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BT is scrapping its broadband pre-registration

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  • 27-04-2004 5:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭


    From TheRegister...


    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/27/bt_broadband_exchange/

    BT is scrapping its broadband pre-registration scheme after realising at last that there is sufficient interest in broadband after all.

    The move is set to make DSL broadband available to 99.6 per cent of UK homes and businesses by summer 2005, bringing the UK "significantly closer to universal availability".

    The BT pre-registration scheme was launched in July 2002 and was designed to map demand for broadband in areas not blessed with high-speed Net access. BT's position was that it was prepared to invest in the technology - as long as people were prepared to use it.

    Since then, the scheme has generated more than 880,000 registrations and led to the upgrade of more than 2,000 exchanges, increasing availability from 66 per cent in 2002 to around 85 per cent today.

    Now that the broadband registration scheme is being shelved, those exchanges that have passed their trigger levels - or are within 10 per cent of their thresholds - will be lined up an upgrade. Details of when other exchanges can expect to get broadband are due to be announced by the end of June.

    BT's chief broadband officer, Alison Ritchie, said: "The broadband registration scheme has been a powerful tool for us to match investment to demand and its fantastic success, with the support of local campaigners, has set the way for other countries to follow.

    "Now, as we move into more and more rural areas and we have a clearer picture of growing demand, there are real benefits to be gained through a planned roll out. This means we can deliver broadband to far more people in a shorter timeframe."

    Today's announcement is set to deliver broadband to every exchange in the UK except for the very smallest, which account for fewer than 100,000 premises, according to BT. The telco said it would continue to find other ways of delivering broadband to these exchanges. ®


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭viking


    Unlike the UK where the pre-registration scheme has proved immensely successfully, Ireland will never see an exchange upgraded as a direct result of registrations received to eircom's dsltriggers website due to their current hilarious trigger levels for exchanges in towns of less than 1500 peeps.

    And do you know what...? Thats just the way they likes it...

    Gotta love those pathetic PR stunts.

    Yours in a rotten humour,

    viking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Urban Weigl


    Indeed. One of the towns I looked at, and compared to the latest census (2002), would currently require a take up rate of nearly 600% -- just an example. All of the towns I looked at that are in my county required takup rates well above 100%.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Mr_Man


    The recent Eircom ad's proclaiming how they have brought Ireland into the digital age through the rollout of broadband are an example of the contempt the company holds its customers in. The BB triggers are another !

    Eircom is not interested in rolling out BB to any exchange unless it can be guaranteed to make a quick buck from it. They have to pay off the banks and shareholders, so there is feck all left to maintain the network never mind investing in new equipment.

    M.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭Da Man


    Eircom are muppets for sure, but can they really be blamed for lack of people in certain areas of the country? It seems reasonable to set the trigger at a level where they will make money regardless of the number of people connected to the exchange.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    I was told by Engineer working for Eircom that the Trigger levels are mostly deliberately set a level belived too high by management. It's not about money when you set trigger levels that you konw should never be reached.

    Also you need an Eircom account code to register. Which denies those not useing Eircom fixed lines. I wasn't a month ago, but I did have a "real" phone line socket that actually worked.


    This suggests that for many "trigger exchanges" they have no intention of rollout of BB at all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Urban Weigl


    Originally posted by Da Man
    Eircom are muppets for sure, but can they really be blamed for lack of people in certain areas of the country? It seems reasonable to set the trigger at a level where they will make money regardless of the number of people connected to the exchange.

    If that were the case, fine, I would not have a problem with it. However, not only are the trigger levels set at ridiculous levels, they are also set way beyond a profitable service. There is no excuse for not upgrading exchanges that already have fibre installed in this day and age. 20 customers pay for the DSLAM and upgrade within months, 21 customers already turn a profit.

    Why set trigger levels at hundreds? It just makes no sense. Actually it does make sense, if you assume the following statement to be true: Eircom are simply using the 'trigger level' program as a PR stunt, and have no actual plans currently to roll out broadband.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭SkepticOne


