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Is dublin a kip??

  • 06-05-2004 5:05pm
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I read over the weekend that 80% of peole are afraid to walk through dublin city at night for fear of being mugged. I couldnt believe this becasue i travel through town alot at night on my home and i have never had any problems.

    It was said that guys stand around waiting for you to look at then then imediately try start a fight.

    Just wondering what you guys think people from th country too waht did you think when you came to dublin?? I dont get what all the fuss is about its the same wherever you go.

    Do you fear for your life when in Dublin at night? 181 votes

    Yeah, im constantly looking around
    0% 0 votes
    not really only now and again
    50% 91 votes
    no not all dubin is a peacefull spot
    49% 90 votes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭hedgetrimmer


    I was born and bred in Dublin (malahide) and live just off the city centre now. I regard myself as a respectable person, *never* go out looking for hassle. I have been attacked 3 times in Dublin, and I am always *wary* walking down the streets..more noticable when I came to Belgium and *relaxed*.

    I can't wait to get a place down the country and leave Dublin behind permanently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    same as everywhere really, theres good and bad bits.

    after living away for a year i dont like it. but thankfully im not too close to the city (balbriggan).

    i dont think its the worst though.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    well i suppose i live in Dalkey so maybe i dont know everything that goes on but whenever im in town and out at the weekend i dont have any problems.
    Other cities would be alot nicer and cleaner than dubli but they wouldnt really be considered safer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,269 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I wouldn't go so far to say I fear for my life if I'm walking through town at night but I'm certainly a lot more wary than when walking through Galway (my hometown) at night. When I first moved up, yeah, I was paranoid to the point that if myself and my ex were walking through town at night (even during the early evening at times) I'd have one hand holding hers and the other had my keys bunched between my fingers ready to let fly...

    It's not the worst place in the world, but it's only place I've ever lived for a long period of time where I'd worry about my safety if I decided to walk home alone at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    When I used to work nights I used have to walk from the Quays (where one bus would let me off) to Middle Abbey Street for another bus. I always felt I had to look over my shoulder.

    I live in London at the moment, I feel much more comfortable walking around London at night than I would Dublin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    When i lived there it wasn't all that safe during the day either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭alienhead


    parts of city centre i would be a bit wary, i'd say it's alot scarier if your a girl on your own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    have never had any trouble at all.
    *touches wood* (in a non sexual way)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭krattapopov


    ive never had any problems either

    touch wood and eh umm yeah in a non sexual manner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    My option isent there.

    I belive dublin isent safe at night but i do want someone (1 person, mabe 2, 3 at MOST) to try and mug me some fri or sat on my WAY to the pub NOT after the pub.

    I just dont understand why they dont install camras EVERYWHERE so whenever a crime happens they know who did it. Then they can be SEVERLEY punished


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭IDM


    Grew up in Washington DC & Paris, so they're obviously the two I'll be comparing Dublin to.

    What is it about Dublin that makes those of you who feel it's unsafe, feel that way ?

    -Knackers ? Heroin addicts ? Alcoholics ?
    -Although I actually feel as safe in Dublin as I would in either of my hometowns, I'd say the lack of pedestrian traffic in certain areas, late at night is probably a big reason why people feel unsafe.

    There are usually plenty of people on DC streets no matter what time of the night, although the bums can be kind of worrying.

    Paris can be scary because of the racaille (knacker equivalent) but again, pretty safe otherwise.

    No one has really said what it is about Dublin that makes them feel it's unsafe? So can people start posting their reasons ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    I just hate dublin, never been attacked or anything like that.. but it smells, it's crowded and.. it's a kip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭IDM


    Those of you that hate Dublin/think it's a kip ...
    Post the name of the city you'd rather live in !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Souless


    heh dublin is a kip alrite but its the best kip in ireland ;) its got all the best shops and pubs and cinemas in it. I mean it is scaring leaving town at night. They should make more Gardai walk the beat at night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Is Dublin a kip ??..

    Yes. . Why that simple 'Yes' is not an optional answer to the poll question, is beyond me :confused: .

    IDM,

    For a start, I would rather live in Derry City :D I will leave you to choose the other 500 or so, as I am too lazy to list them :p .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭IDM


    Originally posted by Souless
    They should make more Gardai walk the beat at night.

    Yeah, that never hurts. Always tons of patrolling officers in DC at night. Makes you feel safe.

