st anne's rezoning

chewy

posted this on indymedia, http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=64007



but moved here just to have a dicussion on it....

in particularily wanna know in what ways people have been sucessful before in opposing things like this....?

Draupnir

This rezoning idea is just disgraceful imo, god damn Bertie Ahern, the chap is a gangster bottom line.

eoin@host.ie

Originally posted by chewy
posted this on indymedia, http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=64007



but moved here just to have a dicussion on it....

in particularily wanna know in what ways people have been sucessful before in opposing things like this....?

The most successful campaigns I've seen have centred around intensive lobbying of local elected representatives(but all councillors that might vote on the issue should be lobbied).

Eoin

chewy

right fair enough but sorta got the impression that these days the un-elected county manager made the decision....

can you and the councillors still put pressure on him

they tried with the trees and oconnell street afaik and it didn't work

eoin@host.ie

Originally posted by chewy
right fair enough but sorta got the impression that these days the un-elected county manager made the decision....

can you and the councillors still put pressure on him

they tried with the trees and oconnell street afaik and it didn't work

I don't know the exact facts about the St. Anne's issue(and it's out of my geographical area) so I can't comment meaningfully on it.

However I agree with your first assertion, the manager has got most of the power and is rapidly getting any remaining powers(for example he/she now has the power to set the bin charges which was formerly the reserve of the councillors). The erosion of councillor's powers is one of the reasons I am not standing at the next elections to be honest.

There are a couple in your question:

1. Rezoning etc: This is a reserved function typically(ie one the councillors can only exercise) except if the manager decides it is a material contravention of the Development Plan(which again has to be brought before the member's). What often happens though is that councillors are presented with impossible decisions(ie if you don't do this the way we are proposing it to you there are possible legal remifications for you/for the council).

2. O'Connell Street: Again it's not my bailewick but what often happens is that detailed plans for projects such as this are brought before councillors as an item at a 2 hours meeting in which there are possibly 15 to 20 other items on the agenda. Following a brief presnetation it is agreed to put it out to public consultation and a report on this is done. However what often happens is that the reality of the fine detail of such a plan only becomes obvious when the project starts.

Eoin

chewy

all councillors voted against the proposal on 5th april

a rare event im told....

county manger continues to ignore commensense

Keeks

Originally posted by chewy
county manger continues to ignore commensense

That is usually because they don't think of themselves as common....(and that was not said as a joke)