    This was done a few of months ago so the trigger levels could have changed. It illustrates the cynicism of Eircom in setting these up.
    Town	County	Eircom Trigger	CSO 2002 Households	
    Abbeyleix	Co Laois	376	467	124.20%
    Adare	Co Limerick	398	363	91.21%
    Aherla	Co Cork	360		
    Ardara	Co Donegal	264	216	81.82%
    Ashford	Co Wicklow	384	412	107.29%
    Askeaton	Co Limerick	312	291	93.27%
    Aughrim	Co Wicklow	247	281	113.77%
    Ballinagh	Co Cavan	379	171	45.12%
    Ballinamore	Co Leitrim	396	282	71.21%
    Ballineen	Co Cork	343	197	57.43%
    Ballinspittle	Co Cork	237		
    Ballivor	Co Meath	243	244	100.41%
    Ballybay	Co Monaghan	421	199	47.27%
    Ballyboughal	Co Dublin	250	86	34.40%
    Ballyhaunis	Co Mayo	470	475	101.06%
    Ballyjamesduff	Co Cavan	411	312	75.91%
    Ballymahon	Co Longford	311	307	98.71%
    Ballymore Eustace 	Co Kildare	318	256	80.50%
    Ballymote	Co Leitrim	404	349	86.39%
    Balrath	Co Westmeath	241		
    Baltinglass	Co Wicklow	346	407	117.63%
    Barna	Galway	499		
    Belturbet	Co Cavan	379	476	125.59%
    Bennettsbridge	Co Kilkenny	234	241	102.99%
    Bliary	Co Westmeath			
    Borris	Co Carlow			
    Borrisoleigh	Co Tipperary	254	221	87.01%
    Bridgend	Co Donegal	238	98	41.18%
    Brittas	Co Dublin	336	50	14.88%
    Bunclody	Co Wexford	398	373	93.72%
    Buttevant	Co Cork	337	381	113.06%
    Cahirciveen	Co Kerry	442	499	112.90%
    Callan	Co Kilkenny	357	453	126.89%
    Carlingford	Co Louth	292	221	75.68%
    Carnew	Co Wicklow	264	285	107.95%
    Carrignavar	Co Cork	260		
    Carrigtwohill	Co Cork	499	467	93.59%
    Castlebellinghan	Co Louth	411	251	61.07%
    Castlecomer	Co Kilkenny	396	499	126.01%
    Castleconnell	Co Limerick	435	424	97.47%
    Castledermot	Co Kildare	237	250	105.49%
    Castlefin	Co Donegal	245	254	103.67%
    Castlegarran	Sligo	330		
    Castlelyons	Co Cork	352	64	18.18%
    Castlemartyr	Co Cork	295	213	72.20%
    Castlepollard	Co Westmeath	257	289	112.45%
    Charlestown	Co Mayo	400	254	63.50%
    Claregalway	Co Galway	421	201	47.74%
    Clarina	Co Limerick	234		
    Cleariestown	Co Wexford	246		
    Cloyne	Co Cork	264	268	101.52%
    Coachford	Co Cork	299	135	45.15%
    Collon	Co Louth	229	149	65.07%
    Collooney	Co Sligo	478	229	47.91%
    Cong	Co Mayo	246	48	19.51%
    Crookstown	Co Cork	274	97	35.40%
    Crosshaven	Co Cork	499	487	97.60%
    Crossmolina	Co Mayo	351	341	97.15%
    Curragh Camp	Co Kildare	413		
    Doneralie	Co Cork	241	286	118.67%
    Drimoleague	Co Cork			
    Dromahair	Co Leitrim	292	130	44.52%
    Drumlish	Co Longford	255	90	35.29%
    Drumshanbo	Co Leitrim	287	221	77.00%
    Dunleer	Co Louth	481	348	72.35%
    Edgeworthstown	Co Roscommon	265		
    Elphin	Co Sligo	246	203	82.52%
    Emyvale	Co Monaghan	398	198	49.75%
    Ennistymon	Co Clare	394	335	85.03%
    Falcarragh	Co Donegal	499	307	61.52%
    Farranfore	Co Kerry	414		
    Ferbane	Co Offaly	243	378	155.56%
    Ferns	Co Wexford	288	315	109.38%
    Fethard	Co Wexford	396	488	123.23%
    Foxford	Co Mayo	397	355	89.42%
    Garristown	Co Dublin	314	87	27.71%
    Glassan	Co Westmeath	279	65	23.30%
    Glenamaddy	Co Mayo	268	151	56.34%
    Glenties	Co Donegal	246	305	123.98%
    Graiguenamanagh	Co Kilkenny	309	403	130.42%
    Granard	Co Longford	383	354	92.43%
    Headford	Co Galway	367	265	72.21%
    Inniscrone	Co Sligo	393	218	55.47%
    Innishannon	Co Cork	428	205	47.90%
    Inverin	Co Galway	250		
    Johnstown	Co Kilkenny	292	163	55.82%
    Kilala	Co Sligo	284	221	77.82%
    Kilaloe	Co Clare	499	398	79.76%
    Kilcolgan	Co Galway	298		
    Kildorrery	Co Cork	296	83	28.04%