    My sister came back late one night from the IFSC to where we live just above Trinity, & she said she saw only one person the whole time.

    Can understand how that could cause someone to worry, especially a girl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭dictatorcat


    Dublin's fine, i've walked home pissed at all hours and have never had much trouble (i too to touch wood, but only in a vaguely sexual manner), in fact the only time i ever had trouble with little scumbags was during the day, and even then they just fcuked off when they knew they couldn't rile me. It's the same as any urban area, there's streets you don't walk down at night, and if you do you should know better. That said tourists should be told where it is safe to walk at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭blondie83


    Yeah I think Dublins fine. I've lived here all my life though, so maybe i'm just used to it. I've walked home on my own from town a couple of times (I know its stupid, but there were no taxis, and my friends were all going to somewhere else). I wouldn't be scared walking around the city centre in the early hours of the morning, cos there's so many ppl around, and prob also cos I've never had any trouble there. :ninja:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Dun


    Originally posted by Paddy20
    Is Dublin a kip ??..

    For a start, I would rather live in Derry City.
    Do you never read the Derry Journal? Wouldn't want to live in Derry at all. It's grand to be in during the day, but I wouldn't fancy walking in the centre at night.

    That plus all the Majellas and their male equivalents do my head in. Mind you as many of them come down to Buncrana that I almost feel like I'm in Derry when I go there.

    [Edit] Though as bad as it is, I'd rather live there than Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    It's a baby city that still thinks it's a rival for London or New York. I think it tries hard to be like the cool, bigger boys, which it just can't do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭StephenInsane


    No, i don't feel threatend or unsafe when walking alone. But when i walk past someone when I'm alone at night, I often get the impression that they feel threatend by me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    Yep, Dublin is a kip!

    As for the other questions, I've never had any trouble in the city centre, day or night, and I've never feared for my life (I think that's maybe a bit strong) but I would be wary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    What the hell is all this hype about Dublin being unsafe at night?

    I have walked home numerous times from the city centre and even walked through dodgy areas ( well it was a shortcut!) and have never been hassled.

    From my experience of living on the continent...that is a lot mory scary. Walking home
    with on-one else around for miles....except some unsavouries lurking in doorways
    and stepping out just as you approach...

    At least in City Centre dublin at 4am...there is always a Spar shop (for refuge!) open if you did get hassled.


    P.S. at least the average knacker indigenous to the streets of Dublin at 4pm is too
    drunk/stoned to launch an attack. (imo)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭wiped


    Dublin born and bred ... never felt unsafe in this town and as for the knacker element ... news flash ... they're everywhere ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Superman


    yeah there are alot of idiots in dublin,who want to wreck you buzz, but if you just do smart stuff and not walk on peirs at 3am you'll be grand. Most things in dublin are ok.

    However, I don't like:
    • Rubbish on the streets, EVERYWHERE
    • Piss everywhere at night
    • The bent selection of clubs etc.
    • Serious lack of non-alcoholic activities


    Interestilngly, at night woman usually feel more afraid on the streets, but statistcally man are more likely to get into a fight. (so being cautious can be a good thing)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,968 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Its no worse then any other large town in Ireland , I hate the place but I dont feel unsafe here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭silverside


    Ah Dublin's not the worst at all - there are a few dogy areas, some junkies, some litter, but the place is looking better all the time, the Luas, O'Connell street regeneration, the place has a nice almost european feel about it at the moment. Dublin has a 'soul' thatmost other cities I've lived in don't.

    Try living in some ugly english town where Ben Sherman is the height of fashion, you are thrown out of the pubs at eleven, and thirty different types of curry is the extent of the restaurant choice, you will realise what Dublin has.

    But I reckon you get bored of any place after ten years or so - if you want a nice change try Madrid, Stockholm, or Melbourne.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Christ, it's the biggest kip in the world.
    Yes, bit of an over-statement, but it gets the point across well enough.

    I generally head to dublin quite a lot, probably about once a month, if not more often. And while I've often felt 'unsafe' and even been in the odd fight, I've generally come up winning, so that's certainly not why I think it's such a kip.

    The fact is, it's a filthy ****ing joke of a city!

    Having lived in London for the a short time, it's amazing to see how ****ing backwards Dublin really is. Compared to other european cities I've been in, even Valencia and Madrid, it's just incredibly filthy! Public transport is beyond a joke, but while that goes for most of Ireland as a hole, Dublin's public transport is ridiculously congested.

