The sickening hypocrisy of Sinn Féin.

Mighty_Mouse

MM your (I presume youthful) naivety is hilarious

A little pretentious and condescending even for you Mike.
(not the first time I''ve seen this type of answer from you. Be careful though, implying yourself to be an "old fart" could indicate senility!)

Personally I would't think Gerry has been bought. It wouldn't make sense to be the leader of SF if he was only motivated by money. Certainly I would'nt do the job for any money. Its an irrelevant argument though. On the scale of things I don't think SF is corrupt, you do. What more can we say.

Lets hope in 10 years time when you've grown even older and SF are one of the largest parties in the south time will have proved the points argued above.

The Brigadier

If Sinn Fein are ever elected into Government, I and many others will be on the first flight out of Ireland.

Mighty_Mouse

c ya:D

ReefBreak

Originally posted by Mighty_Mouse
c ya:D

IF Sinn Féin were in government, Ireland would soon be turned into a socialist backwater - nobody will have any work or money to afford the flights out the country, and even if they did have a job, they still couldn't afford the flights because all the airlines would be nationalised and protected.

The Brigadier

I am sure you would love to be in a country run by the likes of Sinn Fein. It'll be your loss.

Rest assured if that day comes Ireland will be worse off for it

Mighty_Mouse

Straight away I presuming that you haven't been caught on the "wrong" side of our famous celtic tiger. The gap between the rich and poor in Ireland has never been larger.
No point in getting into arguments about why an internally focused economic development strategy would be better for the country.

ReefBreak

Originally posted by Mighty_Mouse
Straight away I presuming that you haven't been caught on the "wrong" side of our famous celtic tiger. The gap between the rich and poor in Ireland has never been larger.
No point in getting into arguments about why an internally focused economic development strategy would be better for the country.

There has never been lower unemployemnt, there has never been more prosperity and wealth, and despite what the economic morons in Sinn Féin would try and tell you, this economic wealth has affected more people than any amount of socialist policies in 70 years previous. The Gap Between the Rich and Poor argument has been trotted out by the Shinners at numerous occasions but it's meaningless, simply because we have a lot more super-rich people in the country.

Sinn Féin policies would result in everyone being poor. A modern day East Germany.

ReefBreak

Originally posted by Mighty_Mouse
No point in getting into arguments about why an internally focused economic development strategy would be better for the country.

No, please, I'd love if you started getting into this argument. An economics argument against a Shinners? You'd be destroyed - bring it on!

Oh, and by the way, we now have more indiginous industry, more Irish businesses, more entrepeneurs in this country today than ever before. With Sinn Féin and their anti-business socialist policies, you can guarantee this would be thrown away quicker than you could say "Fidel Castro".

BuffyBot

Straight away I presuming that you haven't been caught on the "wrong" side of our famous celtic tiger.

Being on the "wrong side of our famous celtic tiger" certainly doesn't automatically mean someone would have any automatic interest in supporting Sinn Fein and/or it's policies, no more than any party.

Mighty_Mouse

Yes those crazy Shinners:

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/03/24/story786158154.asp

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2002/01/30/story22135.asp

http://www.unicef.org/pon96/ingap.htm

http://www.cori.ie/justice/budget/2004/prebud/page_5.htm

http://econserv2.bess.tcd.ie/malawles/Newspaperincomeinequality.pdf

http://www.lrc.ie/annualreports/2001/2001-Report-2.pdf

http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2001/08/21/story303800.asp

The above is the quickest of quickest googles to give you a taste.(no more time to waste talking to "Ulster Says No" types!! I think I might of mentioned before Reefbreak that your too quick to go for the man and forget about the ball!

Being on the "wrong side of our famous celtic tiger" certainly doesn't automatically mean someone would have any automatic interest in supporting Sinn Fein and/or it's policies, no more than any party.

True.IMO I dont see the growing population of poor people and the struggling middle class (Uni fees, reduced social services etc ) thanking the government for their daily struggle (which will continue to get worse) by voting for them.
Maby when were all working two jobs, spending our lives paying for education and healthcare we will be happy like those Americans!!!

Cork

Does SF believe in nationalisation of the banks?

I think, if SF ever had any hand on policy of this country - we'd loose foriegn direct investment.

What are SFs taxation policies?

Do they even have economic and taxation policies?

Villain

Read here:http://www.sinnfein.ie/policies/document/146/7
and here:http://www.sinnfein.ie/policies/document/146/8

Cork

A joint Roads and Public Transport Authority

This has come along way since IRA bombings of the Dublin to Belfast rail line.

But irish1, what are SFs idea of an "An equitable taxation policy"?

Where is the beef?

What rates is it purposing. The links that you posted up don't seem very specific or detailed.

Villain

Have a look here then:
http://www.sinnfein.ie/policies/document/178

mike65

I see nothing there about rates...but some info here-
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2002/01/27/story313281.asp

Mike.

Cork

No, I can't find any rates either. It seems to very very short on specifics and very aspirational.

Villain

Originally posted by Cork
No, I can't find any rates either. It seems to very very short on specifics and very aspirational.

I'm sure I saw some rates there, I'l have a look later

Cork

Would SF keep the current tax rate at 20%?

Does it favour property tax?

Villain

Originally posted by Cork
Would SF keep the current tax rate at 20%?

The purpose of the review should be to seek to establish a fairer and more equitable tax system. During this review period, Sinn Féin believes that income and Corporation Tax rates should remain unchanged, with the exception that those on the minimum wage should be taken out of the tax net.

Taken from SinnFein.ie website

BuffyBot

The purpose of the review should be to seek to establish a fairer and more equitable tax system. During this review period...

Ah...a review period. A bit vague to say the least. What happens after the "review period"?

bonkey

Generall, after a review period, you use the review to see what is the best course to take.

Making predictions of what you will do after you do the review is counter-intuitive.

jc

BuffyBot

Making predictions of what you will do after you do the review is counter-intuitive.

Yes, but some sort of plan/framework/idea/clue would be nice, don't you think?

I'd expect a policy to have a bit more meat to it. Perhaps it has but that little snippet certainly wouldn't inspire me with much confidence.