorf. Nowhere else.


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    #35
    star gazer
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    originally posted by arcadegame2004
    Germany and the Netherlands have used this system for 15 years with no hiccups.
    And all along we are being told that we should be modernising our voting system, not put in computers that are 15 years old (20 in holland). The system as has been said is diffierent for the Irish version. Powervote are on board and while Nedap has a long history, powervotes history of providing components for electronic voting seems less than clear.
    A coherent argument from the government's side would help to let people know where they stand.


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