    It's beyond me why there aren't more Gardai patrolling at night. Just about every other city I've been in had plenty of guards pacing about city centres. It just seems like common ****ing sense, especially in a kip as big as Dublin.

    But it's a backwards, dirty little city that has some mad delusions of gandeur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭garthv


    I work in a pub in the city centre.
    Ive been workin there for the past 10 months 5 nigths a week and every night i work i walk 15 minutes to my bus stop.In all that time i have never had a bad experience
    People that slag dublin either dont live there or just dont know when trouble is about and how to avoid it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    I think Dublin needs to seriously get its act together. There's a political element in Ireland who firmly believe that this "Ireland of the welcomes" crap excuses a lot of really inexcusable elements of the city. I've lived in a few cities, Dublin included, for long periods of time and I really think the place is a shambles.

    The one place that strikes me as "where Dublin wants to be when it grows up" is Newcastle Upon Tyne. Newcastle has a pedestrianised city centre, all cobble-lock paving with bus lanes because buses and taxis are the only transport permitted in the dead centre of the city. It also has a "metro" line which is basically the same idea as Luas. The Metro runs in a loop around and through the city, in to the posher residential suburbs and out along the bay as well. There's a metro link out to the airport too. It's generally quite clean and has a pretty amazing nightlife because the centre of the town is policed and managed properly at night - and the tradidition in Newcastle, when "oot on the toon", is to never have two drinks in one establishment so the place is always full of people running about from one bar to the next (and normally too preoccupied with their next drink to start a fight). Closing times are staggered as well between pubs, late bars, clubs, private clubs etc so your night can finish anywhere between 11pm and 5am.

    The following are the reasons I think Dublin qualifies for the grand title of "European city of kip":
    1. Dirty, dirty, dirty. Christina Aguilera may have been inspired by Dublin. From the gum on the pavements (LOOK at the street next time you're walking around - it looks like we have polkadot paving) to the endless streams of litter, the Liffey where shopping trolleys go to die, the smog from overloaded streets that have TOO much traffic on them and a general inability of half the population to use a litterbin. You know, thanks to the work of certain terrorist organisations who shall remain nameless in recent decades, it's often difficult to find a bin in London, especially at a train station, and STILL it's cleaner than Dublin is.
    2. In Dublin's fair city... or not. Dublin is not a pretty looking city. That may sound like crap, but the main street of our capital is thronged with fast food takeaways, 7-11 stores, discount outlets with dramatic advertising. The Anna Livia used to be like one enormous private bin for McDonalds. In recent years Ireland became infamous for the "brown envelope planning process" where you get to do what you like if you pay "de man" enough lolly in unmarked bills, and I think it shows in enormous sections of the city. On top of that, WHY DO WE LAY COBBLE LOCK PAVING, THEN DIG IT UP SIX WEEKS LATER AND FILL IN THE HOLE WITH TARMAC/CONCRETE?
    3. Public undesirable transport.I used to move EVERYWHERE in Dublin by bus or by train. For starters, you know the way the bus timetable shows the time the bus was due to leave it's first stop? Believe it or not, not every city in the world does that. Some even show you the time the bus is supposed to get to the stop you're at. The other thing is I have never seen anything like the fag-smoking, takeaway food eating, joint-rolling antics you see on Dublin bus. The bus drivers are terrified for their lives and I have seen more people take a piss upstairs on a bus in Dublin than I would have thought possible. That and the roadworks and traffic congestion means it now takes 2.5 hours to do the journey that took one hour about a year before I left Dublin. I'd love to recommend jumping on the Dart instead, but it's about the same deal, only more crowded at rush hour (at least the bus has a driver to say "here mate this isn't Columbia, stop trying to get to work by squeezing in the 4-inch space just inside the door and throwing your briefcase on the roof". And the last thing about Dublin bus: DRIVERS! There are TWO doors on a bus for a VERY special reason - open the front ones for people to get on and the middle ones for people to get off. You'd be astounded what that does for congestion!

    Right, I've covered the endless filth, the crap transport, the general ugliness of the place... I can't be bothered going into more detail lest this become more "War n Peace" and less "a post". I'll just list things without examples:
    1. Racism. Dublin has an enormous atmosphere of racial tension because of the enromous influx of non-nationals, and it's not a nice atmosphere to be in.
    2. Unblieveable expense of everything from a sandwich and a packet of crisps to a taxi fare.
    3. Skangers. Everywhere. As a disproportionately high percentage of the population.
    4. Construction. Everywhere. That always goes over budget and past its completion deadline.
    5. Misdirected public spending because of a government who don't listen to public opinion. (If we didn't have one spike in Dublin perhaps we could have spent something on the heroin problem and have no spikes in Dublin at all!)