    Kilkelly	Co Mayo	249	88	35.34%
    Killavullen	Co Cork	286	74	25.87%
    Killenaule	Co Tipperary	277	240	86.64%
    Killeshandra	Co Cavan	277	151	54.51%
    Killucan	Co Westmeath	326	180	55.21%
    Killybegs 	Co Donegal	483	427	88.41%
    Kilmacow	Co Waterford	242	178	73.55%
    Kilmacthomas	Co Waterford	299	228	76.25%
    Kilmeaden	Co Waterford	257		
    Kingscourt	Co Cavan	491	442	90.02%
    Kinnegad	Co Westmeath	304	436	143.42%
    Knock	Co Mayo	326	210	64.42%
    Knockboy	Co Waterford	499		
    Lahinch	Co Clare	362	229	63.26%
    Leap	Co Cork	340	62	18.24%
    Lifford	Co Donegal	402	423	105.22%
    Lismore	Co Waterford	298	323	108.39%
    Manorhamilton	Co Leitrim	381	344	90.29%
    Milford	Co Donegal	234	258	110.26%
    Millstreet	Co Cork	415	472	113.73%
    Mohill	Co Leitrim	414	276	66.67%
    Mooncoin	Co Kilkenny	283	259	91.52%
    Mountbellew	Co Galway	256	193	75.39%
    Mountrath	Co Laois	377	462	122.55%
    Moville	Co Donegal	340	505	148.53%
    Moycullen	Co Galway	334	284	85.03%
    Newmarket on Fergus	Co Clare	411	495	120.44%
    Newport	Co Mayo	273	311	113.92%
    Oldcastle	Co Meath	429	323	75.29%
    Oughterard	Co Galway	359	434	120.89%
    Oylgate	Co Wexford	230	83	36.09%
    Pallaskenry	Co Limerick	258	180	69.77%
    Passage East	Co Waterford	238	221	92.86%
    Patrickswell	Co Limerick	362	293	80.94%
    Ramelton	Co Donegal	229	362	158.08%
    Raphoe	Co Donegal	304	337	110.86%
    Rathdowney	Co Laois	353	403	114.16%
    Rathdrum	Co Wicklow	372	411	110.48%
    Rathkeale	Co Limerick	371	474	127.76%
    Ravensdale	Co Louth	406		
    Ringaskiddy	Co Cork	409	136	33.25%
    Riverstown	Co Sligo	282	88	31.21%
    Rochfordbridge	Co Westmeath	257	445	173.15%
    Rooskey	Co Roscommon	263	63	23.95%
    Rosscarbery	Co Cork	312	166	53.21%
    Sixmilebridge	Co Clare	367	447	121.80%
    Slane	Co Meath	375	266	70.93%
    Spiddal	Co Galway	292	60	20.55%
    Straffan	Co Kildare	303	95	31.35%
    Strandhill	Co Sligo	303	372	122.77%
    Strokestown	Co Roscommon	327	242	74.01%
    Tamney	Co Donegal	287		
    Tara	Co Meath	362		
    Termonfeckin	Co Louth	305	168	55.08%
    Thomastown	Co Kilkenny	377	487	129.18%
    Timoleague	Co Cork	229	123	53.71%
    Tomhaggard	Co Wexford	264		
    Tubbercurry	Co Sligo	437	394	90.16%
    Virginia	Co Cavan	485	427	88.04%
    Whitegate	Co Cork	264	139	52.65%
    
    Even if Eircom had set realistic trigger levels like BT in the UK, it still would not have made any difference in the overall number of exchanges upgraded. In reality, a budget for upgrading exchanges is allocated in advance. A certain number of exchanges is chosen. By setting up trigger levels the telco is at most aided in the order in which the exchanges are upgraded.

    BT have now abandoned trigger levels. This to me is evidence that they never really needed them in the first place. The real purpose of them was to encourage local groups to act as unpaid pimps on behalf of BT. In this way the one thing BT want to avoid, competition, is discouraged since by dangling the trigger level in front of them, the local groups are led to believe that BT are the only realistic company that can bring broadband to their area.

    In a way, Eircom have done Ireland a favour. Their total cynicism in the matter has meant that we no longer look to them exclusively to bring broadband to Ireland although this was not their intention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Even at horribly optimisic 1/3rd = 33% only a few would be reached

    At 20% none

    A realistic level, though still high is 10% .. 15%


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