    The biggest problem I perceive in Dublin is lethargy. It may come as a shock, but

    YOU DON'T GET THE SAME THING EVERYWHERE YOU GO

    Dublin. Is. A. Kip.

    And it's just not "fine" to take this utterly farcical "Paddy off de boat" mentality and joke about it when things aren't done properly. The port tunnel's the wrong size, oh "dey'll just have te build smaller lorries!" It's a city surrounded by two-lane motorways with impressively wide central reserves ("Oh! Paddy I wonder who we'll give the contract to to widen dis road in foive years?")

    And everybody bitches about the country, the price of everything, and the politicians, all of the time. "How badly this country is being run" is generally not one of the top-ten topics of pub conversation in other major cities.

    There are far more things that make Dublin a kip than your chances of a mugging on your way home being the highlight of your night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 648 ✭✭✭strawberry


    I think Dublin is a lovely city :) The only places I'd know well enough to compare it to are Paris and Hong Kong, and in terms of where I would prefer to live I'd pick Dublin anyday.

    Perhaps I don't go the same places as everyone else, but I don't think Dublin is that dirty - the plastic bag tax has done wonders, and the smoking ban is fantastic.

    Dublin is hardly what I'd call ugly. The centre of town has some beautiful buildings, a lot of the old georgian houses have been done up, and they're finally starting to plant trees in the right places (you'd be amazed at the difference a tree can make) :D Sure there are fast food restaurants everywhere etc etc, but they exist in every city, they even have a McDo on the Champs Elysee. The adveritisng in our discount stores isn't that bad either based on a combination of factors such as the fact that we don't really have many sales cos everything's so damn expensive. There are council estates which look unpleasant, but that applies to almost any city (try comparing with the HLMs in Paris). What counts as a high rise flat in Dublin is like a playground compared to some places in other cities.

    Irish people may seem to bitch about everything, but that may just because we seem to care more about the way things are run than in other cities. In Hong Kong I know for a fact that most people wouldn't be able to name their local councillor and they don't complain on the basis that they feel that there's nothing that can be done to fix their problems. Sure we have issues with planning, but at least we know we have these issues and can act towards fixing them.

    Again, maybe due to my charmed existence, but as someone who is half-chinese, I'd be hard pushed to remember the last time I had a racist remark directed at me. There as that skanger in school who called me a ****** that one time, but that was just weird....

    If you're careful, it's unlikely you'll get mugged or beaten up. There are bad people everywhere, you can't just get completely pissed and then compain that someone took your money.

    And finally, the best thing about Dublin, especially when you're not there, is the fact that Irish people aren't hung up about their country like everywhere else where they insist that things are fine and perfect, and that their country is better than everyone elses. So compain away. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    What majd said basicly.

    Well written :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    People that slag dublin either dont live there or just dont know when trouble is about and how to avoid it

    No, of course we've don't live there, anyone who's realised how crap Dublin can be got out as soon as they did :rolleyes:

    Majd's post said it all really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    I've been living in Dublin City Centre for about 8 years.

    Yeah, there are scumbags everywhere, the place is covered in litter, and it's a rip off hole, but the architecture is quite nice, the people reasonably friendly and the council do try hard to have cultural events.

    Temple Bar and the Georges Street/Grafton Street areas are really nice.

    O'Connell Street and Henry Street have improved dramatically.

    The suburbs vary a lot, but that is to be expected in any city.

    ...

    So, no, I don't think it's a kip.

    Also, I've only had hassle twice on the streets, and on both occasions I have been (reasonably enough) to blame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Mighty_Mouse


    Lived there for a little bit and hated every minute of it. Its a dangerous smelly kip.
    Seriously dirty hole that badly needs cleaned.

    Plus the blokes are EITHER Brown Thomas-like-girly-blokes who would be quicker to talk about moistureiser than sport OR dangerous scumbags who intimidate you for money etc ...

    The women are the same. Either knackerish slappers or posh stuck up <beep>!

    Dublin Bus is an intimidating experience day or night and theres absolutely no feckin Gardai around. Also you get hassled for money about 15 times per day. Its also a feckin Rat Race to live there. You get up in the morning at 7 and dont get home til 7.

    Also theres a complete rip-off culture about the place. Taxis, food, drink, niteclubs are all overpriced. Oh yes and the bouncers are even more wankerish than anywhere else in the country (world record!)

    If you go out for a nite its either €5 per pint in a ****hole like Cafe en Seine, Spy, Rynards to stand and pose with a bunch of fake orange ****ers (who are living off credit cards but yet think there loaded) and talk about .................... nothing. (actually probably about clothes Men and women alike)

    People dont seem at ease and theres no sense of craic. Yes and theres definitely no chance of walking in for a pint in the day and striking up a conversation with a stranger.

    I live in Galway and wouldn't move to Dublin for any money. Its the complete opposite of the above. There are "trendy" bars plus traditional looking places with great athmosphere to accomodate all types. And the majority of the blokes dont look orange, wearing eyeliner.

    Rant over.

    Ps
    I had a horrible experience of Dublin but maby I'm wrong. I would consider living there If i was earning €60,000 per year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    I don't know why anyone is giving out about the bums in dublin, try going to san francisco and then come back and talk to me about bums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    iv been in dub many a time think its a decent city with all the normal problems of a modern capital city magnified by 40 or so years of less than stellar nation wide economic performance.....which has only changed recently give it time lads no douth Dublin will get better just needs to be run right and have money plowed into it money we now have to wast.....Oh and time

    On the plus side i live in cork with is quite nice tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    This thread is full of moaning eejits. I've had a few experiences in Dublin, and a few in London. Also New York. Every large city is the same, there's rough areas and nice areas. If you're stupid enough to go sauntering through a dodgy area in ANY city late at night with a rake of pints on you... then good luck.

    London late at night??? Safe? My arsé. Council estates, flats, plenty of them, I lived in a block - some junkie ****er tried to break into our flat - my brother had to chase him away with a hammer... like I said - every city's the same.

    Do y'all think the streets of Galway, London, Paris et al are made of cotton and everybody loves everyone else? Cop on.

    I though I was going to be shot in New York when I accidentally walked into a bad neighbourhood. Also, much like Dublin, the streets of New York are a big time kip.... cracked pavements galore.

    London city - rubbish bags all over the shop, píss all over the streets, plus the English can't handle their beer so well as us drunkards, so they get síck an awful lot. The sick on our streets is actually from English stag and hen nights.

    Dublin is getting better I reckon... I think alot of people who have problems with skangers must be very young, cos anyone over the age of 18 generally knows how to handle them these days.

    Fair enough - we're expensive, so is Paris (according to a friend who lived there) and London ain't bargain city.

    There's alot of things wrong with Dublin, but I find there's alot of great things also. Same as EVERY city.

    Personally, if I wasn't tied down here, I'd move to New York, not because I dis-like Dublin, I just like the buzz in New York.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭Mac daddy


    Dublin is not that bad, just need to know what to look out for.
    I was down in wexford not so long ago, jezus that place was worse.
    As soon as they here your accent they think your there to Rob the woman-ugly fat birds.
    Every town/city has there knackers skangers/charlo's in it. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,269 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Originally posted by Dr. Loon
    I think alot of people who have problems with skangers must be very young, cos anyone over the age of 18 generally knows how to handle them these days.
    Yes I know how to handle them. unfortunately the UN call it genocide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Originally posted by Sleepy
    Yes I know how to handle them. unfortunately the UN call it genocide.

    I call it not looking like a scared lost little puppy, and telling them to fúck off. It's like showing a dog fear - the dog won't respect you. Don't show a skanger fear. Sometimes there isn't even a requirement to speak, they'll know to get away from you just by the look of utter contempt in your eyes. Works a charm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,269 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Works fine one on one. When you're outnumbered, you're outnumbered it doesn#'t matter what look you've got on your face.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭AngelofFire


    i doubt the so called 80% surveyed reflects the views of the entire population. as a matter of fact i think its way off. certain groups may have been selected for this survey such as elderly people- i dont mean any disrespect btw.the reason why i dont like that statistic is the fact that the government may use this statistic as an excuse to strengthen the nanny state. as well as not being able to smoke in pubs soon we wont be even able to drink, the way this government is going


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭Paddy20


    Hey Loony,

    Cop yourself on, before some young person believes your claptrap. You really sound as though you are living in your own fantasyland where real people 'do not' get attacked, stabbed, kicked too death etc, as they do in Dublin. Which is the subject of this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by Dr. Loon
    I call it not looking like a scared lost little puppy, and telling them to fúck off. It's like showing a dog fear - the dog won't respect you. Don't show a skanger fear. Sometimes there isn't even a requirement to speak, they'll know to get away from you just by the look of utter contempt in your eyes. Works a charm.

    This is true.

    A nice little incident happened to me on the way to a friend's house the other week when two skangers came up acting tough, called me a ****, and one of them said something along the lines of "I'll Bust Yer Chops!" I just looked him straight in the face, and shouted at him to "Go on! I ****ing DARE you!" and turned up my cheek as if to give him a nice big target.

    T'was ****ing comical to see, because neither him nor his mate would even look me in the eye. They were ****ing scared ****less, and I just walked on after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    I completely agree with Minesajackdaniels on this one. Brilliantly written post there, Majd.

    I was happy to get away from living in Dublin myself and am now thoroughly enjoying life in the slow lane here in Ardee.

    Dublin. Is. A. Kip!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Atomic


    I don't know why anyone is giving out about the bums in dublin, try going to san francisco and then come back and talk to me about bums.


    Agree with you about San Francisco but I never felt threathened in San Fran. They tend to ask you if you've any money but if you say No then there is no follow up. In Dublin they'd be likely to keep at you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    Back to topic for a mo, Dublin isn't a kip. Try Belfast, or many UK cities, and you'll find its unkiplike. Obviously there are places you shouldn't go at night. The only time I've been attacked in Dublin was when walking down by St. Pats with 4 friends at 2am while drunk. Fortunately our attackers weren't exactly sober either, so after a quick engagement we just legged it and they weren't able to keep up. Fecking skangers...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels

    The one place that strikes me as "where Dublin wants to be when it grows up" is Newcastle Upon Tyne. Newcastle has a pedestrianised city centre, all cobble-lock paving with bus lanes because buses and taxis are the only transport permitted in the dead centre of the city. It also has a "metro" line which is basically the same idea as Luas. The Metro runs in a loop around and through the city, in to the posher residential suburbs and out along the bay as well. There's a metro link out to the airport too. It's generally quite clean and has a pretty amazing nightlife because the centre of the town is policed and managed properly at night - and the tradidition in Newcastle, when "oot on the toon", is to never have two drinks in one establishment so the place is always full of people running about from one bar to the next (and normally too preoccupied with their next drink to start a fight). Closing times are staggered as well between pubs, late bars, clubs, private clubs etc so your night can finish anywhere between 11pm and 5am.

    Agreed i was working in newcastle for the summer and it was a great place. living 5 minutes walk from the city centre and out to longbenton for work. tis a lovely city with a great nightlife and the area around the quays and the millenium bridge is also cool. with regards to police though i always thought there was less police around at night or at any time then there was in dublin. i very rarely saw any out at night however i took this as more of a sign that they weren't needed as opposed to the fact that they couldn't be there.

    Dublin. i lived here all my life within walking distance of the city centre. when i was quite young about 14-15 i was mugged with a syringe for the whole 3 pounds 50 i had in my wallet. that was on the middle abbey street in broad daylight when it when every bus under the sun terminated there.

    so dublin at night doesn't bother me. i'd be wary but i frequently walk home from town either up the quays are around by parnell street and ugc. the mother hits the roof but i've never had any hassle. theres places in dublin though i'd avoid at night.

    so its not town that bothers me but more so when my younger sister can get mugged for her phone less then five minutes away from my house all the garda can say is we're building a file on the guy for the DPP. its the local knackers that bother me and the reprecussions that would be associated with "taking them on" so to speak


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    yeah i think its very true if you stand up to a skanger thats giving you grief then they will leave you aone but this is onlt the case when tthere is only one or two of them but they mostly travel in groups. its like a bloody epidemic. if you stand up to them then you are likely to get a beating.

    That can happen anywhere tho as skangers can be found in most places but im talking about the city centre only. On a night out i would prob get someone saying something to you but if you ignore them then nothing will happen. Oh yeah and i just want to say that dublin is the dirtiest city i have been in. I mean litter and stuff everywhere and since the smoking ban there are cigarettes everywhere.its horrible. In that respect i think dublin is a kip but at least o connell street i looking better these days


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